New(b) owner of Dbl Diamond & need help!!!

[IamTek7]

Hey guys (& gals),

I just snagged a IGT Double Diamond (unsure what type) and although it powered up when purchased, I kinda knew there had to be some issues with it...

Low & behold after getting it home and starting to check it out, first thing I noticed was a 'missing' fuse and some bare/hanging wire on door (bill validator is missing and plugged on door?).

The machine powered up, but only lights lit, no reel spin etc..  Was able to get reels to spin manually and they would continue to spin.

No errors encountered on front panels other than an occassional "0", "3" or "7", but this was random when powering up.

Read this site all day to see what i may be getting into thinking Power Supply, the burnt connector etc..

I stopped & got some fuses and then pulled off the panel w/the mobo from rear of the machine and WOW!

Blown cap (pop off board) and possibly blown power pack...??

I have numerous pictures I'll attach but am hoping you guys/gals can help me out!

Wife is thrilled (seriously she is, it's one of her fav's at the casino's) but bummed its not already working.

Can you help me out??

Need to know if I can get the blown/broken parts or should i get a new board, also can I add a bill validator to this?

Although this is my first 'American' slot, (I have a pachislo but have graduated to 'THIS"  ) I have a feeling this is going to become a new habit...er... Hobby!!

I'm attaching the first 2 pics of the mobo (blown cap & power) and will add the others shortly.

Thanks in advance...
Jim

[IamTek7]

Additional pics for this topic in question...

Pic of machine

and

inside pic w/Hopper & Mobo removed

[IamTek7]

More Pics...

Game & Reel chips

And

Bare wires inside door


If there is any info you need to assist me in this, let me know...

[gposing]

You have and S+ slot machine.   You can't do much until that main board gets fixed or replaced.  Also I would make sure the power supply is good before moving on.

[gposing]

S+ main CPU board about $25.00 plus shipping

[Neonkiss]

Coin compairator is for large coin, Dollars.
you will need one for small coin, Quarters, Nickels...
Should be a CC16-D and you will need a now wire harness to the compairator. That's the wires they have twisted together in your picture.

[IamTek7]

OK. New MPU it will be.  But from what I see on the vendors on main page here is a new S+ for $25 but does not have the transformer.  On ebay, they are $70, 80, 90...  I did find one for $40 w/transformer but am unsure if this is what I need.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IGT-MPU-Board-for-S-Plus-Machine-Newest-version-Part-75509800-LIMITED-OFFER-/130928186401

I called a 'local' slot business about 1 hr from here and they wanted $125/175 for new board and wanted me to leave the machine for them to go over it.

I'm a 'techie' and can do the work, just need guidance on specific parts.

Gposing.. How do i test that?  All I know is the top Fuse was absent when I got it...

NeonKiss..  Thanks for pointing that out.  But can you point me in the right direction for these parts.

For the price I paid for this machine, Im OK with putting some $ into getting it right, I just dont want to be getting the wrong parts or ripped off and want to do this right & learn.  Like I said in first post, I know me and can see me owning more shortly but want to get a feel/grip on the first one and appreciate everyones help!

[gposing]

The board I found for $25.00 did not have the transformer.  Here is the one I found:  http://rudysdeals.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=89&product_id=2292

[cowboygames]

I would place a WTB (wanted to buy) ad in the classifieds here on the site and ask for a 10mgz MPU, CC16D coin comparator and a new pigtail for the comparator/optics. Would also be wise to check your hopper and see what size coin it is set up for. Where the machine has a 25 cent decal in the window you might get lucky and have a correct hopper for quarters. If not then you'll have to change some parts on that also. As far as the bill validator, yes, you can ad one, but I'd get the machine working on coins first, then tackle the BV issue. When you get the MPU I would also suggest getting a programming chip for it as you will need it to set up denomination and such

[gposing]

good point on the hopper.  I also agree to worry about the BV right now.

[IamTek7]

Again,

Thanks for the info.  I will post in the WTB for that.  How do I tell about the hopper.

Sorry for all the ??'s but am trying to learn.  Have no issue doing my research but there are sooo damn many variables that my head is spinning (unlike my reals).. LOL

[Neonkiss]

Post a picture of the inside of your hopper.
The hopper wheel has a smaller shelf wheel. This is where the coin will ride on top as the hopper turns. Place a quarter on the shelf wheel when you take the picture and we can see where it sits. Naturally if you have a dollar shelf wheel a quarter will sit too low and will not be picked up by the knife that scoops the coins off the shelf as the wheel turns.

Also if you can post bigger pictures. We can't see a lot of the detail in those small pictures.

[IamTek7]

i was hesitant on posting full size pics...

They're coming...

Also, just found bare wires under pull arm on inside right...

[Neonkiss]

The green and green/blue wires are from the door switch on the cash can.
Since you don't have a bill validator, you can just connect them and insulate the ends with heat shrink or electrical tape.

If those are quarters in the hopper bowl, they look correct.

[IamTek7]

yes.. Quarters there. No flash on tablet.

More pics

[IamTek7]

Pic of coin mech.

[IamTek7]

If there is a specific pic needed please let me know

[IamTek7]

Mobo

[Neonkiss]

With all that corrosion around the transformer on the MPU, I would like to see where all that dripped on the motherboard in the back of the machine. It should have a transparent plastic cover to prevent such a mess, but it may have leaked under the cover.

[Neonkiss]

I just enlarged that picture where you have the tray removed and can see the plastic cover over the motherboard.
Now for the bad news.
Take some good pictures of where all those connectors are attached to the motherboard. Not for us, but for you. You will need them when you reinstall that motherboard. Yup, your going to have to pull that one up.

Remove the connectors and the three screws holding it down. Then gently with the blade from a flat head screwdriver lift up each corner by where the pin holder is on each corner. Then the motherboard will come up.
Look for loose coins underneath  and show us how bad the motherboard looks.

I can also see that someone has tried to remove corrosion from the cabinet and has spray painted the insides gray. They did a piss poor job and got over spray on all the wiring. Mechanically, the paint on the wiring is not doing any harm, it's just a key indicator as to who had this machine last and what else they may have done.

[Neonkiss]

One more thing I noticed, after I enlarged the other picture where you said the cap had exploded, I noticed that's not a capacitor.
That was the battery. It leaked and that's what ran down the MPU and corroded the motherboard.

Shopping list:
1) MPU with battery and tray 10 mHz
2) Coin Compairator
3) Coin compairator wire harness.
TBD... Motherboard.


And here is the page from the Game Bible for your machine.
http://www.newlifegames.net/igtbible/IGT%203CM/Game%20Library%20-%20S-Plus%20-%20Double%20Diamond%20(3%20Coin%20Multiplier).htm
We can't tell what SS chip you currently have, but I can get you a 98% chip. You can PM me as I should have all the other parts that you need for that machine.

[mah]

Hey guys (& gals),

I just snagged a IGT Double Diamond (unsure what type) and although it powered up when purchased, I kinda knew there had to be some issues with it...

Low & behold after getting it home and starting to check it out, first thing I noticed was a 'missing' fuse and some bare/hanging wire on door (bill validator is missing and plugged on door?).

The machine powered up, but only lights lit, no reel spin etc..  Was able to get reels to spin manually and they would continue to spin.

No errors encountered on front panels other than an occassional "0", "3" or "7", but this was random when powering up.

Read this site all day to see what i may be getting into thinking Power Supply, the burnt connector etc..

I stopped & got some fuses and then pulled off the panel w/the mobo from rear of the machine and WOW!

Blown cap (pop off board) and possibly blown power pack...??

I have numerous pictures I'll attach but am hoping you guys/gals can help me out!

Wife is thrilled (seriously she is, it's one of her fav's at the casino's) but bummed its not already working.

Can you help me out??

Need to know if I can get the blown/broken parts or should i get a new board, also can I add a bill validator to this?

Although this is my first 'American' slot, (I have a pachislo but have graduated to 'THIS"  ) I have a feeling this is going to become a new habit...er... Hobby!!

I'm attaching the first 2 pics of the mobo (blown cap & power) and will add the others shortly.

Thanks in advance...
Jim

Not sure where your located or the history of the machine, but all signs point to the machine originating from Mid Ohio Slots.
They warranty there machines for life - "AT MID OHIO SLOT MACHINES WE ARE CONFIDENT IN WHAT WE DO.
YOU WILL NOTICE THAT WE ARE THE ONLY COMPANY THAT GIVES A FULL
LIFE-TIME WARRANTY. (check out our S+ parts department).

Note the 2137 placard over the bill acceptor opening.  Many of their machines have that identical placard and they remove the bill acceptors from the machines.

Might be worth a try giving them a call to see if they will help.  Does the person you got it from have a receipt?

[CVslots]

Go Neon and mah! Nailing this one! 

[knagl]

Indeed, where'd you get this one from?

We'll be able to help you get it up and running, but it's gonna take some time and money and parts.  It has every indication that it was sitting in and partially submerged under water.

I agree with the helpful replies you have gotten so far -- you'll need a new upright motherboard, MPU board, and likely a new MPU transformer/tray as well.

As Neonkiss posted above, the yellow/purple/black wires should be going to the coin comparator.  Make sure you get a S+ harness when you order a replacement (small coin) comparator.

The small black plug near those wires just goes to the bill validator bezel (the plastic entry plate) to provide power to the lights that light up when the validator is enabled -- no need to worry about those just now.

Please order your stuff from the vendors who frequent the Classifieds section and/or have a banner ad on the front page of http://www.newlifegames.net/ -- these folks have earned the trust and respect of the community here, and will not screw you over when it comes to the parts you buy.

Good luck!  We'll help you along the way, but it's going to be a little bit of a project with some steps forward and some possible snags along the way.  You will eventually get it up and running with our help though, I'm sure.

[Ron (r273)]

Another tip on the motherboard. Two connectors are the same, so
beware they don't get switched (Sorry for the side ways pic).

Ron(r273)