Converting button bulbs to LED's

[stayouttadabunker]

I remember a thread a few weeks ago about those movie/photographers light can filters...
Nice job with those buttons Buzz! They look really good! 
Certainly a lot less work and way cheaper than what I did....

[tacman]

Hey Buzz, looks good and the color you picked makes it pop! Did you use just one square per button or did you do multiple layers?

 Dan (tacman)

[Buzz]

Dan  those in the GK are  one layer  but it would depend on the shade of film and the shade you were trying to achieve best thing you get tired of one color it's pretty easy to change.  I suppose on gay pride day you could change to hot pink and show your support. something tells me I shouldn't have said that!!!   If they can't take a joke to hell with them.   Back to the subject I took a large Max Bet button legend and colored the lower side Red (it was all I had )  with a felt pen and it also worked pretty good.  and then just for grins I tryed to remove the red ink with acetone.  Acetone and plastic don't like each other Buzz

[tacman]

  Were you able to salvage the legend?

 Dan (tacman)

[Buzz]

  It just started to get a little soft. so I stopped and it's OK.  Dan this is the Truth  I was working with red ink.  Its now kind of PINK   Buzz

[brichter]

That explains the LGBT comment, you're the first one on the block!

[Buzz]

bricher  ha  I was talking to Stat when I saw your post, he had to explane it to me   I don't live on that block  Buzz

[stayouttadabunker]

nevermind............      I don't wanna get in on this!!!   lol




Okay, I will....lol....I  wanted to say..."so brichter, you live in the neighborhood???"







(Oh man, I'm in trouble now.....I gotta learn to keep my big mouth shut...... )

It's really amazing how a conversation can (degrade) go from light bulbs to this.....lol


I'm just ribbing guys....

[5 ACES]

I'm not sure what the voltages are for these...
I know one thing...if the S2000 needs more voltage, then these will be too dim.
However, if the S2000 uses less voltage bulbs, then these will probably burn out...
All I can say for sure is that they are the right ones for an S+ machine.
Secondly, in the photo below, the bulbs are just a touch too big for the button holes.
I used a 150 grit sandpaper and made them just a touch smaller so they buttons work smoothly.
You can also use a good sharp Exacto knife and trim the hole in the button plunger just a touch larger as well.
you will see exactly where I sanded a little on the bulbs to make them fit well. (Look at the white LED)
Finally, for some unknown reason,
the company that puts these bulbs together (They have 3 LED lights on them)
doesn't bend the contact wires the same way for every bulb.
The wire coming out of the printed side of the bulb must exit the socket and
run down the left side of every bulb in order to make contact inside the light socket of a button contact.
I don't understand why the irregularities of the contact wires,
 but it's easy to pull up and bend them over onto the left sides easily enough.
The reason the contact wires of the bulbs must run on the left side? LEDs are one way diodes really.
They do not work when installed backwards....if you put a bulb in and it doesn't work, chances are that it's backwards or the wires are coming out on the right side and not contacting the button socket's contacts.
By the way, you won't burn them if they're backwards, they just won't light up...
Click on the photo to enlarge and you'll see it clearer and you'll also notice that the wires are not exiting the bulbs on the same side.
Nuts huh?, and this photo was taken directly from the website too.....lol
The orange,  blue, and green bulbs have the wires coming out the wrong side...lol   

I just installed these and they look awesome! With the instructions from stayouttadabunker, you can't mess up. You do indeed have to sand the edges of the bulb, or they end up getting stuck inside the button and you need to pull them out with needle nose pliers. Also, as stayouttadabunker points out, both tiny wires coming out of the bulb need to both be put on one side of the bulb. After a little work over, the bulbs are bright and really stand out. These are definitely worth it!!

[stayouttadabunker]

I am so happy you like it!
Now you know what I meant about sanding the shells of the bulbs to fit in the button holes....
Bright too, huh!

[5 ACES]

I am so happy you like it!
Now you know what I meant about sanding the shells of the bulbs to fit in the button holes....
Bright too, huh!

Like night and day compared to the regular bulbs! I put them in exactly as you did in your machine and they look so cool. The only two grips I have is the yellow bulb makes the button look like an old wore out brown, kind of looks like my new button is actually 10 years old with a regular bulb in it. The second is my slot machine was either never wired to have the change button come on, or someone took out the wires that went to it, because the two connections that go to the bulb portion of that button are non-existant. The top candle works though when you hit the change button. Other than a little sanding and popping over one of the wires on the bulb, it was the best $13.00 I have ever spent on my machine so far!! Thanks again stayouttadabunker for the link to buy them and the tips on installing them!! K+

[StatFreak]

IGT didn't install wiring for the change button light in the S+. I guess they didn't want to spend the 50 cents.

[5 ACES]

IGT didn't install wiring for the change button light in the S+. I guess they didn't want to spend the 50 cents.

LOL!! Are you serious?? Can it be done, or is it a pain in the A**???

[stayouttadabunker]

Two small electrical vinyl insulated connectors (I think Radio Shack for instance still sells them or Lowes)
See photo>>
And some #18 or #20 gauge wire.
Expose about 1/4" of wire and tin the wire with some solder
to stiffen the ends and keep 'em from fraying if you can.
A good source of power could easily come from
a little black 6-pin molex connector coming out of the door harness right under the change light.
Stick one end into the little black 6-pin receptor molex where the Light Blue wire is going into it.
Stick the other wire in where the Grey w/yellow stripe wire is going into it also.
Tape it up with some electrical tape so they don't come out on ya.
(That's a molex for the light shadow box on 3 or 5 line reel glasses.)
The bulb or LED will be on constant 6.3V power but won't affect the switch for the change light.

Wire colors coming out of the little black 6-pin molex are usually:
Light Blue
Grey w/brown stripe
Grey w/orange stripe
Grey w/green stripe
Grey w/yellow stripe
Grey w/ red stripe.

Use the Light Blue and the grey w/yellow stripe for you change light bulb connections!
Those put out 6.3V and is good enough for a #259 bulb or your LEDs!

Click on photo to make it larger and clearer!>>
 

[5 ACES]

Two small electrical vinyl insulated connectors (I think Radio Shack for instance still sells them or Lowes)
See photo>>
And some #18 or #20 gauge wire.
Expose about 1/4" of wire and tin the wire with some solder
to stiffen the ends and keep 'em from fraying if you can.
A good source of power could easily come from
a little black 6-pin molex connector coming out of the door harness right under the change light.
Stick one end into the little black 6-pin receptor molex where the Light Blue wire is going into it.
Stick the other wire in where the Grey w/yellow stripe wire is going into it also.
Tape it up with some electrical tape so they don't come out on ya.
(That's a molex for the light shadow box on 3 or 5 line reel glasses.)
The bulb or LED will be on constant 6.3V power but won't affect the switch for the change light.

Wire colors coming out of the little black 6-pin molex are usually:
Light Blue
Grey w/brown stripe
Grey w/orange stripe
Grey w/green stripe
Grey w/yellow stripe
Grey w/ red stripe.

Use the Light Blue and the grey w/yellow stripe for you change light bulb connections!
Those put out 6.3V and is good enough for a #259 bulb or your LEDs!

Click on photo to make it larger and clearer!>>
 

stayouttadabunker, THE THINGS YOU KNOW!! Thanks for info and pic. I'll venture to do that next! Thanks again!!!

[stayouttadabunker]

Thanks for the compliment, 5Aces....but really, I learned everything from NLG.net....lol
Plus, I fool around with my machine a lot to find out what makes it tick too...

I never bought the yellow LEDs though...
 was afraid they would make the legends look old...
which is what I was trying to stay away from!!!

[knagl]

IGT didn't install wiring for the change button light in the S+. I guess they didn't want to spend the 50 cents.

...but, oddly enough, they DID install wiring for it on the slant top version of the S+.   

[stayouttadabunker]

Knagl,
On the Slant version, how is the change light hooked up?

[knagl]

I can't swear to it, but I think it's tied in-line with change light in the candle.  I remember having this conversation on the old site -- I'm pretty sure I remember it being discussed that it could be done that way with an upright, but that the slants already had them wired in.  That matches with my memory of a friend who used to have a slant and his change light lit up.

[stayouttadabunker]

The way I have it hooked up is:  The bulb or LED is ON while the machine is ON....
Tomorrow, I'll figure out how to hook it up so it comes on when the candle is on...
But what I really wanna do is make it FLASH! when the machine goes into "hand-pay" mode.... 

[jay]

If you set your machine to ring on all pays....... and use the voltage from the bell feed you could trigger all sorts of events...... you can then back off on the ring on all pays and it will just ring when you go into hand pay.

[jay]

just thinking about this some more you could even use a relay to close a contact.....
You could then strip down one of those hallmark cards that either have music or perhaps record your own voice.....
Imagine hearing "WINNER WINNER - Chicken Dinner" ( quote from "21" the movie).

[Buzz]

Mark    I think just a  short jumper wire from the hot wire going to candle to the button light bulb will make the button flash when candle flashes. Does the candle flash on a hand pay?? Buzz

[stayouttadabunker]

yes,
The candle flashes but not the buttons...
Might try the jumper....but I like the hallmark card idea too....lol

[Buzz]

SOB   With the jumper, the button light will flash with the candle, now go down to Homedepot and get a door chime ( bell ) I think they are 12 V,  are if you like I have some Jack Pot bells I can send you one. Splice this into the hot candle wire and hook all this up to  Frankenstine Mamma then share a Video with all of us!!!  Buzz