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« on: January 08, 2012, 10:05:31 PM »
I've replaced the Mpu nd bypassed the LCD top box and the sound is still corrupt. As you can hear from the video.  What else lies between the mpu out and the speaker?


it completely destroys the experience for me  Help


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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2012, 11:06:54 PM »
Have you tried bypassing the MPU and going straight to the amp from the top box?
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2012, 11:11:30 PM »
No how?
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2012, 11:14:54 PM »
Run the jumpers from the LCD output straight across to the amp input. I did it this way on my Double Diamond run back before I sold it
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2012, 11:18:55 PM »
Im trying to picture this --  no out from mpu

Audio out from LCD into amp and amp to speaker


I don't think I have an amp - this is a vision
ready cabinet - no bat ear speakers
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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2012, 02:04:46 PM »
you probly need a new MPU board
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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2012, 02:06:42 PM »
Tried a known working mpu with same results
Someone suggested bypassing the amp
And going directly to speaker


Will try that next when I figure out how to
Do it
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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2012, 02:20:19 PM »
You can't bypass the amp as there is no other way to get any kind of volume from the machine.
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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2012, 04:17:41 PM »
Does anyone know what connector has the sound out on the back motherboard?  I traced the wire down from the top box to motherboard and it looks like the molex above the multimedia connector labeled door
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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2012, 08:21:43 PM »
Well I traced the wires and there definitely is no amp.

Molex goes from motherboard door and led (4 wires) up to top box where I plugged it directly into the speaker.
So my next move would be to replace the motherboard?
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« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2012, 10:37:18 PM »
Quote from: jdkmunch on January 14, 2012, 08:21:43 PM
Well I traced the wires and there definitely is no amp.
Molex goes from motherboard door and led (4 wires) up to top box where I plugged it directly into the speaker.
So my next move would be to replace the motherboard?

How is your tray speaker hooked up?
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« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2012, 10:38:28 PM »
There is no tray speaker
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« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2012, 10:49:58 PM »
okay...hoo boy, your machine doesn't have anything...  Duh!
It's barebones baby!  You need a sound amp man!

Well....is the topbox speaker harness Molex anything like the 4-pin/2-row squarish connector on the back of the LCD computer?
If so, have you tried to plug it in there yet?
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« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2012, 10:57:15 PM »
Yes - you may hold the critical information I need .....


LCD works fine -   Here is how it's connected

Motherboard connector runs up into a two wire connector that runs into the audio input on LCD. 
 LCD audio Out goes to speakers



Mark on the motherboard there is a multimedia connector
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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2012, 10:59:10 PM »
Ok...gimme a minute...I'll go look at my Ms.Little Green Men machine.
I disconnected my audio amp to see if I could replicate your problem.
Short video coming up...it's still processing...okay done!>>>


<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/wT0XJWoKDOw&rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/wT0XJWoKDOw&rel=0</a>
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« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2012, 11:23:21 PM »
Now, look at this video clip I just made for ya Munch.

BTW I caused a reel tilt... rotflmao 
It's still processing at youtube I think...>>>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/bg49ll5rAbg&rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/bg49ll5rAbg&rel=0</a>
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« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2012, 11:27:07 PM »
Problem

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/7VmurSInFKY&rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/7VmurSInFKY&rel=0</a>


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« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2012, 11:40:03 PM »
I don't have anything connected to the back of my LCD on that "audio Input" 2-pin connector near the LCD hinge.
Pull that out ( the 2-pin audio harness) and go into the "Set-Up"/"LCD sounds"/ and turn that one up.
Now you should ONLY have the LCD sounds and not the two that are presently playing.
You've already turned off the machines "generic" sounds - that's good.

Me I like both running at the same time...but that's me and my twisted mind....lol



In other words....all you want is that 4-pin suqare Molex coming out of the back of the LCD to the speakers!
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« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2012, 11:46:17 PM »
When I do that no reel sounds only
LcD sounds
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« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2012, 11:47:32 PM »
Hmm...  Scratch Head 3
I'll be right back in a minute...
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« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2012, 11:51:20 PM »
Your LCD should have it's own spin sounds programmed into one of the folders in the top-of-LCD PCMCIA flash card.
Listen to mine...( I'm making a short clip for you on my LCD "Spin" sounds...) gimme a minute...

Okay, I turned of my machine sounds and it's associated "generic" spin sounds as well.
I'm just running on the PCMCIA flash card sounds only!
It HAS...."Spin" sounds or "reel" sounds...>>>
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« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2012, 11:53:57 PM »
It does not

Pinball is a newer game right?

Could this be because it's a vision ready cabinet not a newer one?
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« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2012, 12:00:34 AM »
Your flash card should have the "reel" or "spin" sounds programmed into the PCMCIA card.
Does your Pinball use a DSV sound card on a MMLB?

Here's my spin/reel sounds coming from my LCD flash card only.
I turned off the machines "generic" sounds...>>>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/MyZ01vvs6eM&rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/MyZ01vvs6eM&rel=0</a>
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« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2012, 12:05:59 AM »
Dou you have any cable coming off the motherboard from the multimedia commector?
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« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2012, 12:07:59 AM »
I do but it's not hooked up to anything in the topbox at all.
I only use it for Non-Vision games and it would go to the audio amp.
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