Need help with Vision

[stayouttadabunker]

Can i cut the wires at the cash can door and tape them up ...right where they are wired into the door switch

yup! The point is to twist them together to create an illusion to the MPU that the door's are closed -
we're faking the computer.
Where you tie those wires is not important - as long as they don't get pinched into the metal of the cabinet!

[stayouttadabunker]

okay, I just checked...the "Door Closure MB" error on the VFD display is the result of the two wires I mentioned for the cash door not tied off.
They need to be terminated together and taped up so they don't ground out against
anything metal in the machine cabinet.
They should be located behind the cash box area.

Pull those suckers out of there, cut them them or rip them out, strip off a 1/2" of  cover from the ends,
twist them together and throw some electrical tape over the bare twisted wires.


There MAY be two other wires like these in the belly door on the top left hand front side.
Those monitor when the belly door is open.
Twist those suckers together too and tape them up.
That should take care of all the closure "M, MB, PHD" and any other door errors.

By the way:
"B" mens belly door
"M" means main door
"MB" means main bill cash door
"PHD" means something I never needed in life...  

[triplediamond]

Cut wires at switch of CC taped them together ...no bill door open on LCD ...checked for wires at belly door ...none same Closure MB Restart ...wierd thing is the cash/credit button is only button lit up on the deck ...if that means anything

[stayouttadabunker]

Cut wires at switch of CC taped them together ...no bill door open on LCD ...checked for wires at belly door ...none same Closure MB Restart ...weird thing is the cash/credit button is only button lit up on the deck ...if that means anything

Button lights don't mean anything at this point because you haven't checked them with a multimeter to see if they're any good.

You need to go back into the settings and run an door optics check...
I will give you the rundown on how to do that in 5 minutes but 1st, shut off the machine and power it back up.
I need to find out what the "restart" being displayed on the VFD is all about...

Also, are there any credits on the display beside the errors?
If so, hit the cashout button two times and report back ASAP.

[stayouttadabunker]

Cut wires at switch of CC taped them together...

You cut the wires on the Coin Comparator?
You CAN'T do that!!!!  just kidding...
"CC" in our world, means the "coin comparitor" -
I know you meant the "Cash Can".  Good! 

Every S2000 I've seen has those same two green wires hanging under the button deck
on top of the fluorescent light ballast on the top left-hand side when you open the belly door.

Yours may possibly be tied together already and shoved into the loom of the door harness -
besides that, we're getting an "MB" error which means the "main bill cash door."

[triplediamond]

No credits on machine ....never was ....0 in coins played window blank in other 2
I will check again at the belly door ....Sorry about the lingo I will get it right

[stayouttadabunker]

Good...
Have you turned off the machine's power and powered back up yet?
I need to figure out this "restart" baloney...
It's driving everyone nuts!    

[triplediamond]

Turned off and on ...I did this a couple of times actually...still same error everything works on machine except this  :162-nd no lights on the deck, try to feed coins ...they drop right through ...I have no idea either 

[stayouttadabunker]

We don't know of your button lamps are any good except for that one "Cash/Credit" lamp.
Like I said, you haven't checked them with a multi meter yet and they're not important right now.
You will get them working later.

Does the bill acceptor work?
Try to insert a $1 dollar bill.

[stayouttadabunker]

We need to see what is "enabled".

Open the door, press the test button once.
On the LCD, you should see "Accounting"- press the spin button.
That opens up another column beginning with "Terminal".
Hit the Cash/Out button 4 times to go down to "Version" and hit the spin button again.
The "Version" column should pop up on the LCD screen.
Hit the spin button and you will see a page on the LCD screen telling you what is enabled.
This would be a very good time time for you to snap a picture and show us what is on there.

[triplediamond]

Ok stuck a $1 in the BV and it took it showed it on the screen.....Buttons on deck lit up and played game ...as soon as I hit the max credit button,the candle stopped flashing and Closure MB on VFD went away ......open the door ..close it candle flashes and closure MB comes back on until you hit the button to play game then goes away 
Oh and the coins are registering and falling in the hopper 

[stayouttadabunker]

I think you have a setting in the Options that controls how the candle should act.
No biggie...it's in the candle part of the menus under....uh.....lol...be right back.

okay..go to...>>> Options/Machines/Candles/Door Candle...you can change the door candle setting to
turn OFF  immediately every time you close the door.

You better get your video camera ready and show us that puppy in action! 

[cowboygames]

That's how it works. If you open the door, the candle flashes and you get closure MB till you play a game to clear it. That screen going blank and the door open coming up may be an optics issue or a burp. Keep playing and see what happens

[stayouttadabunker]

He just needs to do a little tweaking here and there with the settings
and get the coin mech to work again and he should be fine.

In a recap -
The biggest two things that solved a lot in pinpointing the problems
was installing the jumper to see the errors like "Dead Battery".
But he had in re-install the RFA OS card to get that far!
Every time he turned off the machine, with a dead battery, he lost the BOOT up routine!
The RFA HAD to stay in to see errors...!
Also, re-seating that top slot BGM card finally allowed the LCD computer
 to READ the card as we saw in the boot up that there was nothing occupying the 1st HARD DISK 0. -
now it reads 64kb!!!!

Finally, clearing stuff that the previous seller didn't know beans about like
tying up cash door wires and so forth got this game up and running again.

[Yoeddy1]

The progress is outstanding!  Video footage is a must once it's done!

Jason

[cowboygames]

Coin mech is working according to his last post. He had a hiccup normally associated with a open door, that's why I mentioned an optics problem. Opening and relatching the door cleared it. Maybe the latch just wasn't seated all the way and the optics lost contact for a split second after he played a game

[stayouttadabunker]

Coin mech is working according to his last post. He had a hiccup normally associated with a open door, that's why I mentioned an optics problem. Opening and relatching the door cleared it. Maybe the latch just wasn't seated all the way and the optics lost contact for a split second after he played a game

Could be a simple optics alignment problem....
who knows how many times that door was opened without checking it?  
Those little screws can't keep it in the right spot FOREVER!

The progress is outstanding!  Video footage is a must once it's done!

Jason

I agree! Video clip please!!!  

He's probably washing all the fingerprints off the glass and button deck...
mine looks like hell now! 

[cowboygames]

 :97-That's my point Bunker, most likely doesn't have any more real issues

[triplediamond]

Update ...everything works fine ...stilll get the error but I will have to check the optics like you have told me ...I am happy to be playing....Just hit a 750 on the bonus round   one last question for today ..for some options ,the first being VOLUME on my list..do you have to use the key chip every time to access these ??
On another note I cant thank you guys for all of your help...I would have never got this far in a short amount of time if it wasnt for all your knowledge. all you guys are good people ...Thank You    Bunker ....you really amaze me ..you are the MASTER OF TROUBLESHOOTING...
I will clen up the fingerprints... and shoot a video but it will have to be tomorrow ....my phone is deader than a doornail

 

[cowboygames]

volume can be adjusted in menu 3 with or without credits on the machine, no keychip neccessary

[Yoeddy1]

Fantastic!  Bunker, you are the man...again.  One of the most selfless guys I know.

Jason

[stayouttadabunker]

haha! Can I put MY machine back together now? 

On the LCD screen, it will display a message for only a few certain options that you would need to use the Keychip to change it.
Mainly you only need it for changing the Keychip options, Denomination, etc.etc. It's a good chip to have.
 
Once you set the options the way you want it, you never really have to change them again - that is until you buy different kits to play with and swap out software/glass/strips...  I think you might want to leave this one in there for awhile...
Get used to how the accounting works too!
There's lotsa cool stuff in there that you never see the tech at the casinos use! 
It's fun to check how the machine is paying out every now and then with the reset key and accounting sheets!
   
Enjoy your game and if you get any problems -
let us know TD and we will try to help you out! 
It's always good to ask here, before you change settings that you may not be familiar with.

[zarobhr]

Cut wires at switch of CC taped them together...

You cut the wires on the Coin Comparator?
You CAN'T do that!!!!  just kidding...
"CC" in our world, means the "coin comparitor" -
I know you meant the "Cash Can".  Good! 

Every S2000 I've seen has those same two green wires hanging under the button deck
on top of the fluorescent light ballast on the top left-hand side when you open the belly door.

Yours may possibly be tied together already and shoved into the loom of the door harness -
besides that, we're getting an "MB" error which means the "main bill cash door."

to clarify MB CLOSURE means that main door was open and now closed AND bill cash door was open and now Closed (its actually 2 pieces of information (2 doors) in one message

[stayouttadabunker]

to clarify MB CLOSURE means that main door was open and now closed AND bill cash door was open and now Closed (its actually 2 pieces of information (2 doors) in one message

Cool! 
If the main door is closed and I open the bill acceptor cash door through the belly door opening -
what message would I get?  That's assuming the sensors switches are in full operation
and the wires not cut, twisted, and taped up.


(I can see guys running  to their machines trying this out... )

[zarobhr]

assuming belly door switch is still functioning and not been cut and tied
in this order
belly or main door open ------M open
bill door open ------   MB open
bill door close  -------  M open and B closure
belly or main door open -----  MB closure


bellyand main  door closed but bill box a little open beacuse no lock or not tight 

if games played since main door open then    B open
if no games played since main door open       B open and M closure