S+ game rejecting coins please help

[solarcar]

I have a token in my coin comparitor. and no codes. when I go to drop a coin into the slot it spits it back out into where my earnings drop into when I can collect, I dont know what its called, what is causing this?

[Nashional]

Does the machine register the coin?

Have you tried a different coin?

Has it worked before?

[solarcar]

no it does not register the coin, and it has worked before, granted I just got it last week. I had a 3300 and 3200 code, but those have been fixed, I have tried other coins as well. the change button just keeps blinking

[jay]

When working normally the Insert Coin light usually flashes
   If its solid then it usually means the slot thinks that at least one coin has been inserted.

I at one time had inserted 3 coins - opened the slot to fiddle closed the door and forgotten totally that I had inserted 3 coins.
SO when I was inserting more. They just dropped into the coin tray....
Puttzed with this for another hour until I applied the magic fix ---- hit the spin button.... DOOOH did I feel stupid.

If this is not the case. Using the white test button - go through a complete cycle until your slot is back at the beginning and then turn off the slot (using the power switch) and back on.
This will probably not do anything for you but it will ensure that you are not in stats mode or gone brain dead due to static

OK assuming none of the above...
Next look at the compartior. Did the harness fall off the side ? or 1/2 fall off. Easy to happen.

While trouble shooting this my first suggestion is to use a quarter as the sample coin.
     I am not saying this is your problem but metal properties vary between batches of tokens so while they look the same they may not be.
     Using a quarter will eliminate this possibility while testing.
     I run my 3 slots and Video Poker with Tokens - so this is just for trouble shooting.

Let us know



 

[solarcar]

 I just did all the above. basically the machine will run when I self test it, I shut the lid and the number 0 is under the winner paid. it flashes at first then is a steady zero, nothing under the credits or coins played section, the cash out button does flash non stop as well. I tried using a quarter and the same thing happens, all coins fall in to the tray, not the hopper or the bin under the machine. where exactly is the optic eye at on the s+ machines?

[jay]

Directly below the Comparitor is a small square electonic board.
This is called an ABC optic.
To look at the board you will see that it appears to have components soldered on in a bit of a triangle pattern.

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The purpose of the optic is to ensure no one is stringing as pulling the coin back up or blocking the bottom of the optic causes a coin-in TILT.

You can test the optic in the self tests. What Game Chip are you using and do you have the associated SP sheet ?
The SP sheet is the guide to get you to the machines various settings.

In the self test you will see it activate A,B,C when you drop a coin through. 0 will goto a 1.

[solarcar]

well, im not sure of what game chip i have nor do I have a sp sheet unfortunately. where can i aquire these materials. and when you say a small box, are you refering to the green board with the brown harness going to it or the one that says coin comparitor. with the black cover held on by 4 screws?

[cowboygames]

You stated there's a token in the comparitor. Is it actually a token or a quarter?

[jay]

Its a small square electronic board below your coin comparitor.
The comparitor is held in by clips not screws, albiet the coin comparitor is held together by screws.
To remove the comparitor you simply remove the harness and unclip it.

Follow this link.
http://www.newlifegames.net/spset/
Click on Determining your SP and SS.

The SP chip is the Game Chip.
THis controls the functions of your game, Ie when you press the white test button + other door buttons you get into various options to set hopper limits, credit limits etc.
Different SP chips have different options.
The SP sheet - is the description of this set of functions including self tests etc.
Using the info at the link you can post what SP chip you have and some kind soul might send you the sheet (assuming your email addy is in your profile).

The SS chip is the Reel chip.
It contains the % of the game, and its what makes a double diamond a double diamond. Change this chip your machine is now a different theme.
YOu just need the matching reel strips and glass. CHIP+Glass+Reelstrips = Game kit. Any S+ can be any game theme. Change from 3 coin to 5 coin etc. Just need the right SS chip.
Somefeatures like Nudge or Haywire require different SP chips so they are normally sold as a set.
There is a SS sheet but this tells you more about the %% and theme - nothings changeable here. You can get this information by going to the IGT S+ bible also found at that link.
and looking up the SS number that matches your machine.

[jay]

Here is a thread that may help.

Worst case it has pretty pictures.
http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=3882.0

[edski]

"all coins fall in to the tray"

If the coins are falling into the tray, they never make it to the optics.
The coin acceptor needs to accept the coin in order for it to fall in the optic path.
If the coin is rejected, it falls to the tray and bypasses the optics.

[solarcar]

I had a token in there, then I took the token out and replaced it with the quarter, and only running the quarters through the slot. it self tests no problem, but the music doesnt play, the reel spins and thats it. I did notice however on the back of the comparitor, is 2 rakes a smaller one that just flops around and then another larger rake that has what looks like a electric magnet with 2 grey wires connected to it. when holding the comparitor in my hand and holding the larger rake back towards the "magnet looking device the quarter falls through the slot that would go to the bin under the machine hence it may work? when not holding the larger rake back, it goes down the other side, that is the change return into the chute.

[jay]

Could be the solinoid is pooched.
Wire tie it back and try it again.

[solarcar]

game prom sp 611

[CVslots]

This machine also has a 3200 error currently (see his other post).  Could be why it's rejecting coins???? 


http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=20200.msg164827;topicseen#new

[zarobhr]

This machine also has a 3200 error currently (see his other post).  Could be why it's rejecting coins???? 


http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=20200.msg164827;topicseen#new

this is from 3rd post in this topic

no it does not register the coin, and it has worked before, granted I just got it last week. I had a 3300 and 3200 code, but those have been fixed, I have tried other coins as well. the change button just keeps blinking

looks like he cleared the other errors

[CVslots]

He posted last night on the 3200, so it appeared the problem was still occurring.  I dunno...

[crgadyk]

This is why opening multiple threads about the same issue is a bad idea 

[poppo]

With the door open press the little white button on the coin optics board. A credit should register. If it does, close and latch the door. The credit should go away. Just want to verify the door optics are working, and that is a quick way to do it. Also make sure all other doors are closed (like the cash can). Nothiong will work right if the door optics are not working or other doors are open.

[solarcar]

sorry I havent been on the past 36 hours ive been swamped at work. I do not have a 3200 code anymore, and all it says is when I shut the hood is the number 1 flashed in the player paid box about 3 times, and then goes steady. the 3200 code was there and then had disappeared before this 1 code had showed up, and the cash/change button flashes,. it does not recognize the coins and just fall into the payout tray. I tried pushing the white button under the optics board and nothing happens, just flashes the number one and thats it.

[poppo]

What happens when you close the door and turn the jackpot reset key?

[edski]

What happens when you close the door and turn the jackpot reset key?

He does not have key for the reset.

[poppo]

He does not have key for the reset.

Where did he say that? 

But not good not to have one. 

[solarcar]

yeah unfortunately I do not have a jackpot reset key....where am i able to get one?

[poppo]

In a pinch you can remove the switch and run the wires out the hole (the switch is normally open contacts). You will need a key to clear some errors (with the door closed), and I was wondering if the machine is stuck in accounting mode or waiting to be reset.