Bring one back to life ?

[2Nutz]

Picked this up last week as a nonfunctional unit.  Had credits but wouldn't play.  Anyways, found no lock or cam for the cash box door switch and the DBV head to transport harness at the head connection was kind of messed up.  Had to pull the lower board out of the DBV head to re-solder the connection.  Would of been nice if I had the newest DBV 200 ID 024 s/w to load (2.70-11) but another day.  It works, but its tired, kind of like me.  Anyways, looking for PSR info and/or keychip needed for this old boy.  I believe its a 3 series game but don't know.  Shows multi denom on the top glass but didn't see that available in my short time of playing off the credits.

Base: M0000152
GME1 &2: G0000124
PXL1 & 2: C0000074
CG1 & 2: C0000074

I know it's got a 3902 board but thats about all I know.  Got a couple S+ but this is the first GK for me.  Looks like it could be updated to 5.x software with an add-on card (MML - ?) ?

Also the top chrome moulding around the top box is kind of krinkled.  Is it suppose to be a flexible plastic moulding or metal ??

Thanks

[CVslots]

What validator is in it? I believe the DBVs were discontinued before this machine was made? I'm guessing it has a WBA (11,12, or 13) in it. They are much more plentiful to find and easier to upgrade software on.

Anyway, what errors are you getting at the bottom of your screen?


And all I show for that chipset is GameKing III, not sure of game mix.

[4 Deuces]

I would be interested in knowing what games are available on this version.  I've been looking for an older version.

Specifically, what help do you need to get this working?

[2Nutz]

What validator is in it? I believe the DBVs were discontinued before this machine was made? I'm guessing it has a WBA (11,12, or 13) in it. They are much more plentiful to find and easier to upgrade software on.

Anyway, what errors are you getting at the bottom of your screen?

And all I show for that chipset is GameKing III, not sure of game mix.

Positive its a DBV 200, but ID 024.  I've upgraded the DBV 200 heads in my S+ to use eproms before but this has a different ID, so no applicable software in my 'puter.  I know I have a blank chip somewhere, not sure about a socket but thats easy to scrounge up.  The transport seems hit or miss but I think I have an extra under one of the S+'s.

Unit is working now but I was surprised there was nothing indicated such as a Tilt Condition for the BV Door being open.  Lower right corner of the screen showed "Closure MB" I believe.  Didn't pick up on it until going through the diagnostics menu and switch operation.  You can see my temporary fix for the BV door switch in the picture, very bottom of the BV door.  Paper clips come in handy. 

I would be interested in knowing what games are available on this version.  I've been looking for an older version.

Specifically, what help do you need to get this working?

Working now, kind of.  Numerous bulbs inopt, no comparitor, unknown info on the game chip or if multi-denom or not, what keychip I need to get, etc  I can pull what specific game info I can find off the accounting menu I think.  Like the title says, trying to bring one back that appeared to have one foot in the grave.

Not to raise the eyebrows of the software police but, are the Base, Games, PXL & CG eproms able to be backed up for personal archive like the S+ games?     
 

[tacman]

I believe this is a Game King 3.0, the list of games on it is below:

CARDS/POKER – 14 Games
 Jacks or Better Poker
 Bonus Poker
 Bonus Poker Deluxe
 Double Bonus Poker
 Double Double Bonus Poker
 Triple Bonus Poker Plus
 Joker Poker
 Deuces Wild Poker
 Deuces Wild Bonus Poker
 Double Deuces Poker
 Loose Deuce Poker
 ACE$ Bonus Poker
 Shock Wave Poker
 Blackjack
 
SLOTS – 8 Games
 Black Rhino Slot
 Diamond Mine Slot
 Double Bucks Slot
 Lion Fish Slot
 On the Prowl Slot
 Super 8 Line Slot
 Super 8 Race Slot
 Wild Flower Slot
 
KENO – 9 Games
 Keno
 Super Keno
 Super Way Keno
 4-Card Keno
 Caveman Keno
 Triple Diamond Keno
 Top-Bottom Keno
 3-6-9 Way Keno
 2-4-6 Way Keno

Dan (tacman)

[CVslots]

Back-up for personal use is ok. But you know the other rules...

Wow, a DBV200 in a GameKing. ID024 is fine. ID023/024 are both IGT "language".i think S+ was only ID023, if I remember correctly. I'm really surprised its a DBV, but happy to know you are familiar with them!  

Most likely, due to the age, it is not Multi-Denom. Don't bet on it, but dont fret, new chipsets can be found pretty reasonably. We had them for $60-70, GK 4 with 52 game options, ram on 3902 board. No biggie.

Get the kinks worked out of your machine and then think about upgrades. Good job!

[CVslots]

Oh man - that has more of a variety of games than a lot of chipsets! Lots of slot games!

[2Nutz]

I believe this is a Game King 3.0, the list of games on it is below:

CARDS/POKER – 14 Games
 Jacks or Better Poker
 Bonus Poker
 Bonus Poker Deluxe
 Double Bonus Poker
 Double Double Bonus Poker
 Triple Bonus Poker Plus
 Joker Poker
 Deuces Wild Poker
 Deuces Wild Bonus Poker
 Double Deuces Poker
 Loose Deuce Poker
 ACE$ Bonus Poker
 Shock Wave Poker
 Blackjack
 
SLOTS – 8 Games
 Black Rhino Slot
 Diamond Mine Slot
 Double Bucks Slot
 Lion Fish Slot
 On the Prowl Slot
 Super 8 Line Slot
 Super 8 Race Slot
 Wild Flower Slot
 
KENO – 9 Games
 Keno
 Super Keno
 Super Way Keno
 4-Card Keno
 Caveman Keno
 Triple Diamond Keno
 Top-Bottom Keno
 3-6-9 Way Keno
 2-4-6 Way Keno

Dan (tacman)

Wow.  I hope your right.    Didn't think a version 3 game set would have that many slots on it.  Will try to verify tomorrow, otherwise it will be the weekend.

Any suggestions/recommendations on the keychip ?

Thanks

[CVslots]

Key 22 or Key 40. Either should work.

[4 Deuces]

If 22 or 40 give you problems, then key 17, but try the others first.

[2Nutz]

Well, going into the Paytables Test shows:

Keno
Wild Ball Keno

Jacks or Better
Bonus Poker
Double Bonus Poker
Dbl Dbl Bonus Poker
Nevada Bonus Poker
Deuces Wild

Red, White & Blue
Triple Diamond
Super Sevens
Double Bonus Reels
Black Rhino
Super 8 Line

Blackjack
FaceUp Blackjack

No keychip so can't really do much.  Looking through the board here and members download section found a document that indicates for a KG 3902 board with a Red Menu to use a Key00017, for a Blue Menu to use Key00022, and a Key00040 is for an 044 board with a Blue menu, ?  I'm dizzy 

Anyways, have a Red Menu so I ass-u-me it uses a Key00017 ???

Didn't see anything to indicate multi-denom but not sure what I would see if all the games were set to .25 which is what is in the lower right corner of the main display.  10 games displayed.

 

[uniman]

Didn't see anything to indicate multi-denom but not sure what I would see if all the games were set to .25 which is what is in the lower right corner of the main display.  10 games displayed.

 

edited
If multi-denom game, then if you go into MACHINE OPTIONS, GAME SETUP and select a selected game you should see several boxes for 1cent, 5cent, quarter, half-dollar, etc. And since yours is only set to quarters you should see the game in the quarter box only. But the other boxes would be there.
Pic is GameKing 5.0.

[tacman]

Well, I guess its not a GK 3.0. I did find the game list you gave on an old auction listing on Worthpoint but did not give a version designation. It seems 16 games, as listed is its max.

Dan (tacman)

[4 Deuces]

 

I had a feeling this was THE mysterious game I found not too long ago, but no one could identify.  The list above is actually 4.3, but I didn't say anything in case I was wrong.  Your list however is either version 2 or 3 because it's a transition between PE+ and GK.  The RWB and Triple Diamond are carry over's from PE+.

IMHO, you have a rare game set.  If you're interested in selling or trading for a newer game set, let me know.

:Dave

[4 Deuces]

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=20407.msg166152#msg166152

[uniman]

I saw on the Missisippi approved game list that base chip M000150M000152 is GameKing rev 3.

[tacman]

A very knowledgeable member here let me know that version takes a Key 00001. Good Luck.

Dan (tacman)

[uniman]

I saw on the Missisippi approved game list that base chip M000150 is GameKing rev 3.

Sorry, I meant your M0000152, not 150. I will post list shortly.

Here is the site to see the list; http://www.msgamingcommission.com/images/uploads/gl_p_approvedfirmware.pdf

Your base chip is at number 19,800 on the list as GameKing REL 3. Above that several chips back there is KEY0001 for GameKing REL 3. Tacman has it right, key 1 is needed.

[uniman]

A Key17 or other later Key maybe backwards compatible, just not sure.

[2Nutz]

A very knowledgeable member here let me know that version takes a Key 00001. Good Luck.

Dan (tacman)

Holy crap.  A Key 00001 !  I've been reading through this board for the past 4 or 5 days to try and get up to speed on Game King operation.  I think this is the first I've seen mention of a Key 00001.  Good luck, as in finding one ? 

I knew this machine had alot of miles on it but looks like one of the first GK's out of the gate.  Kind of surprised it's got a 3902 board in it.

[SilverFerret]

I saw on the Missisippi approved game list that base chip M000150 is GameKing rev 3.

Sorry, I meant your M0000152, not 150. I will post list shortly.

Here is the site to see the list; http://www.msgamingcommission.com/images/uploads/gl_p_approvedfirmware.pdf

Your base chip is at number 19,800 on the list as GameKing REL 3. Above that several chips back there is KEY0001 for GameKing REL 3. Tacman has it right, key 1 is needed.

Wondering if anyone has the approved firmware lists for Nevada and other states?
Thanks, Jim

[CVslots]

A very knowledgeable member here let me know that version takes a Key 00001. Good Luck.

Dan (tacman)

Holy crap.  A Key 00001 !  I've been reading through this board for the past 4 or 5 days to try and get up to speed on Game King operation.  I think this is the first I've seen mention of a Key 00001.  Good luck, as in finding one ? 

I knew this machine had alot of miles on it but looks like one of the first GK's out of the gate.  Kind of surprised it's got a 3902 board in it.

Maybe that very knowledgable member Tacman mentioned has a Key00001....

[Buzz]

I'm not saying it will or will not work but I've never had a Game King with a Poker game in it that a Key 040 did not work.  Oh and it's BS that a Key040 is for a 044 board. I've never owned a 044 and I use a Key040 all the time.  ( It's the only key chip I use for a Poker game ) As I type this I have 7 machines sitting in my living room that started out in life as Game Kings, true today most of them have  I Game software in them but that changes day to day.  KEY040 for Poker Games, KEY22 for I GAMES, CLEAR97 and KEY31 for S 2000

You said you have a 3902 board, guess what that board doesn't know what year the cabinet was made.

[2Nutz]

 

I'm not saying it will or will not work but I've never had a Game King with a Poker game in it that a Key 040 did not work.  Oh and it's BS that a Key040 is for a 044 board. I've never owned a 044 and I use a Key040 all the time.  ( It's the only key chip I use for a Poker game ) As I type this I have 7 machines sitting in my living room that started out in life as Game Kings, true today most of them have  I Game software in them but that changes day to day.  KEY040 for Poker Games, KEY22 for I GAMES, CLEAR97 and KEY31 for S 2000

You said you have a 3902 board, guess what that board doesn't know what year the cabinet was made.

Since I'm a Noobie on a G/K, I believe you.  I don't know any different.  Hell, I'm still working on walking and chewing gum at the same time without falling down      

Just trying to figure out the quickest, easiest way without having to get one keychip, then another, then another.  Being I'm on the left coast and 25 year state, parts are not plentiful here for a G/K.  Since this is such an older chip set ("Mysterious and Rare" as 4 Deuces said) sounds like no one has had any direct interaction with this specific chipset to confirm one way or another.  I'm on it. 

[CVslots]

You're about 1.5 or 2 hours from us. Let me know if you need anything. Priority Mail only takes 1 day from here to there.