Bally 847 Continental Restoration

[Karliesdad88]

Actually it's the 500 supplemental manual below. This is a list I found of all the manuals.


Bally Slotmachine Service Instructions and Parts Catalogs

-An Introduction To BALLY Slot Machines 1979

-Field Service : BALLY Electro Mechanical Slot Machine Preventive Maintenance Guide , Bally Slots Giving you a handle on profits ( edited by Wilms Distributing )

-Manual # 200 : Gold Award Series , Model 759B , 759C , 759E , 759F , 759G , 759H , 759K ,776 , Jolly Joker , Model 773 , Super Jolly Taverner , Models 780 , 780A , Penny Belle , Model 782 , Penny Star , Model 801 , Sir Prize , Models 783 , 783A

-Manual # 300 : 3 Reel Upright Slot Machines

-Manual # 400 : Basic Standard , Model 742A , Money Honey , Model 742A-1G , Quick Draw, Model 802 , Reel Deal , Model 816 , Double Up , Model 808B , 5 Coin Multiple , Model 809B , 3 Line Pay , Model 831F

-Manual # 400 Supplement : 5 Line Pay , Model 873 , Motorized Automatic , Model 794 , Side by Side , Model 791 , Progressive Jackpot , Model 785 , Electric Door Lock , Kit K318

-Manual # 500 Supplement : Bonus Continental , Model 847-2 Slot Machine

-Manual # 600 : Windsor Castle , Model 837 , Las Vegas , Model 842 , Golden Crown , Model 843/A , Lucky Draw , Model 844 , Reel Deal , Model 845 , Treasure Chest , Model 851/A , Duck Shoot Swedish Models , Model 859/A

-Manual # 700 : Lucky Joker , Model 784 , Magic Star , Model 784-1 , Lucky Joker ( Modified ), Model 784-2

-Manual # 1100 : Arrow Line , Model 883 , Arrow Line , Model 883-1 , 3 Line Progressive , Model 889 , Super Continental , Model 889 , Super Continental , Model 889-1 , Super Continental , Model 889-2 , Super Continental , Model 889-3 , Super Continental , Model 889-4 , Super Line , Model 892 , Super Line , Model 892-1 , Super Line , Model 892-2SD , Bonus Line , Model 902 , Bonus Line-Lightning , Model 902-1 , Bonus Line , Model 902-2

-Manual # 1100 Supplement : Lucky Bars Continental , Model 910 Series Slotmachine

-Manual # 1900 Swedish Slotmachines : Poker , Model 856 , 5 Coin Multiple , Model 861 , The Kronor , Model 878 , 5 Line Pay , Model 888 , Mustang , Model 918 , Circus , Model 928

-Manual # 2200 Danish Slotmachines : Standard Series , Model 742 , Quick Draw , Model 802 , Big Apple , Model 804 , Reel Deal , Model 816 , Fire Dance , Model 869 , Mustang , Model 903 , Circus , Model 931 , Rhino , Model 946

-Manual # 2300 Australian Slotmachines ( Complementary Copy ) : ALL AUSTRALIAN MODELS

-Manual # 2400 : ALL STANDARD 3 REEL MODELS

-Manual # 2600 : Covering ALL 3 , 4 & 5 reel Slotmachine Models , Standard & Console

-Manual # 2601 Supplement : Hopper AS 3105

-Manual # 2800 : Big Barrel 3 reel console Slotmachine , Service & Operating instructions

-Manual # 4900 Danish : Las Vegas , Game 1039-2

-Manual # 5000 : DOLLAR Slotmachines , covering High Capacity Dollar Lowboy , 3 Reel Intermediate & 3 Wide Reel Games

-Manual # 7000 : Electronic Slotmachines Parts Catalog , Models E-1208 , E-1209 , E1212 , E1213

-SERIES E

-Manual # 7010 : Parts Catalog , Models E-1088 & E-1090

-Manual # 7010 : Parts Catalog , Models E-1214 & E-1216

-Manual # 7050 : Parts Catalog , Models E-1202 & E-1203

-Manual # 7060 : Parts Catalog , Models E-1234 & E-1235 & E-1236

-Manual # 7070 : Parts Catalog , Australian Models

-Manual # 7125 : Basic Service , Adjustment and Lubrication Procedures MILITARY MODELS

-Manual # 7150 : Basic Service , Adjustment and Lubrication Procedures

-Manual # 7150 issue 2 : Basic Service , Adjustment and Lubrication Procedures

-Manual # 7200 : 2000 Series , Wide Cabinet Models with High Volume Hopper Unit

-Manual # 7210 : 2000 Series , Low Boy , Regular & ext. Bottom , Intermediate Cabinet Models with Low or intermediate Volume Hopper Unit

-Manual # 7220 : 2000 Series , Narrow Cabinet Models with Regular Volume Hopper Unit

-Manual FO-650 Revised issue 3 : Operator instructions Manual

-Manual FO-650-1 issue 2 : Series E , MPU Boars Test Station Operator Guide and Test Procedures ( AS-2978-3 MPU Board Assembly )

-Manual FO-650-2 issue 2 : Series E , Peripheral Test Station Operator Guide and Test Procedures

-Manual FO-650-3 : Series E , MPU Boars Test Station Operator Guide and Test Procedures ( AS-2978-5 & 6 MPU Board Assembly )

-Manual FO-650-5 issue 2 : P.C. Board Schematics

-Manual FO-650-6 : Operator instructions Manual , Describes Models using USP ver. 5.6 Part N° ‘s E-755-8(M1) , E-755-9(M2) , E-755-10(M3)

-Manual FO-650-7 : Operator instructions Manual for Models using USP ver. 5.61 Part N° ‘s E-755-12(M1) , E-755-13(M2) , E-755-14(M3)

-Manual FO-650-8 : Operator instructions Manual for Models using USP ver. 5.63 Part N° ‘s E-755-21(M1) , E-755-22(M2) , E-755-23(M3)

-Manual FO-650-9 : Printed Circuit Board Schematics , Model E-1275

-Manual FO-650-10 : Series E , Peripheral Test Station Operator Guide and Test Procedures

-Manual FO-650-12 : Operator instructions Manual for Models using MPU Board AS-2978-3 USP Ver. 5.64 ( No SDS ) Part N° ‘s E-755-43(M1) , E-755- 44(M2) , E-755-45(M3) MPU Board AS-2978-5,6 or 7 USP Ver. 5.65 ( No SDS ) Part N° ‘s E-755-46(M1) , E-755- 47(M2) , E-755-48(M3) USP Ver. 5.64-1 ( With SDS ) Part N° ‘s E-755-40(M1) , E-755-41(M2) , E-755-42(M3) USP Ver. 5.65-1 ( With SDS ) Part N° ‘s E-755-49(M1) , E-755-50(M2) , E-755-51(M3)

-Manual FO-650-13 : Printed Circuit Board Schematics/Parts List for all Electronic Slot Machines

-Manual FO-650-14 : Slot Machine Schematics Manual

-Manual FO-650-16 : Link Progressive System Operators Manual

-Manual FO-650-17 : Link Progressive System Maintenance Manual

-Manual FO-650-18 : Printed Circuit Board Schematics/Parts List for Link Progressive System

-Manual FO-650-22 ( Xerox Copy ): Slot Simulator Operating and Test/Troubleshooting Guide , IN COMPLIANCE with U.S. AIR FORCE SPECIFICATIONS Models E-1327 , E-1328 and E-1331

SERIES V

-Manual FO-850-2 : Models V-1088 and V-1090 Parts Catalog

-Manual FO-850-3 : Models V-1297 Operator Instructions Manual

-Manual FO-850-4 : Model V-1297 Parts Catalog

-Manual FO-850-8 : Models V-1265-2 and V-1291 Parts Catalog

-Manual FO-850-10 : Models V-1336 and V-1337 Parts Catalog

-Manual FO-850-10 : Models V-1336 and V-1337 Parts Catalog

-Manual FO-850-13 : 2000 Series , Operator Instructions Manual

[Karliesdad88]

This person says the 1100 manual has continental in it:

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Collectibles-General-Antiques-682/2011/7/bally-continental-slot-tilt.htm


On the Continental machine: That bar below the hopper pushes on a reset button for a hopper time out. This will happen if your hopper runs out of coins, after a bit with no coins exiting the hopper the timer will kick out to protect the hopper motor, if this happens all the machines lights will go out, the machine will be out like the power if off, the only light which will be on is a little red light next to that reset button, when you push the bar which resets the button all the power will come back on. This is a complicated machine, a great machine, and a lot of fun to play! There are several different models of Continentals. You should really have a couple of manuals for this machine which will also help to sell it if that times comes. One of the Bally manuals, just has to do with all Bally Continentals Electro/Mechanical models, it's Bally Manual number 1100 and the other manual you should have with this is Ballys Manual number 2400 which is very good, and easy to understand all about Ballys Electro/Mechanical slot machines and there components. With these two manuals you should be able to fix about anything that goes wrong with your Continental in the future, and you can get these two manuals at:

[OldReno]

Well thanks, I had no idea there were that many manuals out there.
Working on the floor you generally don't have time to pull out a manual.
Will save your links.

Yes, I am very familiar with the safety timer motor and the delay relay circuitry involved.
I would guess that your Continental does not have the delay relay, since, unlike the multiplier (X-unit) machines, it resets the payboard after each coin in's worth of pay, instead of doing a X2, X3, X4 or X5 trip.
That is what your odds follower unit in the top unit is for I believe.
In an oranges pay, the hopper steps 10, the odds follower resets the hopper board, the hopper pays 10 coins again, the follower resets it again, it pays 10 again, and on and on.
In the X board type machines, the hopper does not reset.  The X board games require a much more precise safety timer motor circuit, and if the safety timer is not reset after every 5 steps of the hopper, the machine will time out.
Anyway, thanks for the links, but you didn't paste where the two manuals can be found at:

[Karliesdad88]

I am still trying to find this manual.

[Karliesdad88]

 I followed the red wire it is  red with green spots. It leads to the anti cheat and jackpot lock up coils. My anti cheat coil is destroyed looking. It got burnt up. The plastic is broken on one end and it crumbled on the other end (see pics) Hopefully this is the root of all evils!

[Karliesdad88]

Burnt up and broken anti cheat coil

[Karliesdad88]

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[Karliesdad88]

Barry at foxslots said I need to wedge these contacts closed and it should be fine. I'm not sure about the 3 wires that attach to the coil if they don't need to be attached anywhere.

[proten]

If Barry said that then that's gospel as Barry is the Bally king.
I would just tape the wires up so they don't short out.
Leave the two wires that are connected together and tape them up.
The single wire tape it up alone.

[Karliesdad88]

I can believe that. The three wires are all different colors. I should just tape the ends off on each? Thanks for jumping in here nice to meet you.  I removed the burnt up coil and kept the hardware and tossed it.

[proten]

All you need to do is remove the broken coil and
leave the wires attached to the post they are connected to.
The orange wire feeds the other coils.

[Karliesdad88]

Ok sweet i think I got you Thanks a bunch. I have already removed the broken piece of the coil the wires attach to. I will solder them back or tape them off if that works and reconnect the orange wire to the cable like wire that runs to the strip of coils with a cap connector. Than will find something to wedge the coil in the down position. I hope this does something! Ill post a pic when I'm done. Thanks.

[Karliesdad88]

I just need to wedge it closed now

[Karliesdad88]

It just popped into my head to use a zip tie to hold it down.

[Karliesdad88]

It worked folks! Tilt light is now off! Next step is to figure out why the handle assembly isn't engaging when coin is inserted. It had worked before. Here we go again. I am happy this worked though thanks again for the help guys

[Karliesdad88]

I forgot to upload pic as if I haven't put enough ;/)

[Karliesdad88]

After doing more Dicking off and examining the switches I made an adjustment on the left side of the reel mech and after manually engaging the handle assembly the coin hopper started doing a payout on a winning combo. The quarters were getting jammed in the hopper though where they exit. Needless to say that will need fixing. When I first got the machine the hopper would not move at all because a coin was stuck. So at this point my only functional problems that I am aware of are:

1) handle assembly is not unlocking when coin is inserted
2) this goes with one kinda but machine is not reading additional coins (stepping up odds)
3) coin mechanism needs to be adjusted so quarters do not jam.

I'm really satisfied with the progress other than the rotted parts I had to paint I want to find replacements (ill be calling you soon Fatman). I'm glad I have something to work on and enjoy. I hope someone else gets use from all these problems I have had.

[Karliesdad88]

Scratch #3 off the list. I fixes the coin hopper problem.

[Karliesdad88]

Machine gives correct payouts now. So all I need to do is get the inserted coins to register.

[David B Fowler]

 
Progress my friend ... progress.
I talked to my friend here in Philly that has the parts you might need. He is willing to have me give you his # and has also been following your adventure. I am heading to Atlanta for 2 weeks but you can call anytime.
Dave

[Karliesdad88]

I just got done doing some more playing with this machine. I am still having a problem getting the latch arm assembly to Engadge when I insert a coin. However, when I manually Engadge the latch arm the step up unit seems to work as I insert additional coins the odds are changing. Now all I need to do is get it to Engadge when I put a coin in.

[Karliesdad88]

I figured out that if I take my tiny screw driver and manually move the odds coil in the same motion as if you were to push on the coil armature, it will activate the handle release coil. I tried adjusting the switches on the odds coil and still it will only unlock when I use the fancy screwdriver method. When the odds coil is pushed from the coil armature it does not activate the handle release coil. My coin guide was a little bent and was sometimes causing coins to get stuck which I thought may have been affecting the function of the coin switch so I bent it and they make it through ok but still is not activating the handle release coil. My manual says the coin relay and switch unit on the side of the reel mechanism is part of the handle release coil. Ill keep at it.

[proten]

Check the coil for to be the right one and if it is weak.

[Karliesdad88]

Are you saying to check if its the correct coil for the odds? When the coin switch is tripped the odds reset coil is tripped but not the odds coil

[proten]

What I'm saying if the coil will pull if you
help it then it may not be the right coil in
that position or it may be too weak to pull
down the switch.