145 sg dbv

[john7dee]

bally 5500 upright

having problems with 145 sg dbv, thought it was the side board, not it

checked voltage to terminals:
j2- black-red-blue-white/black=5volts
brown-green-white/black =5volts

j3-white/red-yellow/red=5volts

j1-blue/red=10volts

it does not power up when machine is  turned on

anyone have any ideas

ty
john

[Jim]

John,    a few questions first------ did machine ever work?  is this a new machine for you?   does the rest of the machine work? and just the bill validator is down?  do you know if the validator works ?  can you see any red lights on inside the part where the bill would go? ( I think 145' do this. I know 200's will)  If the machine does work, then that should eliminate the side door switches.  You should be getting 12vdc to run the bill acceptor.  there is a 5500 manual in the submit file on top of page.  there are dip switch settings that could have the bv turned off. JW3  #5 and#6   .    Lets start here and see where we are at.   

Jim

[john7dee]

machine works fine everything works except the dbv, takes nickels just fine
the validator worked before, would  only take 1 dollar bills when it did work

which wire should be getting the 12 volts
i said 10 volts it is probably 12 volts--have an old cheap meter

jw3  #5 is off  #6 is on

does the manual show the validator hook up

ty
john

[Jim]

have a dbv 145 sg in a bally 5500,does not work
i think i found the problem:  there is a board plugged in the side of thedbv  it appears to have shorted out, any one know where i can get this part.

     as-3356-202 rev. B    it has   p1-p2 /  j1-j2-j3-j4-j5   plugs on it   the p1/p2 is the two that plug into the dbv on the left hand side as you are looking at the dbv

thank you
john


If the unit worked and now it doesn't  what caused the board to short???    If the board shorted it could have  taken the bill head with it ?   when you plug that side board into the bill head  it is not keyed so maybe it could of happened when you changed boards???   without another bill validator head to troubleshoot with I don't  know what else I can suggest for you to do!!!  Maybe someone else has other  suggestions.

Thanks   Jim

[jay]

I have "heard" that when the validaor ID is wrong it will only take ones'

Off the top of my head I am not sure if this is a 022/023 setting like on an IGT
or 44/44P on Bally ... but its one quick thing to check.

Regards,

Jay

[john7dee]

jay

i am not sure i know what you mean by 022/023 or a 044/44p, please advise

ty
john

[cfh]

I use DBV145 models all the time and they work
quite well in bally and wms slots. i would use the
latest firmware version though, which is v3.40.
this will accept new colored $20 and other new
money (but won't take new $5 or new gold $10).
but this validator does work well.

If you are not getting the initial power on burps
and gargles, i would check the input power plug.
it sounds like the head is not getting power.
in fact, when you are updating the firmware (which
requires the head to be taken apart), resolder
the power plug connector and the serial connector
to the board. sometimes the connectors' solder joints
crack where they attach to the board. Then update the
firmware (27512). if you don't have the latest v3.40 bally/wms
firmware, email me directly and i'll point you to it.

the really good news about the DBV145 is that it
does take the new colored $20 bill (assuming you are
funning firmware v3.40). And a replacement
head (if you need it) is only $5 to $25. that's a nice
price (compared to other DBV heads.)  Remember you
need a DBV-145 SG or SH model (SS models are for
IGT and have a different communications protocol.)

[jay]

John,

That is the game id.
On IGT Some games require a DBV to be set at protocol 22 while most of the games are potocol 23.
The protocol selection is based on the game you are running.
If you have the protocol set wrong it will only accept 1 dollar bills.

On Bally it was pointed out that there are two settings as well. 44 and 44p. 
I am sure this has to be in the manual for the DBV.

[paul]

Check the dip switches on the validator all should be down  and the last one up for bally  in the first set of switches

[Jim]

have a dbv 145 sg in a bally 5500,does not work
i think i found the problem:  there is a board plugged in the side of thedbv  it appears to have shorted out, any one know where i can get this part.

     as-3356-202 rev. B    it has   p1-p2 /  j1-j2-j3-j4-j5   plugs on it   the p1/p2 is the two that plug into the dbv on the left hand side as you are looking at the dbv

thank you
john


If the unit worked and now it doesn't  what caused the board to short???    If the board shorted it could have  taken the bill head with it ?   when you plug that side board into the bill head  it is not keyed so maybe it could of happened when you changed boards???   without another bill validator head to troubleshoot with I don't  know what else I can suggest for you to do!!!  Maybe someone else has other  suggestions.

Thanks   Jim

PS  did you check that the side board is inserted properly, it can be put in there three different ways  all the way to the left, all the way to the right, and the right way where all the pins match up with the plug.  Its not keyed ,so that can happen.

[Op-Bell]

i said 10 volts it is probably 12 volts--have an old cheap meter

I suggest you borrow a good meter and confirm that. The BV is very particular about its voltage. If it's less than about 11.5 it is held in permanent reset.

[Anthony]

I am also having a problem with a dbv-145-sh. only takes 1s got it to take a 20 a couple times. but now it wont take anything. I checked the dip switches they seem to be in the correct order. Does anybody have any suggestions?

Anthony

[jay]

Clean and calibrate.....

[Anthony]

I did clean still no change. How do I calibrate?

[Jim]

you don't want to know, trust me on this.  Because of  the age and the memory limitations of this unit, you may  want to check into replacing it with a 200 head.  you pick up more bills to be accepted, 4 way acceptence, and these can be calibrated by you .  Its' just my opinion, I think you will be better off.

             jim

[Anthony]

I was thinking the same thing. What are they going for and do you know who has them?

[jdkmunch]

Check with some of the vendors above.   They should have them at reasonable prices.  The last time I looked they were well under $100.

[Anthony]

Hey there, I was able to get a dbv-200 thanks a bunch. Still seem to be having a problem with the cc-62-d coin comparater.
I replaced it as well but it gives me a coin jam close door to reset tilt. I do this and it still says coin jam. Any body know how to correct this?