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« Reply #100 on: September 14, 2012, 01:16:53 PM »

exactly  - this is strictly for home use
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« Reply #101 on: September 15, 2012, 04:43:46 AM »

Could somebody take a photo of all of the hardware, cabling, and connections.  I was looking at the one staz uploaded, but it was a bit blurry.

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« Reply #102 on: September 15, 2012, 01:50:45 PM »


keychip to change the settings on your machine




Most of us have an S2000 so if you can post all the settings that would help.  Thanks.
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« Reply #103 on: September 15, 2012, 01:53:09 PM »

Just 3

Sas channel 3
Machine address 01
Validation set to system

That's it
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« Reply #104 on: September 15, 2012, 05:13:51 PM »

Just 3

Sas channel 3
Machine address 01
Validation set to system

That's it

a few more things to set.......bally miser channel off otherwise you wont be able to set sas channel to 3 also set sas to follow credit limit instead of bill limit and your good to go.....
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« Reply #105 on: September 15, 2012, 06:17:10 PM »

Hi All

Recieved the first generic Pic development board today (I actually gave up on this one as I ordered it in June and have since ordered another from a different seller)
This should make things considerably cheaper

Power comes from J85 connector on the comms box

Apart from the board that is avalaible from the following EBAY sellers You will also need a programmed 18F25K22 chip and a 16Mhz crystal.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dual-Sided-PTH-1-6MM-Fiberglass-PIC28-prototyping-Board-F-28PIN-Microcontroller-/120940459933?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item1c289cf79d
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PIC28-Prototyping-Kit-for-28-Pin-Microchip-PIC-Microcontrollers-for-DIY-/370650101065?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item564c77b549
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PIC28-Prototype-Kit-for-28-Pin-Microcontrollers-18F2550-/320929788052?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ab8e7f094

Pros
Fairly compact design

Cons
No Mounting holes for PCB standoffs
No visual indicators for power, TX and RX (But could be added to prototype area)



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« Reply #106 on: September 16, 2012, 12:23:25 AM »

Just got this in the mail today

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PC-USB-to-RS232-RS485-UART-TTL-Signal-Converter-FTDI-FT232BM-BL-/300714587736?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4603fc7658

now i have perfect communication with my bally 6000 cash wheel, 5 line. for the first time it can print and use tickets, this program rocks.

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« Reply #107 on: September 16, 2012, 07:08:31 PM »

Kibble

I am a bit confused how You hooked that up to the Amicus  Scratch Head

Bally 6000's are fairly common -for the benefit of other members could You please advise on machine settings and interface details.
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« Reply #108 on: September 16, 2012, 10:14:05 PM »

When i get home later i will post the setting from the slot.
 With the  RS232 RS485 UART TTL Signal Converter i used the RS232 to the slot itself and the UART TTL ports from the dev board.  I tried other R232 max boards from eBay but could not get it to communicate with the slot. but would work with the IGT just fine.
 
What does not come into the slot is the message that you had set up for me in the program.

Setting in attachment
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« Reply #109 on: September 17, 2012, 04:48:34 AM »

Ok fellas, gonna give this a whirl...

Need to order the parts...Munch has been providing guidance on what to order, but I have a few questions that need confirmation:

1.  Cable connecting slot machine to Max232.  (Being developed)
2.  Max232 ttl to rs232 adapter (I ordered 2 of the following as they appear to be the same as pictured in Munch's photo:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/RS232-To-TTL-Converter-Module-Chip-MAX232-adapter-LED-/250879810414?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a699a1b6e )
3.  Amicus18 (I ordered 2 of these as they appear to be the same as pictured in Munch's photo:  http://www.newark.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?sku=79R5806 )
4.  USB power adapter (I have 2 that I never use that were bundled with my iPhones...will these work?)
5.  USB Type A to Type A cable (I have these)
6.  I went out to the Amicus website and downloaded MPLAB_IDE_8_46.zip.  I'm assuming this is the bundle that I will need to program the Amicus18's when I receive them.  I'm assuming this bundle contains the USB drivers for the board.  What else will I need from you guys to program these?  This is new to territory for me.

Anything else that I'm going to need?  It looks like the Max232's that I ordered come with some kind of connection wires.  I'm assuming I can use these to connect the Max232 to the Amicus18?

Thanks for your help guys!

Jason
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« Reply #110 on: September 17, 2012, 08:24:07 AM »

Yep that's it!
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« Reply #111 on: September 17, 2012, 04:21:04 PM »

Jason

Have a look at posts 79 and 105 in this thread for a cheaper alternative - I think most NLG members like You simply want something to fit and forget
I would recommend the proposed setup only for members who are interested in doing further development on the project.
JDKMunch hopefully should be able to offer pre programmed chips soon.
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« Reply #112 on: September 17, 2012, 04:41:24 PM »

Jason

Have a look at posts 79 and 105 in this thread for a cheaper alternative - I think most NLG members like You simply want something to fit and forget
I would recommend the proposed setup only for members who are interested in doing further development on the project.
JDKMunch hopefully should be able to offer pre programmed chips soon.


Thanks for info.  Parts per above have already been ordered.  My time will be somewhat limited for a while, but I really would like to experiment with this a bit and learn more.  From what I see, a ticket can go through the BV, register the credits, and go down to the cash box.  Or the ticket can go through the BV, register the credits, and then ejected back out through the BV (is that correct?)  I would be fine going either way.

Is there a step by step procedure documented yet around programming the Amicus16 to accomplish the TITO process?  I'll be using a Win7 x64 laptop and as I mentioned, I downloaded the software to do it.   I was just hoping to get a head start reading up on it before the parts arrive.

I'll help out with this project any way that I can.

Thanks,
Jason
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« Reply #113 on: September 18, 2012, 01:53:52 AM »

Great - Welcome to the club.
Tickets have to be stacked before the machine issues credits.
The code can be found in post 86 on this thread - save the file change file extension to .bas. you can then open it from the Amicus IDE and compile.
Good luck and ask If You run into any issues.
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« Reply #114 on: September 18, 2012, 02:04:39 AM »

Thanks!  Did you mean post 81?  I see a .txt file attached in that post. 

Jason
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« Reply #115 on: September 18, 2012, 02:51:18 AM »

So, I opened the TITO.bas file within Amicus18 IDE.  Again, I'm just nosing around the file until the hardware gets here, but is it just a matter of compiling the TITO.bas file as it currently stands, or are there specific values within the .bas file that you manipulate to derive different behaviors of TITO? 

Thanks,
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« Reply #116 on: September 18, 2012, 04:14:05 AM »

Yep just compile and when You get the hardware load.

If You want to customize the ticket data let me know what You want Your tickets to show and I will send You the relevant text string
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« Reply #117 on: September 18, 2012, 04:46:48 AM »

Cool.  Yeah, fire it over and I'll take a look.  I'm assuming this is different than the ticket data that can be configured within the printer settings within the menu structure of the machine itself?
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« Reply #118 on: September 18, 2012, 05:29:40 PM »

Same thing - they built that into SAS so staff in big facilities dont need to manually enter details at each machine
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« Reply #119 on: September 19, 2012, 04:11:34 AM »

Gents,

In a case where somebody wants to do a game change, or perform a clear/key on a machine, will that affect any of the programming that was done on the Amicus?  In other words, if I clear the memory on my 3902 (Game King) and stick in a different game, can I leave the TITO connections where they are or should I disconnect the RS232 cable to the machine, load the game up, and then reconnect the cable after it is complete and set up the following changes again?

Sas channel 3
Machine address 01
Validation set to system

I'm a frequent game changer, so I thought I'd ask.

Thanks,
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« Reply #120 on: September 19, 2012, 05:30:24 AM »

As long as Your settings are correct it should have no effect on the Amicus
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« Reply #121 on: September 19, 2012, 10:54:14 AM »

has no affect at all as i did a few ram clears on my top dollar......only setting you will have to chjange after a clear is in 7 config
1-Validation set to system
2-voucher to sas
3-voucher to follow credit limit
then change your normal settings out of config
1-bally miser to off
2-Machine address 01
3-Sas channel 3

and your done!!
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« Reply #122 on: September 19, 2012, 10:02:53 PM »

I got my kit from jdkmunch today . But my key chip is 20 miles away at my other house DAMM cant even try it . I want to hear the MUMMY pay out
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« Reply #123 on: September 19, 2012, 10:53:23 PM »

is there a way to turn  off the sound of the ticket being inserted in the slot machine? cant seem to find that option?
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« Reply #124 on: September 19, 2012, 11:05:21 PM »

I got my kit from jdkmunch today . But my key chip is 20 miles away at my other house DAMM cant even try it . I want to hear the MUMMY pay out


Let us know how it works. 

I only have two more amicus boards
left and that's it.  I'm not in business to sell
This stuff. Just helping out with the few I have.

It's working really
well. I have all my machines on tickets
now and it's great.
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