trouble with SAS DLL on S2000

[bhinkley]

I am looking for some help here.  I made the serial cable to interface with the comm board, and connected everything to my computer, but when I am going through the settings I can only get a choice between SAS channel 2 or 8.  How do I get it to show SAS channel 3?

[TZtech]

Cant say I have ever seen that before. What SB version are You using? My only other idea is that its not seeing the comms board (Either the ribbon cable has come loose or the power supply in the distribution box I dead) I dont know if this would cause the machine not to show comm 3 as an option.

The other option is to use the DCS port (channel2) but this is TTL level not true RS232.

[zarobhr]

check the bally comm channel most likely it is set to 3. change it to something else then you can set sas to channel 3

[bhinkley]

Cant say I have ever seen that before. What SB version are You using? My only other idea is that its not seeing the comms board (Either the ribbon cable has come loose or the power supply in the distribution box I dead) I dont know if this would cause the machine not to show comm 3 as an option.

The other option is to use the DCS port (channel2) but this is TTL level not true RS232.

My machine is running a SB1000 chip.  Which port is the DCS port?  I am new to owning a machine so I have no clue what is what without the posts on here.  Also, do you know which pins need to connect where for that one?

[Foster]

Most of us use the Serial port on the Comm board which is J82 it is on front of the comm board cover upper right hand side
The comm board is the board in he middle of the AC Distribution Box there should be a ribbon cable running to it from the motherboard.
The connector you need for the comm board is Molex SL 0.100 5 pin male connector.

IF you try to use the DCS port you have to build a TTL to RS232 board using a MAX232 Chip, I and Poppo built them for our S+. its not hard but no need to build one since the S2000 has one built into the Comm board.
That is why you use Channel 3.

it is only 5 pins there is a 7 pin connector just to its left (not used)
J82 Comm Bard                 Serial Port
1  TxD  ------------------------>  2 RxD
2  RxD  <------------------------  3 TxD
5  Gnd  <---------------------->  5 Gnd

Here are the details on where it is and what is should be set to:
3 Machine Options
   4 Communications Options
      2 Bally Miser
         2 Channel = Off
then back out of menus enough to go the SAS
      1 SAS Setup
         1 SAS Primary
           1 SAS Primary Address (anything you want but usually 1 - but it is up to you)
           2 SAS Primary Channel = 3
           3 SAS Primary Link Down = Game Enabled

There is a SAS config
3.4.1.3 SAS Config
      Cashless - Primary
      Progressive - Primary
      Legacy Bonus - Primary
      ASDC - Primary Inot even sure what it is)
      Link Bonus - Primary
      Validation - Primary
3.4.1.4. AFT
           1 Asset number I used the physical Serial number but any none zero number will be ok, especially if using enhanced validation.
           3 Partial Transfer - Enabled.
           4 Ticket Transfer Limit whatever you want it to be (max 100,000)



       

[bhinkley]

What zerobhr said.

most use the Serial port on the Comm board which is J82 it is on front of the comm board cover upper right hand side
it is only 5 pins there is a 7 pin connector just to its left (not used)
J82 Comm Bard        Serial Port
1  ------------------------>  2
2  <------------------------  3
5  <---------------------->  5

Here are the details on where it is and what is should be set to:
3 Machine Options
   4 Communications Options
      2 Bally Miser
         2 Channel = Off
then back out of menus enough to go the SAS
      1 SAS Setup
         1 SAS Primary
           1 SAS Primary Address (anything you want but usually 1 - but it is up to you)
           2 SAS Primary Channel = 3
           3 SAS Primary Link Down = Game Enabled

There is a SAS config
3.4.1.3 SAS Config
      Cashless - Primary
      Progressive - Primary
      Legacy Bonus - Primary
      ASDC - Primary Inot even sure what it is)
      Link Bonus - Primary
      Validation - Primary
3.4.1.4. AFT
           1 Asset number I used the physical Serial number but any none zero number will be ok, especially if using enhanced validation.
           3 Partial Transfer - Enabled.
           4 Ticket Transfer Limit whatever you want it to be (max 100,000)



       

settings all configured following this information.  still no connection to the device.  my laptop has a compact 15pin serial port built in.  Do you think if I got a 15 pin to 9 pin adapter would that work to connect directly to the serial port instead of trying to use USB to 9pin serial?

[Foster]

IF it is a 15 pin pin connector on your laptop that is not Serial that is a external monitor port.

Most laptops that have serial ports have 9 pin connectors

IF you have to get a USB to serial adapter try to get one using a FTDI chip set.
iI got mine from from Ham Radio Outlet (I got lucky when I bought it - needed it to program my radio)

[bhinkley]

oh.. okay.  From what I read in the original thread if I were to get a usb to serial with the FTDI chipset that should work.  Is that correct for sure?

Here is my setup.  I am running Windows 7 professional.  The test app v2 worked perfectly to install and it opens.  When I connect the usb to serial adapter I had from a long time ago and then connect my custom cable to that and to the connector on the comm board I click initialize and absolutely nothing happens.  Any further suggests would be appreciated.  I am looking to eventually have legacy bonusing working and hopefully ticket in, but no ticket out if possible as well, but it wouldn't matter if that wasn't the case.

[Foster]

How you determine if hte machine is communicating after the app is running and you have picked the right machine address and comm port
you should open and close the door a couple times and watch the program
it should say something like "Slot Door open" shortly after you open the door and "Slot Door Closed" shortly after you close it
He could have used Main instead of Slot in that app
I wrote my own in C# its not perfect but it works for me and a friend is using it at well with his two machines.

[bhinkley]

I wrote my own in C# its not perfect but it works for me and a friend is using it at well with his two machines.

Would I be able to try a copy of yours?  It's okay if you don't want me to have it.  I will have to try again.  For some reason the last time I connected the cable my laptop said it couldn't install the device drivers.

[Foster]

That would depend on how much work you want to do on your end to make it function with your setup.

Have you worked with Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 or 2010 versions?

[bhinkley]

That would depend on how much work you want to do on your end to make it function with your setup.

Have you worked with Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 or 2010 versions?

Very little.  I know just some very basic things with programming.  I think the cable must be the problem.  I am guessing on the test app the poll address is the SAS address that I would choose.  Set it up with that.  Got the cable to install the drivers correctly.  Initialized the app.  Opened the door.  No response in app.

[Foster]

His test App and or DLL has issues with some serial ports/drivers and some USB to Serial Port and their drivers.
I think it has more to do with some underlying code from either MS or the device maker 
I cant even use on board serial with his test app or my app in Vista on a WinFast MCP 61 based Motherboard sold by Gateway

[staz]

foster wanna come over and hook my machines up...... this looks so damm hard lol.... i def need ticket in ticket on my slots slot machine.....

[Foster]

Staz it would cost you plane fare (round trip), transportation, food,  hotel or spare room,  misc incidentals and a complete mint Triple Double Wild Cherry (3 coin)
 

[staz]

Staz it would cost you plane fare (round trip), transportation, food, and hotel or spare room,  and a complete mint Triple Double Wild Cherry (3 coin)
 

lol why does this stuff look so damm chineese lol.....i should do this step by step..... im looking at the whole picture and getting confused...... well ill be getting a $500 top dollar soon so i have a little time to learn..... i really just wanna be able to use tickets in my machine..... thats my goal..... this way i wont need to put 5000 dollars in a machine to spin it 5 times lol.... what program can i download for my computer ..... i should start with that first.....

[Foster]

you cant download a TITO program or system, those of us doing it on here either wrote the code to do so (I and some others) or are using what we wrote.

[PLUNGER BOY]

Staz it would cost you plane fare (round trip), transportation, food, and hotel or spare room,  and a complete mint Triple Double Wild Cherry (3 coin)
 

lol why does this stuff look so damm chineese lol.....i should do this step by step..... im looking at the whole picture and getting confused...... well ill be getting a $500 top dollar soon so i have a little time to learn..... i really just wanna be able to use tickets in my machine..... thats my goal..... this way i wont need to put 5000 dollars in a machine to spin it 5 times lol.... what program can i download for my computer ..... i should start with that first.....

Staz . pick up foster in a limo after you payed his airfare and he will probably hook you UP

[Foster]

Yes I would
I did mean kit, not a whole machine