Bally 847 Continental Restoration

[Karliesdad88]

Thank you! I found the tilt and put a piece of tape like you said but unfortunately it still says tilt :/(.  Maybe I did something wrong or there's another issue. It has to be connected to the feature unit because when the feature unit is not plugged in it doesn't say tilt.

[Karliesdad88]

Maybe the contacts have to stay connected? I put the tape in between the contacs to keep them seperated. I will try taping them together also in a little bit.

[Amachanic]

Maybe the contacts have to stay connected? I put the tape in between the contacs to keep them seperated. I will try taping them together also in a little bit.

More Likely there is a relay that's stuck closed.. Once the slam or tilt switch closes I would beleave it trips another coil closing a set of contacts. That lights your tilt bulb until the next coins played.. Look at your feature board and see if any of those relays are marked tilt. At least that's what I would be looking for.

Gary

[Karliesdad88]

Ok thanks. I keep playing with it nothing has worked yet. I'm going to clean all the contacts on the feature board soon as my burnishing tool gets here. Maybe one of the plastic wheels isn't set correctly. When I put a coin in it isn't engaging the handle which is probably because its on tilt.

[OldReno]

Yes perhaps they should be together. Sorry my error...   Cannot tell from photo.
Should have tilt reset button on upper right side of case when door is open just above handle box a silver push button?

[Karliesdad88]

I tried putting them together also. Maybe because there is only a few coins in there also. When I get home later ill try putting more coins in and taping them together and pushing the reset. Hopefully it will do the trick. Thanks for the help!

[OldReno]

You should be able to figure out its normal state.  When you bang the machine, the weight moves, and causes a tilt by either making or breaking a circuit. 
If the hopper runs out of coins, it should just time out the machine and black it out, so I doubt that is your tilt problem.  But I could be wrong.

[Karliesdad88]

Crap. Ill keep messing with it it may take a while but eventually hopefully something will give. I tried both ways (connection taped together and apart) one of the plastic wheels, the one next to the line of coils, does not move when using the machine. I'm not sure which one it is because the sticker is missing ill refer to the manual and figure out which one it is and try to determine what the proper start position is. Something is probably out of adjustment.

[Amachanic]

Did you hit a jackpot or a payout and not have enough coins in the machine? What OldReno is saying is that the safety time may need the be reset.. It's behind the hopper and most machines have a flat bar lever running under the hopper you push to reset it without removing the hopper. Your machine will time out if they run out of coins. Check that and let us know.
Gary

[Karliesdad88]

I've never hit a jackpot or any payout. I tried pushing the reset your talking about a few times already also the silver button on the right. When the feature unit is unplugged the tilt doesn't light up so I'm guessing it has to be something with the feature unit. I'm hoping once this goes away the machine will work. It has come a long way already from when I got it. I'm going to do the gold paint on both my machines soon while still continuing to try and fix this tilt problem.

[Amachanic]

The safety time is right behind the hopper. It has a red light that lights up when the timer has timed out.

Gary

[Karliesdad88]

Yes I know which one your talking about mine has the bar on it so you don't have to reach all the way back. I've pushed it a few times although the light has never came on.

[Karliesdad88]

Mr. Reno, it seems to make more sense the way you first explained putting tape between the contacts but both ways haven't done the trick so I'm going to leave the tilt with tape separating the contacts as you said. Unless you believe they're the other way. I have no experience but I was playing with the switches alot now and can't wait for my burnishing tool and contact adjuster hopefully soon. Thanks for all the help you guys. Amy input is greatly appreciated.

[Karliesdad88]

I noticed the odds motor unit arcs when it's going is this common?

[Karliesdad88]

This unit is not labeled. But I'm not sure if this is the proper adjustment for it either I am going to try the manual to see if there's anything.

[Karliesdad88]

After doing some more dicking around(hello Reno) I discovered I am missing something. Parts #23&24

[Karliesdad88]

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[Karliesdad88]

I figured this out by inspecting the coin mechanism on both machines. It really helps having a working machine next to this one.

[Karliesdad88]

I meant parts 24&25

[Karliesdad88]

I found the lockout armature assembly on eBay from foxsslots. That's wonderful. Could this missing apart be affecting the tilt issue and the step up unit not working? I hope it solves these problems. I found another thread where they were missing there's also but only function that was mentioned was rejecting wrong coins.

[Amachanic]

I found the lockout armature assembly on eBay from foxsslots. That's wonderful. Could this missing apart be affecting the tilt issue and the step up unit not working? I hope it solves these problems. I found another thread where they were missing there's also but only function that was mentioned was rejecting wrong coins.

Those part are for rejecting coins. They won't help with your other issues.. What happens is that with your 742 after you insert the single coin, since that one only uses one at a time, that then will reject any other coins back to the outside coin tray. They keep you from playing extra coins that your not getting credit for. In the Continental it would do the same after the 6th was inserted. You find these missing alot because they tend to make a loud buzzying sound. Hope that helps..

Gary

[Karliesdad88]

That's unfortunate I was hoping this would solve my tilt issue. It's not letting me off easy. Thanks for the explanation Gary.

[OldReno]

Could not upload my last post, will try it again.
Look in the top unit for a tilt relay.  The tilt switch (slam) should turn it off, and pushing the silver reset button by the handle should turn it back on.  As best I recall....  
You should find a wire in the switches on the relay there that is the same color as the wire to your Tilt Light....

[Karliesdad88]

I will look in the manual to see what tilt relay looks like. There's the unit with the weight on it which I blocked the contacts with tape. I haven't been able to find a manual for the feature unit for this 847 machine. Mine has the other models feature units showing every part. I have been examining the feature unit looking for anything that says tilt but no luck. Some of the labels are missing on a few parts. If I had the continental manual things would be a lot easier. I will look for the wires that are the same color as the tilt light thanks for the good tips!

[OldReno]

Your slam switch (tilt weight) should go to the relay in question.  Follow the wire color from the weight and see where it goes.  It should go to a relay in the top unit, and that should be your tilt relay.  Looks like a normal relay, a coil, and armature, and a few switches on it.
You should be able to push down the armature of the relay and see that the tilt light goes out when you push it.
BTW, I don't know that there is a continental manual.  I don't think I've ever seen one.  Let me know if you find one.