Help to identify IGT machine

[Jokerpoker]

Hello from New Zealand

I have a Joker Wild machine and would like to ask what model it is as i would like to find a parts/service manual for it.

Photos attached

[jay]

I am pretty sure it's not a PE or PE+
The monitor is too big and there is no sidebar glass.

The unit does not appear to have a bill validator
It might be an older fortune I or fortune Ii as that would be consistent with the vintage.
.
On either the side of the machine or on the glass say IGT, AC or Sigma ?

[Jokerpoker]

Hi Jay,

As far as i know it says IGT Imperial up the top, its definitely an IGT machine, this i do know.

Do i need to post some better pictures?

Dan

[jay]

An inside shot of the system with the door open.
Then a close up shot of one of the system boards.
There may be one or two.

[Jokerpoker]

Hi, Only 1 board

I've attached some pictures of the machine.

I'm also getting an error on another board that i have tried in this same machine.

"Expanded I.O faulty"

any ideas?

[Jokerpoker]

More pics

[Jokerpoker]

Mother board pic

[ROCKET]

super great condition for the machine .

 NOTICE  NO >>ON BOARD BATTERY<<< -USES A DALLAS TIME CLOCK CHIP

main board looks newer than rest of machine .

[Jokerpoker]

Cheers, the machine is in very good condtion, i'm guessing a DALLAS TIME CLOCK CHIP is a good thing haha.

I have another board "Blue moon" which i want to play but it has the error "Expanded I.O Fault" have you any ideas what this good be? do you also know what model i have? i'm guessing its a New Zealand/Australia type of Video Poker.

[ROCKET]

Cheers, the machine is in very good condtion, i'm guessing a DALLAS TIME CLOCK CHIP is a good thing haha.

I have another board "Blue moon" which i want to play but it has the error "Expanded I.O Fault" have you any ideas what this good be? do you also know what model i have? i'm guessing its a New Zealand/Australia type of Video Poker.

I know many on the forum know the exact name of the IGT poker you have .
it looks like the Australia model to me . it just plays one game of poker the green board is not the mother board its the Main Board that plugs into the mother board so you know . i have not read the entire post .just looked at pictures close - on  the main board look for a year of manufacture ? -----1989?--1992  or the board could of been replaced with a newer model  is super clean --plus the chips on the board a close up of the chips that say IGT color white would be>>>> marked and dated <<<<
--XO-- PE--PX -these MRO -MXO-MG0-- they will say something like IGT MXO then a date etc ..

[Jokerpoker]

Cheers, the machine is in very good condtion, i'm guessing a DALLAS TIME CLOCK CHIP is a good thing haha.

I have another board "Blue moon" which i want to play but it has the error "Expanded I.O Fault" have you any ideas what this good be? do you also know what model i have? i'm guessing its a New Zealand/Australia type of Video Poker.

I know many on the forum know the exact name of the IGT poker you have .
it looks like the Australia model to me . it just plays one game of poker the green board is not the mother board its the Main Board that plugs into the mother board so you know . i have not read the entire post .just looked at pictures close - on  the main board look for a year of manufacture ? -----1989?--1992  or the board could of been replaced with a newer model  is super clean --plus the chips on the board a close up of the chips that say IGT color white would be>>>> marked and dated <<<<
--XO-- PE--PX -these MRO -MXO-MG0-- they will say something like IGT MXO then a date etc ..

Can't actually see a date but i can see MRO-MXO-MGO can you tell me more about the functions of these 3 chips? also do you know anything of the error "Expanded I.O Faulty"

[ROCKET]

Goodluck on your machine . as I advise anyone who gets a machine be it slot or poker or multigame or arcade game .
DO WHAT YOUR DOING >>TAKE PILES OF PICTURES OF THE MAIN BOARD << CLOSE UPS .

The inside of machine various points inside where plugs plug into each other etc .. then save the Digital camera simm card and put them on your home P.C. etc  copy down the numbers of the DALLAS CHIP -ITS A BATTERY/CLOCK  -you cant toss in any Dallas chip if yours fails .. as far as the white chips marked IGT  there is a notch on one end -if you pull out the chip or re seat the chip -DONT BEND THE LEGS OF CHIP -and copy down the numbers on them and the positions on board . as far as the notch on any chip when removed it has to be replaced in same position . or you risk data loss if powered up installed backwards .

this is all for reference when you take it apart for a repair and forget where what plug goes or button is put together etc etc you have a picture for reference to go back to . plus its a great way of identification purposes because on a 20 inch computer display you can see things the naked eye cannot ..
Rocket

the white colored chips mro -mxo etc are the game software chips for the joker poker ---OOPS SORRY JOKERS WILD
if thats the game it actually plays right now with the glass thats in it

[Jokerpoker]

Thanks for the advice Rocket.

[ROCKET]

Thanks for the advice Rocket.

no problem glad to of helped .. I gave you a pos Karma a thing we do for each other if they helped you out etc or posted a good article etc Like your pictures of the old poker machine etc -- it realy means nothing some take it personal others dont care ..

welcome aboard NEW LIFE GAMES ..
Now tell us the real story about the machine lol
seriously --its fun to hear how you obtained it ? where your located etc ..
do you have experience on machines ?? the basic .. dont need to know the last time you #@&^%$% lol
do you have other machines or plan on getting more ??
I am being "NOSY"  what did you pay fotr the Jokers wild ?? in U.S. dollar ??

[Jokerpoker]

Excellent i love Karma,

I've been playing around with machines for about 12 years and had numerous games over the years too many to list, currently i only have the Joker wild but i'm building up my collection again with two machines being collected this Sunday. The video poker machine i have now was purchased from an elderly couple that had the dealing speed set to the slowest speed setting, they didnt want the game so i took it off them for 120USD, they did however have 12 other machines to keep them busy in their miniture casino.

[ROCKET]

 
Good deal for 120.00 bucks ..

go back to the old folks home and grab the 12 other machines 
when you have time no hurry -I am just curious post a picture with top award glass out .

 
I would like to see whats behind the top award glass ??
there are no dark blue identification tags from IGT on the inside of cabinet ?
or down on bottom front where the coin tray is facing the machine ??
or on right side facing machine on outside of cabinet . or a spot where 4 rivets were located once ??
you may find a old IGT TAG ID PLATE ETC .. hidden behind the top glass or "SECRET" doccuments lol 

Or stacks of 100.00 U.S. BILLS or other currency ??old people hide there money in strange places ..
if you find anything over 100.00 U.S. DOLLARS   dont forget your old pal "Rocket" lol
50/50 split 
have a great weekend
Rocket

[4 Deuces]

Jay or Knagl is probably going to be the experts here, but I'll take a few guesses.  Based on the picture of the MPU, I believe the chips are as follows:

A = MRO, MBO and MXO, which are the graphic chips.  There should also be an MGO?
B = Is that the MGO chip?
C = The color prom (CAPROM)
D = Game chip (Jokers Wild)

As for the error message, "Expanded I.O Faulty", I'm guessing there is another small board somewhere that is either disconnected or bad.  For example, the MPU board you took out probably pushes into another board behind it (the motherboard).  From the motherboard, there will be cable harnesses that connect to yet another board somewhere else in the machine (probably behind a metal enclosure/casing).  That board may also be a plug-in and may have become slightly ajar and disconnected causing the error.  A gentle pull to remove the board and push to reinsert may solve the problem. 

NOTE: Never do any of this while the power is on.  Always turn off the power and take precaution to avoid static electrical discharge (touch the cabinet first).

Hope these best guesses help!  Congrats on your new baby.   

:Dave

[Forrhouse]

The board looks primitive. I know that it is before their Multi-Star machines which are the equivalent to the US GameKing.  The Multi-Star uses the same MPU, the 035, and later 038 board. The backplane and I/Os  are different though. That being said, it looks like the New Zealand/ Australian equivalent to a PE+.  They do not always use the same stuff as the US  in their different New Zealand/ Australian models.
I believe that after the Multi-Star they came out with what they called the GU-4.  It's the New Zealand/ Australian equivalent to the US  3902 based GameKing, but the board is very different.
Hope this helps.
E~

[jay]

This is not a classic PE board.
Chips are in different spots.
And as you pointed out one of the graphics chips would appear to be missing.
I also don't see a CMOS chip on the board.

[Forrhouse]

Right, definitely not a PE plus board.  What I was meaning was that it is of the same era and probably an  Australian/ New Zealand varient for that market which would be equivalent to the PE+ even though the hardware is different.

E~

[Jokerpoker]

Good deal for 120.00 bucks ..

go back to the old folks home and grab the 12 other machines 
when you have time no hurry -I am just curious post a picture with top award glass out .

 
I would like to see whats behind the top award glass ??
there are no dark blue identification tags from IGT on the inside of cabinet ?
or down on bottom front where the coin tray is facing the machine ??
or on right side facing machine on outside of cabinet . or a spot where 4 rivets were located once ??
you may find a old IGT TAG ID PLATE ETC .. hidden behind the top glass or "SECRET" doccuments lol 

Or stacks of 100.00 U.S. BILLS or other currency ??old people hide there money in strange places ..
if you find anything over 100.00 U.S. DOLLARS   dont forget your old pal "Rocket" lol
50/50 split 
have a great weekend
Rocket

Hi Rocket,

No that i think about it there is 4 holes on the side of the cabinet, seems like the I.d tag has been removed.

I'll take a photo of space in between the award glass tonight, ive had it out before but no treasures unfortunatly

Back to work for me,

[Jokerpoker]

Jay or Knagl is probably going to be the experts here, but I'll take a few guesses.  Based on the picture of the MPU, I believe the chips are as follows:

A = MRO, MBO and MXO, which are the graphic chips.  There should also be an MGO?
B = Is that the MGO chip?
C = The color prom (CAPROM)
D = Game chip (Jokers Wild)

As for the error message, "Expanded I.O Faulty", I'm guessing there is another small board somewhere that is either disconnected or bad.  For example, the MPU board you took out probably pushes into another board behind it (the motherboard).  From the motherboard, there will be cable harnesses that connect to yet another board somewhere else in the machine (probably behind a metal enclosure/casing).  That board may also be a plug-in and may have become slightly ajar and disconnected causing the error.  A gentle pull to remove the board and push to reinsert may solve the problem. 

NOTE: Never do any of this while the power is on.  Always turn off the power and take precaution to avoid static electrical discharge (touch the cabinet first).

Hope these best guesses help!  Congrats on your new baby.   

:Dave

Jay or Knagl is probably going to be the experts here, but I'll take a few guesses.  Based on the picture of the MPU, I believe the chips are as follows:

A = MRO, MBO and MXO, which are the graphic chips.  There should also be an MGO?
B = Is that the MGO chip?
C = The color prom (CAPROM)
D = Game chip (Jokers Wild)

As for the error message, "Expanded I.O Faulty", I'm guessing there is another small board somewhere that is either disconnected or bad.  For example, the MPU board you took out probably pushes into another board behind it (the motherboard).  From the motherboard, there will be cable harnesses that connect to yet another board somewhere else in the machine (probably behind a metal enclosure/casing).  That board may also be a plug-in and may have become slightly ajar and disconnected causing the error.  A gentle pull to remove the board and push to reinsert may solve the problem. 

NOTE: Never do any of this while the power is on.  Always turn off the power and take precaution to avoid static electrical discharge (touch the cabinet first).

Hope these best guesses help!  Congrats on your new baby.   

:Dave

Hi Dave,

Thanks for info i'm start to learn quite alot about my machine and in response, yes there is a MGO chip.

Question: Are the graphic chips specific to each game? or can i put another Game chip in and use the same MPU?

The reason i ask is I have the working Joker poker but i also have 2 extra MPU boards that are the same as the one i've uploaded on this post.

Board # 1 "Bluemoom" has the I.O error when stick it in the Joker wild machine itself so i think maybe the problem lies where one of the cables input into this board?

Board # 2 "Castaway" starts up but just gives me a blurry pink screen? could this be the caprom chip you spoke of?

Cheers

Dan

[Jokerpoker]

The board looks primitive. I know that it is before their Multi-Star machines which are the equivalent to the US GameKing.  The Multi-Star uses the same MPU, the 035, and later 038 board. The backplane and I/Os  are different though. That being said, it looks like the New Zealand/ Australian equivalent to a PE+.  They do not always use the same stuff as the US  in their different New Zealand/ Australian models.
I believe that after the Multi-Star they came out with what they called the GU-4.  It's the New Zealand/ Australian equivalent to the US  3902 based GameKing, but the board is very different.
Hope this helps.
E~

Hi,

I've owned a couple of the GU4's but this is definitly an earlier model, say 1995.

Thanks for your input though.

Dan

[Jokerpoker]

This is not a classic PE board.
Chips are in different spots.
And as you pointed out one of the graphics chips would appear to be missing.
I also don't see a CMOS chip on the board.

Rocket mentioned this board uses a "DALLAS TIME CLOCK CHIP"

[knagl]

Question: Are the graphic chips specific to each game? or can i put another Game chip in and use the same MPU?

If you're going from one poker game to another poker game, chances are good that you can get away with the same graphics chips, since IGT generally put the card graphics in the same memory locations on the chips (and even sometimes had the Joker graphics and "WILD" (for Deuces Wild) stuff in the graphics chips, even if the game didn't call for them.

If you're wanting to put a slot ("pokie") game in, however, then more than likely the graphics chips you have that have playing cards on them will not work as they won't contain the correct images for the slot game.