My Home Brew TITO program

[zarobhr]

I don't believe it reads the Bar Code. The Dollar & cents amount is stored in a computer.
I don't know anything about computers, I just know that I can cash out of one machine & the other machine will take the ticket with the correct  amount. The amount has to be less than $3000.00.

My Slot tech..  is the best.

the bill validatyor has to read the bar code in order to be able to send the validation number to a host. His particular BV was not reading the barcode and just spitting the ticket back out. once he changed the BV then he was able to read the ticket.

[SLOTMAN]

Is anyone using a DBV200 to read tickets???

[FORDSBS]

I don't believe it reads the Bar Code. The Dollar & cents amount is stored in a computer.
I don't know anything about computers, I just know that I can cash out of one machine & the other machine will take the ticket with the correct  amount. The amount has to be less than $3000.00.

My Slot tech..  is the best.

the bill validatyor has to read the bar code in order to be able to send the validation number to a host. His particular BV was not reading the barcode and just spitting the ticket back out. once he changed the BV then he was able to read the ticket.

 

[Foster]

The JCM DBV can read some coupon Bar Code generated by a Bally System if I remember right.
Do not know if that system was designed as a TITO system or not.
If you have the DBV-200 manual it is listed because one of the dip switches enables it.

[FORDSBS]

I don't believe it reads the Bar Code. The Dollar & cents amount is stored in a computer.
I don't know anything about computers, I just know that I can cash out of one machine & the other machine will take the ticket with the correct  amount. The amount has to be less than $3000.00.

My Slot tech..  is the best.

Everyone thinks their slot tech. is the best.
I think mine is the best.
Here is video where it takes over $3000.00
http://youtu.be/k4_Nxfi5W-k

That must say something !!!!

[PLUNGER BOY]

 

I don't believe it reads the Bar Code. The Dollar & cents amount is stored in a computer.
I don't know anything about computers, I just know that I can cash out of one machine & the other machine will take the ticket with the correct  amount. The amount has to be less than $3000.00.

My Slot tech..  is the best.

Everyone thinks their slot tech. is the best.
I think mine is the best.
Here is video where it takes over $3000.00
http://youtu.be/k4_Nxfi5W-k

That must say something !!!!

I agree yours as posted is the best K+ 

[Foster]

The limits are locked because it is coinless mode on one of his machines.
IF I take it out of coinless mode then it could accept any amount for a voucher as well.
If I remember right both VS chips are 11GX1 (has to be 1) since both are multi-denom.

My machine takes any amount for a voucher  machine thinks it can take coins but I have removed hopper, plate and token from comparator.

[FORDSBS]

the one i showed is 11gx5 with token
also works in
1 --11gx1      coinless
1 -- 11gx1 coinless
1  -VS009GX0  coimless
1 -- 11gx5  coinless  -- doesn't work

HAD TO UPDATE

[Foster]

I figure a screenshot is due.
It is not perfect but it works.

[stayouttadabunker]

You're printing and validating a ticket with a single machine Foster?
Will it work with two or multiple machines now?

[jdkmunch]

That's great!

With your code you could make a bunch of blank tickets and have them each worth an amount you choose.

[jdkmunch]

Another problem is the serial connection.

I've had 5 hooked up at one time. But I think that's about it.

[zarobhr]

Another problem is the serial connection.

I've had 5 hooked up at one time. But I think that's about it.

if you have a decent pc there are some good 8 port serial cards avail for about 120. they also make a 16 port one, and depending on pc you can but 3 of these cards in 1 machine

[jdkmunch]

Yeah I had mine going to a USB hub

[Foster]

I have a modified version that  I set up for IFFV68
he is actually running 2 copies with different serial ports

I figured out to get one program to handle multiple forms (one per machine after I set his up)

When I get a chance i will update his to use the single program (multiple forms)
I may modify how I am handling the SQL stuff
It only opens the database when it needs to run a read query or add a ticket. rest of the time it is closed.

So yes it will run more than one machine. I do not know what my program limit is.
What I really need to do is find a C# interface to the serial port that lets me modify the DCB block for the serial port (set fParity to false or 0)

[stayouttadabunker]

I have an idea Foster...
Instead of everyone getting this for each machine - could YOU be our database backroom server?
We all could Paypal ya a few dollars per year for server expense and that way you will have free internet!
All we gotta do on our end is run a serial cable harness from our machine to our desktop computer?  

We will have the first worldwide database for slot homeowners!
Scratch it...Bad idea...I'm sure the authorities will be all over the place snooping those IP lines...  

[Foster]

I can see 2 problems with that idea.

1 How do we prevent duplicate tickets (enhanced validation the machine creates the whole number after being initialized with a seed number) and you have to do it after any chip changes. or you get a prirmary or secondary SAS doiwn depending on which you configured for the validation system.
this can introduce duplicate tickets more than once.
Those with knowledge of SQL Server know that if something is not configured right those duplicates can create problems, as I found out after accidently entering same ticket number in 2 records.
in fact I and IFFV68 had tickets that had the same ticket number on them
I used the data base with my tickets in it as a starting point for his database
Some of my tickets had large values assigned to them.

2 I would not know what would be a good protocol to transmit the data between the server and clients or if SQL Express will allow it.

Even my machine has printed duplicate tickets, after a game change.

[stayouttadabunker]

lol It was just me thinking on the fly...I agree...not a good idea...lol

[zarobhr]

lol It was just me thinking on the fly...I agree...not a good idea...lol

actually it would be kinda cool but the reel drawback is the amount of time it takes using sql queries over the internet the gaming machine would timeout waiting of the response from host. entire transaction should take less than 200ms

[Foster]

200 ms is the normal response time.

I have seen my S2000 wait many seconds before the ticket is returned, when the redemption fails.

[zarobhr]

200 ms is the normal response time.

I have seen my S2000 wait many seconds before the ticket is returned, when the redemption fails.

your right foster it appears that it may actually wait 15 secs for a response.
on the other issue of duplicate validation numbers,   will have to do the testing but it should work like this

every machine would need a unique gaming machine validation number (IGT issues these in pools to the casinos so that every machine using sas in the world will have it own number.

to prevent the dups when having to reissue the command you would have to know what the last sequence number was used by the gaming machine i am going to start i way of tracking this is my program and then if i need to reset it for some reason because of a change then i can set it to the last number used and that should avoid the duplicate. we will see

[jdkmunch]

Foster are using
AndyP's dll ?

[Foster]

I am not using Andy's DLL,
I got a hold a document that is easily obtained because it is on a states gaming/liquor web site that describes SAS perfectly.

[jpinto]

I’m new on this forum.  I have a good knowledge of sas protocol due to the use of IGS system on a slot floor on the casino I worked.
I never consider to possibility of developing an application do deal with slot machine communications until I read all this good info from you guys.
I have downloaded the SASEGM.dll I believe form Andy.
Foster said he didn’t use Andy’s dll.
What are you using?
Did developed your own code?
Can you provide it?
Regards,

Joaquim Pinto

[Foster]

I developed my program in Visual Studio 2010 using .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.0
I used the SeriallPort Class as defined in .NET
I may go back to experimenting with other Serial Port DLL here shortly.
The framing errors I get from the .NET serial port class makes me do do extra coding to fix them.

I grabbed a document from the State of Montana - Gaming and Liquor licensing concerning SAS.
IT was enough for me to figure out how to do the SAS protocol.

http://doj.mt.gov/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/sasimplementationguide1.pdf