new to slots and need some help / guidance please

[mark805]

West coast time here so i'll be giving you a call tomorrow around 11 pst.

[mark805]

Whoohoo.. got the clear and set90 chip in the mail the other day and got the progressive working.

I do believe my DBV is dead tho... I am able to enable it in the settings but it doesn't cycle or turn on, the front light does not come on either. Any ideas on where to look? I removed the whole unit and examined it for loose wires and couldn't see anything very obvious. If I look into the dollar bill slot i can see 2 red lights glowing inside so it appears to be getting power.

Other then that its been a hoot to play

[Ron (r273)]

Whoohoo.. got the clear and set90 chip in the mail the other day and got the progressive working.

I do believe my DBV is dead tho... I am able to enable it in the settings but it doesn't cycle or turn on, the front light does not come on either. Any ideas on where to look? I removed the whole unit and examined it for loose wires and couldn't see anything very obvious. If I look into the dollar bill slot i can see 2 red lights glowing inside so it appears to be getting power.

Other then that its been a hoot to play

You might unplug and reset the DBV and transporter as it has to fasten in the back before you push it down in place.

Don't know which DBV you have but here is a post to read.

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=768.msg5449#msg5449

and all of these,

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?board=35.0

Hope this may help to give you more in site.

Ron

[knagl]

I do believe my DBV is dead tho... I am able to enable it in the settings but it doesn't cycle or turn on, the front light does not come on either.

Enabled or not, you should hear it making a whirring noise when you first turn the machine on, provided it's getting power.  Based on the red lights you see it sounds like it is.  Is there any noise at all from the machine (aside from the three reels spinning) when you first turn it on?

You're going to have a nice surprise when you do finally get your validator enabled, by the way -- you have an iGraphics lighted sticker on the front of your machine.  Once we get your validator working you'll have an extra-special looking machine as that "This Machine Accepts 1, 5, 10..." sticker lights up. 

Did your machine come from Washington or from another state (do you know?)?  Does Washington have any loss-limit laws for their casinos (like Missouri used to)?

I ask because when I got my first S+ the validator would cycle on power-up (it would make noise) and I could see those two red lights, but it would not take bills at all -- turns out the cable that enables it was cut because an interrupt device had been placed in-line with it at the casino due to state laws that limited losses.  Do you see any wires hanging loose on the harness that comes from the DBV and goes towards the MPU board in the back?  If I recall correctly, the wire that sends the "enable" signal is orange with a green stripe.

Here's a question that we never established an answer to that I see in the thread.  Do you have a rectangular removable cash can with a handle on it that goes in the metal enclosure?  The validator won't enable without it in there.

Finally, and unrelated to the DBV, there should be a divertor that will send extra coins (if you insert too many) to the tray rather than them getting eaten by the hopper (and the player losing a quarter), unless you have Montana credits enabled (in which case the coin should get eaten because it adds to the credit meter).  You may want to check around the coin assembly to see if that has been bent or is otherwise disabled causing your coin problem.

[mark805]

Ron - Thanks for the links. Made for some insight. I'm using the DBV 145 and think i might just replace the unit to a 200 to see the newer bills.

Knagl - The DBV does not make any noise when starting it up. As far as where the machine came from, Arizona. When i removed the DBV unit I noticed a service sticker dated Oct 2004 on the side of the housing for the DBV, this makes me thing it was working 4 years ago. Oh and the cash box is inside and the optice dont appear to be blocked, is there a way to test them?

I will look around for that coin diverter, as it stands right now if you put in an extra coin it falls into the hopper and does not give extra credit. So I'll crack the machine open again.... after a few moe spins 

[stayouttadabunker]

Yes,
If you put say 3 coins,  into a 2 coin game -  the third quarter will fall through into the tray...that's normal.
There's a certain game prom chip called an SP1137 which allows you to put as many coins as you want into in the slot and all the extra coins goes into the credit bank.

[knagl]

Mark (stayouttadabunker)-

His extra coins aren't falling into the tray -- they're going into the hopper (ie. the machine is stealing extra quarters inserted).


Mark (mark805)-

If it's not making any noise at all, it sounds like it's not getting all of the power it needs -- every bill validator should make noise (cycle) when it first gets power, even if it's not attached to a machine.  You may wish to consider getting a new validator and power supply for it at this point.  The only other thing I can think of is a problem I had with mine where the power connector was a little flaky -- I had to super-glue it back together as half of the connector was loose.  I'll have to take a picture of what I'm talking about, though, as it's tough to explain.

[mark805]

knagl is correct. The third (extra) quarters are going to the hopper.

[stayouttadabunker]

Quarters going to the hopper means the divertor is OFF, working, and okay.
When the divertor gate is ON, the quarters will go into the drop box below the machine.
That means the hopper is pretty full of coins and needs another place to put the extra coins.
Casinos made a hole in the counter and put a drop bucket underneath the machine to catch the extra coins.
Behind the coin mech is a little "rake".
If it's bent out of shape, caught up against the cutout openings somehow,or the two little grey wires have a bad connection to the coin mech board itself, then all extra quarters will NOT fall into the tray - Hence, they get "eaten" by the machine.
Check the two grey wires coming out of top of the coin mech box.
See if there's too much play with that connection on top, if so, than I'd take a look inside of the coin mech box and see if the connectors are loose from the board.
If you have a soldering gun with a fine tip, put a little heat on the soldered joints and it'll re-weld to the board and your "rake" will work again.
No more "eating" quarters!

[knagl]

I said "diverter" earlier when I should have said "rake" -- his rake is not working correctly and extra coins are getting eaten.   

[stayouttadabunker]

yes,
I agree with you knagl. For the new guy's information however, I was just kinda explaining what's going on in there.
I would like to add that the coil for the "rake" only gets energized after the coin-in optics sense that the max amount of coins have passed through.
When that happens, the max play button lights up.
At that moment, the rake gets pulled back by magnetism into the coil and allows the extra coins to fall into the tray.
The rake's coil will continue to be energized (on) until the end of the game (there's no way any coins will be accepted).
If there's something wrong with the wire connections going to the rake, or anything else that has to do with that coil, the rake doesn't get pulled back and the extra coins get "eaten".
I'm pretty sure that if he replaces the whole coin mech, the problem will go away.
Keep wiggling around all the wires in there behind the door - 9 times out of 10 it's a bad ground.
Also, check the cover of the coin mech box for heat...if it's really warm, then I would suspect that there is a loose electronic component in there that is arcing and throwing off heat. 

[mark805]

whoo hoo... got my DBV 200 today and popped it in and boink! I got lights and stuff on the front of the machine

Next question. Is there a setting on the DBV that indicates what denomination the machine will accept? Here is my problem... all bills accepted but $1 and $10. Here is a video. OH -I reset the dip switches and set them all back to off under the unit as well.

[jdkmunch]

Congrats on getting the bill validator working!
To change the denomination you need something called a set chip.    When you put in the chip in you can set several options on the board -

[StatFreak]

All DIP switches OFF is correct, so I'm not sure that I can answer your question. I would suggest turning DIP switch #10 on (ID022) but since the machine is taking the $5 and $20, that wouldn't make sense.

I can tell you that I have six machines with dbv200's, three IGT, two Bally, and one Wms, and not one of them will take the color $10's, even though the software supports it. I got one or two of them to take a color $10 once, and only once. As for the $1 bills..?

Hopefully one of our experts will have a solution.

[jdkmunch]

How come I stopped getting emails when someone responds to a thread. 

I feel so alone

[cfh]

http://gallery.me.com/mleitl#100416
I noticed you used a new gold $10 bill.
that may not work depending on the revision
of firmware you are running in the DBV200.
Same goes with a $5 bill. On the DBV200,
the new purple $5 bill will never work (regardless
of the revision number). You can thank IGT
for that.  Do yourself a favor, sell that IGT
junk and get a Williams dotmation!
(all monies work in Williams DBV200
with revision 2.70 firmware).

[a69mopar]

you must have clicked the notify button which toggles notification on or off depending on current status, click it again and read what it says.

Thanks,
Wayne

[blueridgeslots]

All DIP switches OFF is correct, so I'm not sure that I can answer your question. I would suggest turning DIP switch #10 on (ID022) but since the machine is taking the $5 and $20, that wouldn't make sense.

I can tell you that I have six machines with dbv200's, three IGT, two Bally, and one Wms, and not one of them will take the color $10's, even though the software supports it. I got one or two of them to take a color $10 once, and only once. As for the $1 bills..?

Hopefully one of our experts will have a solution.

Calibrate them, and make sure no crease in the middle of the 10

[StatFreak]

All DIP switches OFF is correct, so I'm not sure that I can answer your question. I would suggest turning DIP switch #10 on (ID022) but since the machine is taking the $5 and $20, that wouldn't make sense.

I can tell you that I have six machines with dbv200's, three IGT, two Bally, and one Wms, and not one of them will take the color $10's, even though the software supports it. I got one or two of them to take a color $10 once, and only once. As for the $1 bills..?

Hopefully one of our experts will have a solution.

Calibrate them, and make sure no crease in the middle of the 10

Thanks Jim. I'll give it a try.