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« Reply #50 on: October 04, 2011, 02:38:53 AM »

Poppo...I set those both to 9999.....is that ok?.....
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« Reply #51 on: October 04, 2011, 09:58:07 AM »

That's fine. Maybe be a bit high because if you hit a big jackpot it will want to pay it from the hopper. But mainly we just wanted to be sure the BV was not being disabled due to a setting being too low.

So, if swapping the BV power supply does not help and if you are sure all of the wiring is good and connections are good, then perhaps it is time to run a clear. Of course you will need a set chip because the BV will not be enabled after that.
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« Reply #52 on: October 04, 2011, 05:30:19 PM »

. The only way I can get it to attempt to take bill is by pressing switch that says door is closed.

so it did try and accept a bill???   what switch are you refering too??

when you are in test #27,  no only does the bill acceptor bezel lite, but you can insert a bill, it will take it in , hold it for a few seconds, and return it. 


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« Reply #53 on: October 04, 2011, 09:39:44 PM »

Jim ....I was referring to the switch on validator door.
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« Reply #54 on: October 04, 2011, 10:09:05 PM »

Jim ....I was referring to the switch on validator door.

The question remains under what conditions did it try to take a bill? Actual use, self test? Have you tried jumpering that switch?
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« Reply #55 on: October 04, 2011, 10:44:56 PM »

I went and tried test 27 right after bezel light and bezel was lit and it would start to take bill and spit it back out. I now cant get back to that setting. I can try that switch bypass, but that was only time it would attempt to take bill. And that was by making game think door was opened and shut several times. I thank everyone for help and advice......I'd be even more lost  without it!
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« Reply #56 on: October 04, 2011, 10:50:48 PM »

I can try that switch bypass, but that was only time it would attempt to take bill. And that was by making game think door was opened and shut several times.

But was this during normal operation or while doing the self test?
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« Reply #57 on: October 05, 2011, 01:21:26 AM »

Don't be discouraged twizz!
The guys are going to ask you a lot of specific questions !
Just do your best to answer them as best you can and you'll
get to the bottom of it!
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machine is up and running like a smooth diesel engine!

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« Reply #58 on: October 05, 2011, 01:32:29 AM »

Perfect.....thanks STAYOUT......poppo that was during self test. I will go swap power supplies and see what happens.
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« Reply #59 on: October 05, 2011, 01:38:05 AM »

If the power supply does not help, it may be a good idea to back up a bit and find out why it is intermittent during self test. Maybe something to do with that switch you were having to mess with to get it to work at all???
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« Reply #60 on: October 08, 2011, 08:56:42 PM »

Well, I got a set chip and after procedure, I now have bezel lit and it accepts but then spits out every bill I had. I may have left the #10 DIP on  when I was searching for answers. Is that how it would behave if ID was wrong? Another thing is the denomination was set at 5.....which should have been 25. I will pull head and check that DIP.....unless someone suggests otherwise. At least I'm going forward, instead of backwards. Scratch Head
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« Reply #61 on: October 08, 2011, 09:05:29 PM »

Well, I got a set chip and after procedure, I now have bezel lit and it accepts but then spits out every bill I had. I may have left the #10 DIP on  when I was searching for answers. Is that how it would behave if ID was wrong? Another thing is the denomination was set at 5.....which should have been 25. I will pull head and check that DIP.....unless someone suggests otherwise. At least I'm going forward, instead of backwards. Scratch Head

Yes, try dip switch #10 the other way.

The denomination (while wrong) won't make it not work. It just determines how many credits to give for a dollar. Some people set it up as $.01 so they get 100 credits for every dollar. A quick way to add credits for home use.

But where did you see the denomination at 5? Normally when you use a set chip it defaults the denomination to 0 when you get to that setting.
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« Reply #62 on: October 08, 2011, 09:20:18 PM »

I will go flip Dip # 10 then. I used the instructions from here. Not only the denomination was at 5....I remember it being at 5 before, but the validator was at 9 1 as well.
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« Reply #63 on: October 08, 2011, 09:33:51 PM »

Well....the DIP was at 10 and I changed it back....still won't accept any bills. It does hold them for 3 or 4 seconds before it spits them out.
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« Reply #64 on: October 08, 2011, 09:43:09 PM »

Does it just stop and hold it and spit it out, or do you hear things 'running' (i.e. the transport trying to grab it). Are you using $1s

And your credit limit is high correct? Becasue any bill that would exceed the limit would get rejected.
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« Reply #65 on: October 08, 2011, 10:01:46 PM »

Poppo, it doesn't seem to be running. It acts like a working one....keeps it so long you expect to see the credits register. I have tried 1s 5s 10s and 20s. I will go through some of those other settings again and see if something will work.
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« Reply #66 on: October 08, 2011, 10:10:27 PM »

You can run a test mode directly on the BV to see if it will accept bills. The head LED will flash any errors.

BTW, does your BV head say ID022/023 on it?

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« Reply #67 on: October 09, 2011, 05:04:08 AM »

If it's holding the bill that long then the DBV is successfully reading the bill and accepting it. The delay is caused by the dbv waiting for confirmation from the machine to take the bill. (The bill won't be stacked until the DBV receives confirmation.) The bill is rejected when the DBV doesn't receive an answer or if the answer is to not accept it. If the DBV were not reading the bills, it would spit them out quickly.

There's a possibility that the power supply is an issue (it also contains the board that interfaces with the machine) or it could be the harness, or it could be your software settings.
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« Reply #68 on: October 10, 2011, 10:20:18 PM »

Following up on stats reply.....

The DBV 200 and DBV 145 both have the same electrical interfaces and sometimes when the head gets upgraded (from 145 to 200) they forget to change the power supply.
The 200 head has a higher amp draw than the 145 and using the 200head with the 145 supply can produce flakey results (like you are describing).

If you look at the power supply the proper 200 power supply has slots in it, the older 145 supply doesn't.

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« Reply #69 on: October 10, 2011, 10:27:09 PM »

Following up on stats reply.....

The DBV 200 and DBV 145 both have the same electrical interfaces and sometimes when the head gets upgraded (from 145 to 200) they forget to change the power supply.

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I bought a DBV-200 ID023 and do have the vented power supply.

If course now that I dug that up, it also says the ID which is what I asked a few posts ago.  Duh!

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« Reply #70 on: October 11, 2011, 03:10:31 AM »

I just wanted to let everyone know I finally got this working. I just decided to try the set chip again and it took bills and registered credits. Thanks for the help !
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« Reply #71 on: October 11, 2011, 06:31:21 AM »

I just wanted to let everyone know I finally got this working. I just decided to try the set chip again and it took bills and registered credits. Thanks for the help !

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Do you think that you might have made a mistake configuring the set chip options in prior attempts, or do you think that the machine just didn't save the settings correctly?
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« Reply #72 on: October 11, 2011, 06:34:01 AM »

I'm not real sure.....it was only second attempt. I was shocked it worked, but thanks !
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« Reply #73 on: October 11, 2011, 06:40:43 AM »

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« Reply #74 on: October 11, 2011, 10:05:41 AM »

I'm not real sure.....it was only second attempt. I was shocked it worked, but thanks !

FYI, and I'm not sure if this is what happened. But it you if you set the denomination, but power down the machine before 'saving' it (by pressing the self test button again) it will reset to 0. This would cause the machine to behave like yours was. It will take the bill, validate it, but then ultimately reject it due to a zero denomination. This is why it's important to set the denomination, press the self test button again to save the setting, and then turn off the machine.
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