why cant a single denom s2k take 5 $100 bills if its set to $500 denom??

[staz]

why cant this work.....there has to be a way without using coins.......the casinos have $1000 machines im sure they take 10 $100 bills......if you clear the machine and set it to $100 then go to denomination and set it to $500 under coin denom...... would it allow you to put 5 $100 bills in to play 1 credit???

other option can you set up a multi denom without a button or pad? and set it to $500 on all games would it work?   are my sg chips compatable to multi denom? already have a multi denom version chip in it.......

sb base 000512 SB100512 CH EDIT TO PREVENT FUTURE CONFUSION.
sg1 000328
sg2 000328

[Foster]

Staz have you played a S2000 set for $500 per credit in a casino?

In theory what you say about inserting five $100 bills to equal one credit should work on the S2000 but it might not be allowed.

The highest denom I have used or played in a casino is $5.

[staz]

im almost temted to try it but im affraid of messing my 1st clear up.....if i set my accounting denom to $100 then set my coin denom to $500 would it let me use 5 bills to play $500 at 1 credit.......right now my accounting denom is set to $500 and i changed my coin denom to $100 from $500 and its letting me play 1 credit at $100.......i wish there was someone that has a s2k on here with more clear experience to test this theory

HOW CAN I FIND OUT WHAT MY ACCOUNTING DENOM IS SET AT??

[cowboygames]

He can't do it on a single denom machine because the software has no ability to justify a partial credit till all five bills are inserted. Each bill into the BV has to equal at least one whole credit. He's tried a multidenom VS chip and the base chip he has doesn't seem to want to recognize the multidenom capabilities of it to do what he's trying to do.

Staz, I don't remember, did you try that version chip with or without a game clear?

[slotsteve]

staz that why when it came in it was set on coins,  thats a lot of bills to keep around every time you want to olay it you,ll wear out the cash can

[Neonkiss]

He can't do it on a single denom machine because the software has no ability to justify a partial credit till all five bills are inserted. Each bill into the BV has to equal at least one whole credit. He's tried a multidenom VS chip and the base chip he has doesn't seem to want to recognize the multidenom capabilities of it to do what he's trying to do.

Staz, I don't remember, did you try that version chip with or without a game clear?

Just set it up as tokenized if you want to play at $500.00 per pull.
Now your token can be worth a max of 100 cerdits ($50,000.00)

[slotsteve]

He can't do it on a single denom machine because the software has no ability to justify a partial credit till all five bills are inserted. Each bill into the BV has to equal at least one whole credit. He's tried a multidenom VS chip and the base chip he has doesn't seem to want to recognize the multidenom capabilities of it to do what he's trying to do.

Staz, I don't remember, did you try that version chip with or without a game clear?

Just set it up as tokenized if you want to play at $500.00 per pull.
Now your token can be worth a max of 100 cerdits ($50,000.00)

thats the easyest and best way

[Foster]

Staz do not clear the machine no need to do so if you have multi-denom version chip in it.

Let me experiment and see what mine will do.

Also Staz stated it has a multi denom version chip in it.

I use this post for the results of the experiment

I am going to do it with a smaller denom like $100 I only have twenties in my pocket.
I am using a VS011GX1 I believe

[Neonkiss]

Also Staz stated it has a multi denom version chip in it.

Ya, that's what threw me off. The title of his question is "why can't a single denom s2k take 5 $100.00 bills if its set to $500.00 denom???
Cowboy answered that question in post # 4

Now multi denom may be a differant answer.
We'll stay tunes as Foster provides the info.

I would think one of the multi-denoms needs to be the min of $100.00 if your feeding in the $100.00 bills as it will not reconize a partial credit

[cowboygames]

He has to be able to get a split VFD display that shows a dollar value for the money inserted for the machine to recognize an amount that is equivelant to a partial credit. All he gets is credit values for limit settings, now dollar values. When he got the machine it had a single denom version chip, I had him put the multidenom version chip in the other day and it would not give him multidenom options or the split screen display so he couldn't get it to set up for the $500 spins. My Money Mad Martians machine also has a SB chip that won't recognize or set up multidenom. ANY denom setting over $100 will have to be done on a machine that has a multidenom version chip and split screen VFD. His whole idea behind having a $500 machine was to have to put 5 $100 bills in for each spin. He'd rather not have to use tokens to do it.
If you watch the videos on youtube, everyone playing the single denom $500 machines is using printed tickets to add credits

[slotsteve]

the casino were it came from had it set on tokens  , i used dollar tokens in it to play , the glass is setup for 500 dollar  coins so why would you want it on  multi denom?

[staz]

because if its multi denom i can set it to $500 as my 1st denom and shut off all the other denoms which will make it where i can use 5 bills for 1 credit....... sorry for being fussy but my whole idea to having this machine is to run 100's through it not tokens.......it would be easier if my 1st idea works......ill be waiting on fosters experament before i try anything....

[staz]

these are all the chips in the machine
sb  000512 SB100512 CH EDIT TO PREVENT FUTURE CONFUSION.
sg 000328
vs 011gx1

[OhioGaming]

im almost temted to try it but im affraid of messing my 1st clear up.....if i set my accounting denom to $100 then set my coin denom to $500 would it let me use 5 bills to play $500 at 1 credit.......right now my accounting denom is set to $500 and i changed my coin denom to $100 from $500 and its letting me play 1 credit at $100.......i wish there was someone that has a s2k on here with more clear experience to test this theory

HOW CAN I FIND OUT WHAT MY ACCOUNTING DENOM IS SET AT??

Go to      7.1.1.1 Acc. Denomination

[staz]

that doesnt pop up?

[cowboygames]

He's tried that. He still runs into the problem where the BV won't work because the machine can't justify a partial credit when a $100 bill is inserted. It simply doesn't know what to do with the fractional credit amount. His denom options don't include accounting, player and coin denom. He simply has a denom setting with that multidenom chip because the SB doesn't seem to be multidenom capable

[OhioGaming]

So you are saying that a machine will not display the accounting denomination?

[staz]

its kind of like the $100 wheel of fortune same vfd style....... it only takes 100s not 50s or 20s the more i think about it multi denom is my only option......luke told me my sg chips might not be compatable to multi denom i might need sg 000363 chips

[cowboygames]

That is correct. When I was on the phone with him the other night, he stated he simply had a denom setting option. Not specified as accounting denom and no player denom setting options. Same as if the single denom version chip was in it. What was very telling is that he also didn't get the split screen VFD display that a multi denom chip gives you. As stated above, my Money Mad Martians software is this way. The SB chip isn't programmed for multidenom operation and won't recognize it's features beyond single denom operation. Without a dollar value set to credits for limit setups and what not, I don't see any way to set a $500 denom and use the BV to add credits

[staz]

no accounting denom in any where in accounting but i found that it did take 100s at the casino under terminal accounting it said  
bill drop 511 <<<in 100s
coin drop 13466
voucherdrop 49602

its amazing 24 million just in ticket vouchers got entered in this machine thats sick!!!!

[Foster]

Staz I cant give you accurate results on my experiment if you are not using SG 363 or 598, but also not sure if that game can use 363 or 598 is this same machine that you had Top box LED issues on?

I just tested mine
I posted it here since so many have replied.

Using VS011GX1 a multi-denom version chip
set for 1 denom, I disabled the other 3 denoms, and also coinless

The machine will accept any bill under the $25 denom
I had to use $25 even though I know the thing can go higher, might be a limit do to accounting denom set to $0.01
It accepted the twenties and ones I had in my pocket it tried to reject some bills but that was the BV having an issue with the bills.

What version chip is it using (use Accounting menu to find out)
1 Accounting
    Version Accounting.

[cowboygames]

That was the issue I had with the Martians game. There's only one set of SG chips that work in that game, but there might be others for the Top Dollar as it was a much more prolific platform

[staz]

i think im gonna need 363's and it should work........

[OhioGaming]

Since $100 bills are the largest US bill floating around you will not be able to set your accounting denom to $500. It will have to be set for $100.

7.1.1.1 Accounting Denomination set at: $100.00
7.1.1.2 Coin Denomination set at: $100.00
7.1.1.3 Player Denomination set at: $500.00

Bill Validator will accept $100 bills.

[Foster]

Now to put my machine back to $0.50, $1, $2, and $5

I would change it to just $5 if I could get a $5 denoim label that matches the $5 that is part of the touch pad labels.
it is colored purple and white.
any of you photochop gurus what to give it a try for me.