WTS ~ Bettor TITO has arrived !!!

[Captain Hook]

Why go to all the trouble of trying to copy tickets when you just take lets say a $100.00 Bill and put it in the machine

then cash it out which prints a ticket then put that ticket back in and cash it out again and just keep doing this till you have a pile

of $100.00 tickets. Then you can put your $100.00 away and just play off tickets.

Captain Hook

[TheChad]

Why go to all the trouble of trying to copy tickets when you just take lets say a $100.00 Bill and put it in the machine

then cash it out which prints a ticket then put that ticket back in and cash it out again and just keep doing this till you have a pile

of $100.00 tickets. Then you can put your $100.00 away and just play off tickets.

Captain Hook

Yeah, that's what I'm going to do now.  But I figured it was probably cheaper if I could print them on regular paper and I know thermal paper does weird things, like fades, turns all black etc.

It was mentioned that the ticket's could be coppied, so I tried it.  But it turns out thay won't work.    That's all.

-TheChad

[Foster]

Since I work with receipts all day at work, the gloss of the paper becomes normal for me and I do not notice it when looking at an form of thermal paper
that may make it more reflective for the light spectrum used by the BV
ticket stock can be cheap if you buy it from the the right NLG member or a decent quantity from Happ Controls (I would call them and see what version they have in the warehouse before ordering
I picked the wrong stock number and they was holding the whole order because I picked ship when order complete (no back order) once the rep changed the stock number (at no additional charge) other than price difference order was shipped and arrived in a week.
I wish their system would show you only items in the warehouse if you choose in stock items only

[PWRSTROKE]

Hook, I agree 100%.  The chad was messing with paper I think and trying to find alternative to slot paper.  The bv's-all of them are calibrated to only accept that paper designed for them.  Take a currenicey bill -dollar,five,ten-don't matter and a slot ticket and using a fine micrometer and see what you come up with. The thickness is NOT the only thing on slot tickets.  I am not going to harp on this anymore as there are others out there that know this.  I do not even run this sys. nor need it. B.

[reho33]

Here is my original post related to this topic, glad to see it came to be after 3 yrs!
http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?action=printpage;topic=4255.0

[Captain Hook]

I just found something unusual  with the TITO I just installed in 3 of my machines. I have a Bluebird, A Reel Touch and An I-Game+.

The Bluebird has always had a Printer in it so I have accumulated a pile of tickets that its printed with random amounts on them when people have cashed out.

I put the new TITO in the 3 machines last week and its been working great. Tonite for the heck of it I grabbed one of the old tickets that the Bluebird had

printed before I installed the TITO and tried it in the Bluebird and to my surprise the machine took the ticket and gave me over $416,000.00 in credit!!!!!!!

I cashed it out and tried another old Bluebird ticket and it gave me over $200,000.00 in credits.  Apparently the TITO is reading the last 8 digits of the bar

code and redeeming the ticket for that amount. These old Bluebird tickets will only work in the Bluebird I think because the voucher limits are too low on the other 2 machines

and it won't issue that many credits on those 2 machines.

Just wondering if anyone else has seen this.

Captain Hook

[Yoeddy1]

Never mind, I've had too many beers. 

Jason

[Bettor Slots]

I just found something unusual  with the TITO I just installed in 3 of my machines. I have a Bluebird, A Reel Touch and An I-Game+

This was discussed earlier in this thread I believe or maybe someone PM'd me..can't remember...anyway.....  Your machine will accept any ticket with the TITO device installed however the credit amount added to the machine will not match the "dollar" amount on the ticket unless the ticket was generated from a machine with the TITO device installed....simple as that.  And you are correct, it is reading the last digits you see on the ticket.  And correct again...the machine will only accept ticket amounts that are within the limits allowed by the machines setup.  

Glad to hear your units have been working fine !!!

I suspect an issue with the bill head.

Jason

In this case not the issue...head is fine.  When reading a ticket that was generated from a machine that does not have the TITO device installed...it creates a serial number....a number that can contain many digits.  So when read by a machine with a TITO device installed....it can credit a very large number or not be accepted since it may exceed the machine limits.

[TheChad]

My unit is working GREAT!

I have a stack of tickets printed out in various incriments, $20, $50, $100, $250, $500, $1,000, $1,500, $2,500!

Just like using cash, except now I don't actually have to have any cash going threw the machine, and if/when the ticket's wear out, I can just print some more!

.. and Jim's customer service is top notch!  What more could one ask for?

-TheChad

[edski]

Okay, so my TITO is working fantastic!

However, I wanted to note because it was discussed earlier in the post that you COULD copy tickets..

I have tried doing this and have been unsucessfull.   I scanned the origional tickets @ 600 DPI, and printed them on premium Inkjet paper.  I then cut them out to the EXACT same size as the orgional ticket.

My paper obviously isn't glossy like the thermal paper, but I didn't think that would matter as it was just going to read the barcode!

Anyway, the ticket goes in, the machine says "Validating ticket" the BV clicks and sputters, then it spits the ticket back out.

I don't believe this to be a problem with the TITO device itself, but rather the BV.   Maybe the paper is too thick?  Maybe it not being glossy is affecting it?

Anyway, the tickets them selves are reusable,  but scanning them and printing them doesn't seem to actually work..

Maybe someone else will figure out a way?  But as of right now I can not get coppied tickets to work!

-TheChad

Just printed some tickets on regular paper, and they work just fine!

You can't use an inkjet, the ink is too transparent.
Use a laser printer and no problems.

Ed

[Nashional]

I've scanned and used copies of tickets from $5 to $500 dollars. Printed on both laser and inkjet printers. Using regular 24lb paper. Works great.

Scanned one ticket, cleaned it up (only really need the bar code), copy and pasted four to a page and clicked print.

[TheChad]

I did use an Inkjet printer..

It just spits the ticket out.

I wonder if it's a setting on the BV that makes it work or not work?

I know when I was going threw the settings there was something that mentioned BV rejection or something like that...

-TheChad

[edski]

I did use an Inkjet printer..

It just spits the ticket out.

I wonder if it's a setting on the BV that makes it work or not work?

I know when I was going threw the settings there was something that mentioned BV rejection or something like that...

-TheChad

Don't use an inkjet, the ink is too transparent.
Use a laser printer and no problems.

[TheChad]

I did use an Inkjet printer..

It just spits the ticket out.

I wonder if it's a setting on the BV that makes it work or not work?

I know when I was going threw the settings there was something that mentioned BV rejection or something like that...

-TheChad

Don't use an inkjet, the ink is too transparent.
Use a laser printer and no problems.

I don't get what you mean by transparent?   I print coupons with barcodes all the time and they scan just fine.

Nashional also said he used an Ink Jet printer and said it worked.

-TheChad

[Captain Hook]

I have 3 machines with TITO working in them and I was wondering if anyone knows the switch settings I need to disable my WBA BV's

from reading CASH. I would like to set them to read tickets only if possible. Any ideas????

Captain Hook.   

[a69mopar]

It is software dependant.  scroll down in the attached file and you will see.

Thanks,
Wayne

[Foster]

WBA -12/13 DIP settings for currency or ticket acceptence
off (0) accept  on (1) reject
1 tickets
2 $1
3 $5
4 $10
5 $20
6 $50
7 $100
8 leave off used to enter various test modes

basically turn on 2-7 and laave 1 and 8 off

[a69mopar]

WBA -12/13 DIP settings for currency or ticket acceptence
off (0) accept  on (1) reject
1 tickets
2 $1
3 $5
4 $10
5 $20
6 $50
7 $100
8 leave off used to enter various test modes

basically turn on 2-7 and laave 1 and 8 off

Foster,
   You should look at the document above.  For the new 024 software, dip 6 enables/disables both $50 and $100.  Dip 7 is for higher security on the $100.  Different software has different settings.

w
Dip Switch Settings
# Dip Switch
1 OFF
Interface selection 024 - All barcode numbers will be transacted with the game machine via
Netplex interface.
1 ON
Interface selection 024B - ID-024B Interface – Barcodes beginning with 00 will be transacted
with the game via Netplex. All other barcode numbers will be transacted directly with an SDSGMU
via second WBA serial port.
2 OFF 1 ENABLE
2 ON 1 DISABLE
3 OFF 5 ENABLE
3 ON 5 DISABLE
4 OFF 10 ENABLE
4 ON 10 DISABLE
5 OFF 20 ENABLE
5 ON 20 DISABLE
6 OFF 50/100 ENABLE
6 ON 50/100 DISABLE
7 OFF 100 Normal Security
7 ON 100 High Security
8 OFF OFF
8 ON TEST MODE

[TheChad]

A single ticket generated from this machine could be used again and again in all of your machines with the same device installed:

Direct answer from the manufacturer as follows:

This is for home use only and the tickets DO NOT die.  So to answer your question a ticket can be used over and over again and copies will work
in machines with the board.  The machine will only accept and record the proper amount of credits from a ticket printed from a machine with a TITO board installed in it.

Jim,

In reguards to this post.  I still have not gotten coppied tickets to work.  Is there a setting or something to make the BV accept/read my coppied tickets?

A different question: I noticed that on the tickets there is a Ticket # that goes up with each ticket printed.  Can this be reset?  I assume this ticket # is not part of the barcode itself?  If it was, wouln't it be possible for the device to only read a Ticket # once, then that ticket # is no longer valid?

Just some thoughts..

P.S. I LOVE my TITO Device!  It works great!  (Though the power adapter is too fat which causes loose connections problems with my Hopper, so I had to run the USB power cord outside the machine untill I can find a lower profile adapter)

-TheChad

[staz]

chad as you see the numbers underneath the bar codes,thats what determines the value of the ticket.... all the tickets with those values will print out the same numbers underneath the bar code.... to make coppies of the tickets you would need a good copying device..... the bar code has to be identcle in order for it to work..... you would be better off buying a pack of blank tickets for 5 bucks and just print them using your printer......

[coorslight115]

Print original, reinsert, cash out, reinsert, cashout....over and over and over....
Tickets are cheap and toner or ink cartridges are not...

[zarobhr]

Print original, reinsert, cash out, reinsert, cashout....over and over and over....
Tickets are cheap and toner or ink cartridges are not...

plus the time it takes to actually cut them up to the proper size

[TheChad]

Print original, reinsert, cash out, reinsert, cashout....over and over and over....
Tickets are cheap and toner or ink cartridges are not...

Yeah, I've already done that..

I think thicker paper would last longer than these thin tickets..  The tickets were never ment to be reused.

-TheChad

[Italian Stallion]

I'm with Coorslight.  That's exactly what I do.  I have short stack of about 10 $100 tickets.  Enough to keep me going for quite some time.

[TheChad]

I'm with Coorslight.  That's exactly what I do.  I have short stack of about 10 $100 tickets.  Enough to keep me going for quite some time.

Yeah, I have 20-$5, 20-$10, 20-$20, 10-$50, 5-$100, 5-$250, 5-$500, 5-$1000, 5-$1,500, & 5-$2500.

That way I don't have to constantly empty my cash can to retrieve the tickets!

Really, with my 2-Coin $0.25 machine, anything over $20 is overkill..   But I'm hoping to get a 3-coin or multi line kit..

-TheChad