Newbie Questions...

[kimdol13]

I created an account when I needed some information about the machine I purchased and so far, this is the 'CHIPTALK' of slot machines.  I do have some questions that I haven't found answers for just yet.

1)  What is the key on the top of the processor board?  I have 2 of them, 1 installed, and see no difference if it is turned.
2)  What is the toggle switch the back right of the door when open?  Again, I flip it and don't see any change.
3)  What is the red light on the right side of a round top near the top of the 'One Armed Bandit' arm?  I have never seen it illuminated.
4)  Where can I get keys made for the front door and the reset?  I have only 1 of each.

I will try to help folks as I learn.  I already found a switch in the cash box that the guys at OhioGaming weren't aware of.

I know we all have our reasons for owning a real slot machine.  Mine is my wife likes to play and it is just too far to a local casino.  I also have a custom poker table that we play Texas Hold'em on a regular basis.  A regulation craps table (although only 7 feet long), a BlackJack table, and a roulette table with a casino 25" wheel.  A slot machine was just the next thing to add to 'our little casino'

Thanks for the help,

Terry

[stayouttadabunker]

Welcome to newlifegames kimdol !
What model is your slot machine? 

[knagl]

Mark- It's a S+.


Hey Terry-

A picture or two of the parts you're asking about will help a lot to make sure we're talking about the same thing.  

That said:

1. The key lock on the processor board was likely used in a casino environment to prevent a slot attendant from tampering with the board, or to alert a security system when someone had accessed the board.  Machines used in Wide Area Progressives (like "Megabucks") would have this extra precaution, and then some.

2. A picture would help here to know exactly what switch you're talking about.  Some casinos added in additional switches to monitor door access.

3. Again, a picture would help as well as knowing where the wires for this mystery light go to.  Some machines were fitted with a device called "The Attendant" by a company called Glenview, which was an automatic hopper-filling device.  When the hopper would empty, "The Attendant" would automatiically dump another load of coins held in reserve inside the machine into the hopper bowl, and then light up a light on the outside of the machine to let the human slot attendant know that more coins needed to be added to "The Attendant" at a convenient time.  It was a neat concept, as it allowed players to get their money faster than a traditional empty hopper situation where they'd be waiting for a person to bring a hopper fill.  That's purely speculation as to what the light is for, however -- it also could be an aftermarket light added by the casino it was in for a different reason.  Knowing where the wires go to would help, as a standard S+ machine did not come with a red light on the side of the machine near the handle.

4. It depends on the keys.  If they're high security keys like Medeco, you can't.  If they're barrel locks, a locksmith MAY be able to make duplicates, but it would probably be cheaper just to buy a new set of locks and keys from one of the vendors here and change them out.  If they're standard keys, any hardware store should be able to make duplicates.

[OhioGaming]

I already found a switch in the cash box that the guys at OhioGaming weren't aware of.

I guess that makes those guys at Ohio Gaming a bunch of idiots for not knowing when the stacker box is installed that there are micro switches (not the white cherry switch which is common but the same micro switch that is used on the stacler door) on the back wall that would complete a relay.

[kforeman]

I already found a switch in the cash box that the guys at OhioGaming weren't aware of.

I guess that makes those guys at Ohio Gaming a bunch of idiots for not knowing when the stacker box is installed that there are micro switches (not the white cherry switch which is common but the same micro switch that is used on the stacler door) on the back wall that would complete a relay.

nah i wouldn't say they are all a bunch of idiots for missing a micro switch that was probably added on by a casino way back when. 

Konami used micro switches for cashboxes on the 1.5 platform and it's an easy miss when you are looking for a big, white cherry switch instead. 

[kforeman]

3. Again, a picture would help as well as knowing where the wires for this mystery light go to.  Some machines were fitted with a device called "The Attendant" by a company called Glenview, which was an automatic hopper-filling device.  When the hopper would empty, "The Attendant" would automatiically dump another load of coins held in reserve inside the machine into the hopper bowl, and then light up a light on the outside of the machine to let the human slot attendant know that more coins needed to be added to "The Attendant" at a convenient time.  It was a neat concept, as it allowed players to get their money faster than a traditional empty hopper situation where they'd be waiting for a person to bring a hopper fill.  That's purely speculation as to what the light is for, however -- it also could be an aftermarket light added by the casino it was in for a different reason.  Knowing where the wires go to would help, as a standard S+ machine did not come with a red light on the side of the machine near the handle.

we had those Glenview devices in some of our S+ games back in the day.  ours had a very small red LED that wired up to fit inside the candle so unless you were looking you probably wouldn't notice it.  there may have been other options for the light but i haven't ever seen anything mounted near the handle either. 

[knagl]

we had those Glenview devices in some of our S+ games back in the day.  ours had a very small red LED that wired up to fit inside the candle so unless you were looking you probably wouldn't notice it.  there may have been other options for the light but i haven't ever seen anything mounted near the handle either. 

There's a casino in Hinckley, Minnesota (Grand Casino) that has them installed in some PE+ Video Poker machines they still have on the floor.  If you look closely in the candle you can see a red or green LED indicating the status of The Attendant.

[kforeman]

There's a casino in Hinckley, Minnesota (Grand Casino) that has them installed in some PE+ Video Poker machines they still have on the floor.  If you look closely in the candle you can see a red or green LED indicating the status of The Attendant.

yep that's the one!  now that you mention it i do remember that ours did have the green LED as well; it truly was a pretty good addition to the high volatility games.

[stayouttadabunker]

I think I have a few of those?
Is this it?
It has an orange lens cover on top...

Click on photograph to enlarge if needed...>>>

[knagl]

It could be, Bunker, but I don't think so.  One of my machines came from the Blue Chip casino in Indiana, and it had an extra light added by the casino (like the one in your picture) attached to some black box in the top box -- it wasn't related to the Glenview Attendant (there hadn't been one installed).  Some casinos have weird procedures and make weird modifications (like these little lights) to some of their games.

Pure speculation, but that light could have been attached to a sensor in the drop door (the slot stand under the machine) so that surveillance could easily see if a door was open.

[stayouttadabunker]

Pure speculation, but that light could have been attached to a sensor in the drop door (the slot stand under the machine) so that surveillance could easily see if a door was open.

I agree with you.
I fully disassembled mine but somebody basically took a pliers
and cut the wires off where it exits the bottom hole.

B.Foxxslots was having some problems and I had thought the Glenview
and the candle were related.
I don't remember or not if he had said that they were interacting somehow.
He said that there was all sorts of modified harnesses inside his S+.
I'll bet now that he was looking at the extra candle LED lamp wiring and where it was going to.

Maybe Blue Chip casino had them extra candle LED lamps going to a sensor in the Glenview hopper
to let attendants know that it was time to fill the Glenviews?
It's possible the "black box" had a triac switch, and relay/transformer/rectifier circuitry board
in it to turn on the lamp when the Glenview was low.

I wish Foxxslots took some pics before he took it apart to show us...

[knagl]

No, my Blue Chip machine never had a Glenview Attendant.  I'm not sure that I ever figured out what the extra light on mine was for, but it was definitely added by the casino after the machine left the factory.