My Auto Play Switch

[stayouttadabunker]

I've been using this 12Vdc automotive switch on my S2000 ever since I bought the machine
and threw it in the back seat of my Subaru...

It fits almost perfectly into the belly door lock hole - I had to shave it slightly smaller with a flat bastard file.
I crimped two tabs onto a couple of wires and pushed them onto two contacts of the switch.
At the other ends of the wires, I trimmed off about a 1/2" of vinyl cover off.
Basically, I fold the bare copper strands over once, remove the 2 connectors from the "MAX" bet button switch,
place the bare strands over the switch tabs, and push the connectors back on.
This creates a solid connection from the "Max" bet button switch to the toggle switch I have in the belly door lock hole.

When I push up on the red toggle (The "On" position), the machine plays continuously -
until it either runs out of credits, or hits the Jackpot.
When the toggle is in the "Off" position, I can play the machine like one normally would, in a live casino.

I have a dumb question...
The other tab on my Auto-Play switch...is it to light up the small LED lamp inside the switch's red toggle handle?
If so, how can I have it light up "red" - when it's in the "On" position?

First person who gives me a correct, simple solution - wins a set of brand, spanking,
"minty"-new stirring straws 'still in original packaging from the...>>>

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[cowboygames]

Well, it's automotive, so it probably needs 12v to run, which is tricky in and of itself, and you used the normal ground for your auto-play function. Not sure that you could do it without first seperating the ground inside the switch. I believe pushing the max bet button completes a circuit and isn't grounded. Whatever you end up doing will require hooking up individual power and ground leads for that light

[stayouttadabunker]

Could I borrow the power from the denom reel glass lamp to light up the Auto-Play toggle LED?
The reel glass denom lamp is on continuously though.
I'm not sure how it would work to turn off the LED toggle light when the toggle is in the down postion?
And yes...it is rated at 12Vdc.


or...  

I could hook it up in "parallel" with the "Max" bet button lamp?
At least the red toggle will light up when the "Max" bet button is lit up?  

[cowboygames]

You would still need to figure out if the one side of the max bet button goes to ground or not. If it doesn't, then you won't have the two things needed to light the bulb. You could burn out an IO board for your efforts also

[stayouttadabunker]

I'm not sure about that cowboy because I'm only using the MAX button lamp's power - not it's switching circuitry?
Aren't they running via separate grounds and live wires?
Oh...where is that S2000 Guru a.k.a. Foster ?  

[cowboygames]

They are Bunker, but the switch uses the same groung for the light and the on/off function. If you use the button lighting for the switch light you might be putting voltage to a line that can't use it. Even if that does work, the max bet light only comes on between spin cycles so it would flash on and off briefly with each spin. I was trying to think of a way you could use the machines 24v source.

When used in a car you run 12v to the positve side of the switch and the light. You the run a line from the center spade connector to ground. When the switch is turned on it closes and both feeds use the common ground. In your case, I don't think you can use a common ground to light the switch and activate a spin cycle

I would suspect this is part of the reason IGT didn't wire that way either to the switch inside the machine

[stayouttadabunker]

I see what you're saying cowboy!
If I use the "MAX" bet button lamp's power - it will shoot voltage into the switching line and ruin the door I/O board since I'm already using that switching circuitry with the toggle.
I think that's how I burned out my 1st door I/O board a few years ago! 

[cowboygames]

LOL, do I get straws for saving your machine? I could probably make you a switch with seperate leads for the light and use a bulb compatible with player panel lighting voltage

[stayouttadabunker]

haha! Yes Cowboy!
I'm giving you the Donald Trump Taj Mahal Gladiator straws
for your guests stir their martinis and cocktails!!!     
I can make just about anything but a little freakin' toggle switch
with two separate grounds is outta my league! lol
I think I'm just going to shop around radio schnack for a different toggle switch.
I'll be looking at the back for the schematics this time! 


BTW  I got them from johntoomanynumbers in JaRRZeee!
It was part of his intimate collection of slot memorabilia...
Maybe he knows where the infamous "Gladiator" is?!?! lol
I'm keeping a couple for myself before I ship 'em out to ya!
Hey! You never know when I might have a guest over
and they need to stir their martini 's!!! 

[Foster]

When you press any player button on a S2000 you are grounding that input line.

Either the MPU or Door I/O board is inverting the switch inputs.

The Lights in the switches are turned on by the door I/O by grounding (or TTL/CMOS logic 0) that particular output line
TTL/CMOS by definition connects the output pin to ground when in a logic 0 and to supply voltage when logic 1

Basic electronics theory electrons flow from negative or ground to positive
Before it was determined that electrons move when current flows, the scientists thought it was a positively charged particle that moved when current flowed.

In TTL and CMOS logic final output stage there are 2 transistors that either turn the output to logic 1 or logic 0 as determined by the rest of the logic in the IC.

one transistor with the supply voltage (VCC, VSS, etc) connected to the collector and the emitter connected to te output pin, sets a  logic one when it is biased to conduct,
the second transistor with the collector connected to the output pin and the emitter connected to ground via the ground pin that when it is biased to conduct sets a logic 0
 
I noticed that IGT has some logic circuits where 13V is logic 1
Look at the Comm board schematic and you can see where they noted it in the schematic

[stayouttadabunker]

I always knew that the switches were logically based components - I didn't know the lamps  were.
Thanks for pointing that out foster!
I learn something new everyday.

By the way, I accidentally grounded out my auto-switch tab momentarily to
the edge of door hole  as I was re-installing it after I took the photograph.
I got ALL kinds of nutty errors including the LCD computer locking up
a spaceship on Ms.Little Green Men while it was in the bonus round!

I wish I had a camera at that moment because that message actually came up
on the "Red Screen Of Death" on the Vision LCD computer screen before it totally CRASHED!!
I had to use a CLEAR chip to get it running again as all logic were frozen like a hockey rink.

I broke the rules of not turning off the main power.  


I'm glad I didn't blow my I/O !