Red White & Blue won't take quarters.

[MrMrsSlots]

   I just purchased a "Red White & Blue" slot machine manufactured by IGT.  The quarters will not go down the proper slot to give credits.  Any help would be appreciated. Model is B4933C, if that helps any.

[poppo]

First make sure that you have the proper sample coin on the comparator.

Next try turning the sensitivity adjustment back and forth a few times. Then turn it fully CCW and then CW just a bit.

Let us know if that helps.

<edit> But before even doing that, does it take bills? What is displayed on the front LEDs? Is the insert coin lit?

[MrMrsSlots]

This machine takes quarters only.  It is an older machine, that appears to be from a casino, and is before bills and coupon payouts.  There is a piece that causes the quarters to go down the "reject" slot, and if it was "pulled" back into the coin mech, the quarter would go past the "scanner".  It was refurbed in 5/96.

[cowboygames]

If you post pictures, front and inside, we'll have an easier time helping. Sounds like an S or S+ model, but could be older. Need to see to know

[poppo]

This machine takes quarters only.  It is an older machine, that appears to be from a casino, and is before bills and coupon payouts.  There is a piece that causes the quarters to go down the "reject" slot, and if it was "pulled" back into the coin mech, the quarter would go past the "scanner".  It was refurbed in 5/96.

Ok, so what is the status. Does holding back the diverter make it work? With the door open can you add a test credit with the little white button on the coin optic?

Pictures always help with identifying things.

[MrMrsSlots]

Here is the coin mech.

[MrMrsSlots]

Here is the outside of the machine.

[Buzz]

You have the coin comparitor in backwards.  With a 25 cent machine you should be able to see the sample coin.

Second thought I think I'm wrong.

There is something just not right with the comparitor, Looking at the angle of the rake it's installed right. I'm thinking it's a Dollar CC.   Can you post the numbers on the front of it??

Also would you post a Pic. of the machine with the main door open ?

[MrMrsSlots]

Here is a pic of the inside.

[MrMrsSlots]

Here is a closeup of the coin mech.

[MrMrsSlots]

Just a thought before I head to bed.  There is a key switch on the side of the machine.  Does this circuit need to be open or closed for the machine to operate?  I have key switches that I could replace it with if that is the problem.

[cowboygames]

Buzz I think you're on to something. That is what the back of the comparitors look like, except mine have the solenoid for the rake mounted on the back and his doesn't. They're the same otherwise. It may just be backwards

[Buzz]

No Rob  look at the rake. A good coin will exit the CC to the hinge side of the machine ( our left )  That is what the CC in the pic. is doing.  I forget the number of the CC for Silver Dollars but it's installed like this one. (Ass backwards )

The key on the outside is just a jackpot reset switch and it is also used in the set up of the machine. It will not have any effect on the CC. ( I don't think )

Is that a dollar coin head I'm looking at ??   There is a chance it has a Dollar coin optic shim.

Forgot  it's a S+ machine.

[cowboygames]

  lack of knowledge strikes again Thanks for the lesson Buzz

[StatFreak]

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There is something just not right with the comparitor, Looking at the angle of the rake it's installed right. I'm thinking it's a Dollar CC.   Can you post the numbers on the front of it??
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No Rob  look at the rake. A good coin will exit the CC to the hinge side of the machine ( our left )  That is what the CC in the pic. is doing.  I forget the number of the CC for Silver Dollars but it's installed like this one. (Ass backwards )
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Is that a dollar coin head I'm looking at ??   There is a chance it has a Dollar coin optic shim.

Forgot  it's a S+ machine.

That is definitely a large coin comparitor. The sticker on mine reads "57026990", not  "57026890", but it is almost the same (mine doesn't have a full spring, it has a spring loaded wire pushing from behind).

The spring-loaded coin holder/slider is clearly set for a large coin, and after comparing it to the position used for my $5 coin, it looks like it's probably a dollar token or Ike. Remember, it's backwards, so the position of the slider in his picture is almost completely open.

My S+ large coin head also trails to the right, so I think Buzz was correct and he also has a large coin head. I'm willing to bet that the hopper is a dollar hopper, too.  

Hey, one can't expect a dollar machine to take quarters.  

<ADD> After trying to measure his coin head, there's a possibility that it might just be a 50¢ machine...

Stat

[poppo]

Which goes back to the original question of whether or not it has the proper sample coin for what is being played.

[StatFreak]

Which goes back to the original question of whether or not it has the proper sample coin for what is being played.

The short answer is almost certainly not. The position of the sliding coin holder is much too wide to support a quarter and of course, that CC isn't even designed to hold a small coin.

The simplest solution is to remove the comparitor and verify the sample coin, then verify that the hopper is setup for the same sized coin. Then MrMrsSlots will have a choice of buying tokens that match his machine as it is set up or swapping out all of the components of the coin path to change it to a quarter machine.

Stat

[MrMrsSlots]

   OK, the wife and I like to play the slots.  But this is the first machine that I have ever owned, so please  excuse the ignorance herein.  Since we usually play the quarter machines, and this machine is available in a quarter machine, I just assumed that is WAS a quarter machine.  The attached pic shows otherwise.  Now here are my new questions.  Can I get my hands on Silver dollar sized slugs/tokens?  And can I convert it to a quarter machine?

[Buzz]

David I think your on to something it being 50 cents.  The coin head is a left hand entry and a dollar was most times a right hand entry. I did say most times because I have some dollar heads that are right handed.

I have to move a bull dozer today so will be gone, but I think I see a 61 error on the display that needs to be addressed. That or 61 credits.

[poppo]

Can I get my hands on Silver dollar sized slugs/tokens?  And can I convert it to a quarter machine?

Yes on both. It would probably easier and cheaper to convert it to quarters. You would need

Quarter coin comparator
Quarter spacer thingy for the optics
Quarter shelf wheel for the hopper
Quarter pinwheel for the hopper (but you might get by with using the dollar one, I have)

But as Buzz noted, it looks like you have a 61 error. To clear it do this:

1. Power up the machine (see if it still shows 61)
2. Open the door and press the white self test button and the display should change to 61_1 and you should hear a ding.
3. Close AND LATCH the door.
4. Turn the jackpot rest key and the 61 should clear.

Let us know what happens. You are dead in the water until all errors are cleared anyway.

[MrMrsSlots]

  Thank you, all of you, for your help in this matter.  I guess I need to replace the reset key switch ( I do have a similar one ).  Now I only have to check the reset switch to see if it is normally open or closed.  I will post back in a couple of days as to what has happened.  Have plans for this afternoon, and then for some unknown reason I still need to go to work and make at least some money. LOL

[MrMrsSlots]

The switch appears to be a normally open switch.  But I can't seem to find the white self test button.  Where would this be located?

[MrMrsSlots]

One last post ( for now that is ).  Found the white self test switch.  Pressed and held, got 61_1.  Closed the door, crossed the wires for the reset switch, and all appears to be working.  Now I just need a bunch of my silver dollars, or some slugs.  I wonder is any of my old sheet metal contacts could punch out a bunch of slugs for me?  Again,  a big thank you to all who posted and shared your knowledge with me.

[poppo]

Now I just need a bunch of my silver dollars, or some slugs.  

Glad you got the error cleared ok.   Sometimes that 61 can cause some problems.  

If you do use dollars or tokens or whatever, just be sure you put a matching one in the coin comparator. You will have to pull your CC out (it just snaps in place) to get to whatever is currently in there since it's on the other side.

And yes, the jackpot reset switch is a normally open switch that springs back on it's own when you release the key.

[Buzz]

MrMrsSlots  until you round up the quarter parts your going to need, try putting a half dollar in the CC for a sample coin and see if the machine will play with them.  If you do have a dollar shim in the optics, it's going to not count every coin dropped in, but at least you will be able to play the machine some.