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« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2013, 07:49:58 PM »
Quote from: SLOTMAN on March 07, 2013, 07:47:40 PM
Well now that throws my theory off.  The board you have allows the 16 pin black connector that I can not find a place for.  So maybe it doesn't necessarily mean I have a harness for LED, maybe I just have the wrong backlight controller.

Backlight controller doesn't have anything to do with spinning of reels or errors.  Just backlighting.  So if you have an error, it doesn't matter what connection you have or don't have to the backlight controller.

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« Reply #26 on: March 07, 2013, 08:55:03 PM »
know you have a lot of help on this thread already, but maybe I can interject something here.
First off in the second picture you show a black plug that is 16 pin 8 X 2 and asked where it goes? YES, it plugs into the LED controller on the right hand side where you have nothing plugged into.
The big question that needs to answered is two fold.
a) Do you have and enhanced backplane (motherboard) and CPU? or is the CPU the 502, 504 older style?
b) the other end of the reel harness has a 40 pin connector (20 X 2) and needs to be plugged into the motherboard at the connector REELS 1-5

Post some pictures of the motherboard and connections there. If that plug is not connected you will get the reels disconnected error.
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« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2013, 09:18:59 PM »
Here are a few pictures to help.

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« Reply #28 on: March 07, 2013, 09:20:57 PM »
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« Reply #29 on: March 07, 2013, 09:22:04 PM »
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« Reply #30 on: March 07, 2013, 09:39:24 PM »
Quote from: Neonkiss on March 07, 2013, 08:55:03 PM
know you have a lot of help on this thread already, but maybe I can interject something here.
First off in the second picture you show a black plug that is 16 pin 8 X 2 and asked where it goes? YES, it plugs into the LED controller on the right hand side where you have nothing plugged into.
The big question that needs to answered is two fold.
a) Do you have and enhanced backplane (motherboard) and CPU? or is the CPU the 502, 504 older style?
b) the other end of the reel harness has a 40 pin connector (20 X 2) and needs to be plugged into the motherboard at the connector REELS 1-5

Post some pictures of the motherboard and connections there. If that plug is not connected you will get the reels disconnected error.

The black connector is a 8x2, the receptacle on the backlight controller is a 9x1.  No possible way for mating.
The 20x2 is connected.
The board is a 502 rev. A.
Although I do appreciate the pictures I am not too sure what significance the door has for the reels
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« Reply #31 on: March 07, 2013, 09:41:04 PM »
Sorry Neon, the other pictures came in as I was typing.  Those are very helpful. Thank you.
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« Reply #32 on: March 07, 2013, 09:42:52 PM »
Quote from: cowboygames on March 07, 2013, 03:41:52 PM
Wouldn't matter, those plugs have to do with reel back lighting. Only plug that really matters to make them spin is the big black one that goes to the motherboard. Look at the bundle of wires behind and just to the left of the hopper. If you find a black and a white w/red stripe wire jumpered together, turn machine off, remove that jumper and try starting machine again

Cowboy, there was a jumper exactly as you said and I did remove it.  No change.
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« Reply #33 on: March 07, 2013, 09:52:39 PM »
Well the next question is and I don't know the answer is...

Will a 502 board support a 5 reel configuration?  Scratch Head
All of my 5 reel machines are enhanced.

And as you will figure out the door pictures are to show the new wire harness needed for the new button deck and the addition of the third I/O board.
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« Reply #34 on: March 07, 2013, 09:56:00 PM »
Have you by chance run a clear chip on the machine yet?
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« Reply #35 on: March 07, 2013, 09:56:24 PM »
Quote from: Neonkiss on March 07, 2013, 09:52:39 PM


And as you will figure out the door pictures are to show the new wire harness needed for the new button deck and the addition of the third I/O board.

All of those pictures have been extremely helpful.  Would you mind if when this is all done I use those and create something of a guide?  I believe in giving back for the next person that walks in my shoes.
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« Reply #36 on: March 07, 2013, 09:57:14 PM »
Quote from: cowboygames on March 07, 2013, 09:56:00 PM
Have you by chance run a clear chip on the machine yet?

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« Reply #37 on: March 07, 2013, 10:22:09 PM »
Clear 97 or 224? You're not just changing the theme, you're changing the whole format. I usually install all new components, then clear the machine to give it a fresh start
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« Reply #38 on: March 07, 2013, 10:24:04 PM »
Quote from: Neonkiss on March 07, 2013, 09:52:39 PM
Well the next question is and I don't know the answer is...

Will a 502 board support a 5 reel configuration?  Scratch Head
All of my 5 reel machines are enhanced.

And as you will figure out the door pictures are to show the new wire harness needed for the new button deck and the addition of the third I/O board.

Neon, all my 5 reel machines, including the reel touch games are currently running on 502 and 504 boards
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« Reply #39 on: March 07, 2013, 10:28:27 PM »
I am going to try a 97 (which I need to DIG around to find it) but I have a suspicion there is something wrong between the 40 pin connector and the motherboard.

I learned a long time ago to turn off the power when disconnecting and reconnecting which I have done up to this point but for some reason I didnt turn the power off when I went to plug that jumper back in.  Coincidentally the reel harness was right there and I bumped it.  When I did that I noticed the reels 2-3-4 jog.  

I am going to remove the m-board and see if maybe I need to re-flow some solder joints or I may just move it to another machine.  Unfortunately I have to step away for a few.
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« Reply #40 on: March 08, 2013, 12:04:44 AM »
Cowboy,
Thanks for the clarification on the 502 504 boards.
I didn't know if that was something they were capable of since all of mine are enhanced versions.
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« Reply #41 on: March 08, 2013, 12:13:09 AM »
No problem. I actually have three new 1270/motherboard sets I bought from Glenn that I'll be swapping into 3 of my "keepers" one of these days when I get over the flu and make the time yes
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« Reply #42 on: March 08, 2013, 12:54:40 AM »
Not trying to hijack this thread since I need all of this information for my conversions
I may have some parts to trade slots to get us both going.
can you guys tell me from these pictures if my backlight board and harness is for led or regular bulbs?

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« Reply #43 on: March 08, 2013, 01:07:38 AM »
Regular, the opaque plugs have to may wires for LED and you don't have the dual row black socket on the control board
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« Reply #44 on: March 08, 2013, 01:18:14 AM »
I was afraid of that my reels are led.
Slotman if you want to trade harness and backlight boards PM me
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« Reply #45 on: March 08, 2013, 10:55:21 AM »
Cowboy, so for clarification, if there is a dual row black connector would you say that is typically for LED reels?
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« Reply #46 on: March 08, 2013, 11:05:08 AM »
Qbert, unfortunately I have the LED harness but the standard backlight board.  That I know now thanks to everyones help.
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« Reply #47 on: March 08, 2013, 11:05:36 AM »
Yes, if it has the proper plug for your harness then it's an LED back light control board. Haven't seen it work otherwise anyway. What I'm not sure of is if the LED boards are backward compatible to the standard bulb reels. Can't see why not as they have the proper sockets, but haven't tried it
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« Reply #48 on: March 08, 2013, 11:37:12 AM »
How about the harness?
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« Reply #49 on: March 08, 2013, 11:41:04 AM »
Quote from: cowboygames on March 08, 2013, 11:05:36 AM
Yes, if it has the proper plug for your harness then it's an LED back light control board. Haven't seen it work otherwise anyway. What I'm not sure of is if the LED boards are backward compatible to the standard bulb reels. Can't see why not as they have the proper sockets, but haven't tried it

the controller boards that support LED are backward compatible with standard backlit reels(non led)
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