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« Reply #75 on: October 08, 2012, 01:09:34 AM »

The DBV 200 doesn't handle the coloured money.
There was an upgrade available for some but igt restricted the release if the new $5
The dbv200 was supported on other platforms.

This was IGTs attempt to get the small casinos to upgrade to newer machines.

The new magnetic 100's. are not supported. With the dBV series.

For testing use an old $5 or $20 and we can sort out what chip you have later.
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« Reply #76 on: October 08, 2012, 01:57:53 AM »

Is it possible to get a different head for the dvb that will accept the new bills
 
what is the cost??

There is a series of holes along the top and bottome of the opening of the chip is there something that plugs into there to change the programing so to accept the new bills

and if so will I need a set chip to re-enable the bill validator ?

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« Reply #77 on: October 08, 2012, 02:30:54 AM »

Short answer NO.

You can change both the transport and the head to the WBA series.

The WBA head can accept all the bills and the WBA head is compatible with the PE+ however under the necessary protocol the software was never updated to support the newer bills.

IGT pays JCM (maker of the DBVs/WBAs )  to be compatible with their protocol. When they moved on to the S2000 / Game Maker they changed protocols so there is no incentive to update the bill software for the older protocols.

You can probably get everything working but the new $50 & $100s
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« Reply #78 on: October 08, 2012, 02:44:39 AM »

ok that is fine I can have a couple stacks of $1's and some Nickels on hand for game play

if they win I can pay in big bills

Will get every demonination of bill i can find and see if I can get them to work

also the front of the bezel says to put them face up but I have entered them face down and they were accepted is this a glitch or something else

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« Reply #79 on: October 08, 2012, 02:56:37 AM »

DBV has 4 way acceptance.
The earlier head DBA only had 2 way acceptance.
The heads were interchangeable.

Which brings up another thought.  The power supply for the DBA had insufficient power and would behave flakey when used with the newer head. The power supply for the DBV has slits in it, while the power supply for the DBA did not.

This would explain occasional rejections but not rejection of a particular denomination.
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« Reply #80 on: October 08, 2012, 03:12:47 AM »

if they win I can pay in big bills

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« Reply #81 on: October 08, 2012, 04:32:05 AM »

ok that was suppose to be a joke

I am aware that it is illegal to run a gambling place

It was really just a joke !!!

Sorry for the misunderstanding here folks

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« Reply #82 on: October 08, 2012, 07:48:39 PM »

Here is an example of the new head/transport being available and swapable with an old head/transport but not being compatible with an older machine (see protocol).
http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=20533.msg167253;topicseen#new
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« Reply #83 on: October 08, 2012, 09:43:48 PM »

so if i get a replacement head it may not work with the transport  am i understanding that right???

also is the wiring the same just plugs into existing wiring or do i have to get some kind or adaptor

will test tonight to see if the one that I have will take the old $5 got one in change today?

Thanks for the info and the help

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« Reply #84 on: October 08, 2012, 10:28:33 PM »

If its not try flipping the protocol switch.

Did you validate the power supply for the DBV ?

With the DBV series the heads are interchangeable but when you upgrade to the WBA series you need to change transport as well.
You can change heads between WBAs however the software is in the transport not the head.

So if you were to switch heads between a WBA11 & WBA12 the machine with an 11 would remain an 11 despite change of head.

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« Reply #85 on: October 08, 2012, 10:57:03 PM »

will check the power supply tonight when I get home

ok so is there a DVB head that will allow for the new money or do I need to get a WBA head and transport and will they just plug into where the DVB was also do i need a new cash can??

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« Reply #86 on: October 08, 2012, 11:16:41 PM »

There are two versions of the DBV. One has a socketed chip that can be pulled and replaced.
The other is a surface mount chip.

Several options:
You can send the whole head to one of the vendors and they will reflash the head. Either version.

With the one that  has the socketed chip you can buy a chip and swap it.
With the surface  mount chip you can remove the chip with a dremel and solder in a socket.

If you opt to upgrade to the WBA you will get to the same place.
In other case you can't use the new magnetic money.

The DBV doesn't support the technology and the WBA lacks the software for this protocl.

This is where the story ends for the PE+/S+ platforms.

I am hoping to get to a home built Tito at some point.


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« Reply #87 on: October 09, 2012, 01:17:38 AM »

will the home built TITO work in this machine it would  be great if it did

I think I might go that way if it is an option

there is not ticket printer in this machine I would need one right?

would I need to remove the coin comparator and Hopper to make it work?



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« Reply #88 on: October 09, 2012, 11:11:12 AM »

Nope. This is not designed to work with this platform.
There is no stock printer ever created for this unit.

In casinos there was a 3 inch thick box usuAlly the same color as the PE+ where the player tracking was added.
In the GameKings of similar size the ticket printer was installed where the side glass is.
Not sure if one would fit here or not.
Regardless it will be a custom job.
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« Reply #89 on: October 09, 2012, 08:43:20 PM »

  Update:

finally found that all old bills work fine $1 - $100

Thanks everyone for your help

was wondering the players card devices were removed is something that I can put in to the empty holes that might be able to allow me to see it say player stats and keep track of who plays the machine

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« Reply #90 on: October 10, 2012, 05:52:37 AM »

I have tried to remove the MPU to be able to take a picture of it

I can not figure out to get it loose

I understand that It comes out so far then i have to swing it past the hopper for the slant top but I can not get it to pull loose from the backplane

is there a catch or something I have to release in order to release the MPU

Help Please

Lyzard

Ps have pulled on it quite abit and it just won't come loose
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« Reply #91 on: October 10, 2012, 11:28:39 AM »

The trick is to pull harder. There isn't anything else that gets in the way. Its probably just been in there a long time and gunked up over the years.
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« Reply #92 on: October 11, 2012, 02:39:13 AM »

Ok would it be safe to scrape the metal around the mpu holder I think there might be some rust or build up there not sure but I see things that look like oxidation there??

if not a good Idea i won't just checkin' from the experts

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« Reply #93 on: October 11, 2012, 10:52:42 AM »

The metal tray keeps the board from moving around and damaging the connectors.
If its rusted take a bit of sand paper to it.
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« Reply #94 on: October 11, 2012, 07:10:26 PM »

thanks Jay to try that

Also I recieved a Second Monitor today hope this one works better than the other one that I received

will test and let all know

I also want to thank everyone for the help and advice that they have provided to us

This is a great site !!!

Thanks for you time

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« Reply #95 on: October 12, 2012, 04:31:38 AM »

Update:

I installed the second monitor that I received and found that the colors are messed up I think it needs to be Degussed

is It safe to use a degaussing coil on the monitor or is that a bad idea other than the colors it seems to work just fine

Looks like someone put a magnet on the right side or it got to close to a speaker but if it can be fixed easily then I will be a Very Happy Man!!!

thanks for your time

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« Reply #96 on: October 12, 2012, 11:21:48 AM »

Yes, you can use a degaussing coil on the monitor.
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« Reply #97 on: October 13, 2012, 02:20:29 AM »

I will have to see if I can find one in my local Radio Shack

here are some pic's of the screen as it looks now

If you look in the upper left you can see that the words are washed out

the entire left side is washed out am hoping to be able to fix it with the degausser

Thanks for you time

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« Reply #98 on: October 13, 2012, 05:35:33 AM »

is it possible to reset all the meters and Static's on this machine

I read an article about taking apart the game and coin meters and resetting them but I am talking about the one that you get when you turn the jackpot key there is only one that lets you do it i think it is the bill validator stats

But I was wondering if there is a way to reset all of them back to zero's

Thanks for your help

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« Reply #99 on: October 13, 2012, 10:11:46 AM »

It's called a clear chip.
Resets the system to factory.

You need to get yourself a set chip and clear chip.
From one of the vendors.
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