Bally 2242 problem, shows "tilt" and "3rd coin" and 500000 (UPDATE)

[BR549 Auto Sales]

Just replace a corroded mpu board with a good working one from Barry at Fox Slots, When I turn the game on I am getting the readings: 500000 in the win meter, 3rd coin is flashing and tilt is steady. The reels did not lock up to ready position like they normally do when you turn it on. I have checked my connections and taken off the connectors and re seated them to the mpu and the I/O board. When I press the re set button at the hopper, the win meter showed 500006, then went back to 500000. I pressed the test button and did not get any response. Any idea as to what else I could check?

Thanks,

David

[FOXSSLOTS1]

check your ribbon cable from IO to MPU - you have a bent pin or not installed correctly
 

[BR549 Auto Sales]

Will do, thanks

[BR549 Auto Sales]

I could have had the cable on the bottom of the mpu inserted in the wrong direction. Now when I turn the game on the pull handle solonoid coil and the reel stop coils are all engaging, pressing the test button or the reset button does not change anything. Could I have an issue with the I/O board or possibly a cold solder joint or poor connection somewhere?

Thanks,

David

[FOXSSLOTS1]

so you still have the 500000?  disconnect the ribbon cable and you should still have the 500000 but no chattering of coils.  if no chattering then recheck the ribbon cable connections again.

[BR549 Auto Sales]

No bent pins on either sides of the ribbon cables, could I have a bad cable? I don't see any visible sign of any damage on them and the pins are nice and shiny with no corrosion. I have re seated all connectors and chips on the mpu board. Still no response from the reset button or the test button. Couls it be a problem with that hopper control board? I don't know if it matters or not but this machine has 2 other boards behind the award glass, one is a sound board with a red test switch that when pressed it goes through a series of sound checks, kinda like a Bally pinball squalk and talk, the other board I have no idea as to what it is.

[FOXSSLOTS1]

the 500000 indicates the mpu and io are not communicating.  originally you were getting chattering when you had the ribbon cable on - which indicates cable was installed incorrectly.  You may have an bad IO board - if you have another cable and IO board I would try swapping out.    Also leave the Hopper and Reel mechanism out until issue is resolved.  Lastly make sure you haven't activated the reset key on side of machine or have a coin stuck in the coin switch.

[tkrozleski]

Make sure your ribbon cable is lined up properly and not off one set of pins in the socket. It's hard to see in there sometimes.

[BR549 Auto Sales]

I turned the reset key and turned the game off and back on again and that cleared the tilt and the 3rd coin flashing issue and I was able to go through the tests. When I got to test #5 for the reel readers, I get an "11" in the window. Was able to pass a hopper test, it released 10 coins. Is there any possibility that the 2 boards behind the top award glass could be causing these issues since they too have ribbon cables going to them? If not, could I have a stuck switch somewhere sonce I had the tilt and and 3rd coin light flashing and when I press the reset button, they don't change? I have alos checked all of the fuses with a multimeter and they all checked out fine. I checked the voltages on the power supply at the test points and was getting @ .4 volts below what they should read on all 3 test points. I tried another I/O board from the other machine that I am having trouble with right now and that did not change anythin, so I doubt I have 2 bad I/O boards, but I can't be 100% sure since I don't have a working game to try parts from. So at this point I am still stumped on this.

[FOXSSLOTS1]

i assume you are referring to a sound board?  as the other board with ribbon cable or is this a credit game?  either way disconnect the ribbon cables to those boards and see what happens.

[BR549 Auto Sales]

Back at a dead end again, same problem. 3rd coin light is flashing and tilt light is steady, if I press the reset button it goes off for a second and then goes back to the same thing. I have checked the ribbon cable thoroughly and all pins on both ends of the cable look fine, nothing bent and all of them are shiny with no corrosion. I have also replaced the connector to the power board because it had some discoloration and also replaced each pin on the connector with new ones, plus it does read the correct voltages. I just don't know hat else I can do except order another ribbon cable and another I/O board even though I'm pretty sure this I/O board that I have is fine and the MPU should be fine because it came from Barry at Foxslots. Any other ideas to what else I can try? Is there a way I can check my I/O board with a multimeter?

Dazed and confused and ready to get the ol' bat out.

[BR549 Auto Sales]

Bump, surely someone know something else to try?

[Amachanic]

Does that machine your working on have the progressive jackpot on the top? I read a thread here a while back that had similar problems and it was caused but the progressive system needing to be reset if I remember right? Can you post a pic or two of you machine? I know the I/O has a metal loop like the power supply PCB for testing voltage, but I myself have never had to use it, so I'm not 100% sure what it reads. I'd have to find my manual and look it up.

Gary

[BR549 Auto Sales]

No progressive on the machine but there is a sound board and another board in the top behind the award glass. I will post pics later this afternoon.

Thanks,

David

[tkrozleski]

What is the code in the display?

[tkrozleski]

The ribbon cables are polarized. Are they connected in the proper polarization? There is a red stripe on the ribbon cable for indication.

Try leaving the sound ribbon cable and the small buffer board disconnected from the lower right side of the I/O board and see if this changes anything.

[BR549 Auto Sales]

500000, I did unplug the ribbon cable on the bottom right of the I/O board and nothing changed.

[BR549 Auto Sales]

Here are a few pictures of the area behind the award glass, also I found 4 wires that were not connected to anything. One wire (grey with a white trace), I believe goes to the other side of the solonoid that operates the coin diverter. The other 3 ( 1 grey with a brown trace , 1 grey and 1 brown with a white trace) I have no idea where they go. Also above the same area I have a plain grey wire (which goes down to the coin switch) and an orange wire with a black trace. all of these were wrapped in electrical tape. I'm sure with all of these not being connected properly, could be why I can't clear the machine to play. Pictures below. hopefully this will help with the diagnosis.

Thanks,

David

[BR549 Auto Sales]

more pics

[BR549 Auto Sales]

last two pics

[BR549 Auto Sales]

Saturday bump

[tkrozleski]

Take the hopper & reel assy  out and take some pics of the lower and upper compartments so we can have a look see.

[Amachanic]

 I know it goes right into the tilt after its been reset, but are you able to run any of the machine test 2-8?

Gary

[tkrozleski]

The orange with black stripe & gray wire may have been for the coin mech diverter not needed and won't cause your problem.

The gray with the white stripe near the coin switch i believe goes to the diverter coil, not needed and won't cause your problem.  

The lowest wires, 2 gray & brown with white stripe are for a switch that has been removed. The 2 gray wires should be tied together. The brown with white stripe that used to go to the switch , I do not think it is needed and I don't think that is your problem.

[tkrozleski]

Give this a try, take the sound board  ribbon cable and swap it with the ribbon cable that connects your MPU & I/O boards together and see if that ribbon cable is the problem.