Bally 847 Continental Restoration

[mark the spark]

so what pulls that coil in ? and is it possible to trace that yellow/red wire to see where its coming from

[Karliesdad88]

I'm not sure. When I put the coin in the odds reset clicks. The odds coil is not activating.

[OldReno]

It looks like the right coil, and it looks just fine.
You will not get any odds step up until the handle is released and the handle switches change state.
The only thing you will get is your odds reset.

The handle must drop in order to get odds step up.

Manually release the handle coil latch, and you should see the odds step up when you next hit the coin in switch.
The handle is normally released when the coin relay trips (left side of reels, the trip relay), and you can tell it tripped by the coin accepted light being on.  If you have that, but still not handle release, check your dashpot switch at the end of the pump arm, and you can pull on the pump arm itself to sometimes close that switch.
If your half gears are incorrect, you will not have your dashpot switches close.
NOTE- you can tape or bend the dashpot switches together to keep them closed with no ill effect to the machine if you wish....

[David B Fowler]

Check to see it the numbers on the coil are right for that coil. It might be a coil with too much resistance so it doesn't pull in with the strength it might need to activate the switches. Otherwise, take it out of circuit and with a OHM meter read it and compare it with the correct ohms for the proper coil. I think you might need to see it it energizes at all. If you see it pull down then check for the connection on the switch blades themselves with a continuity meter and operate the coil mech by hand. You might need to only clean the contacts and adjust  them closer. You might need to check your coin micro switch, to make sure it makes and breaks as it should. I had on that would somehow arc inside and get stuck inside so it would not activate again until I struck it with the back end of a screwdriver to knock it loose inside.
 
Dave

Check OldRenos suggestions first. He knows so much more about this than I do.

[Karliesdad88]

Thanks guys. I'm just now getting back to the machine for a little work. Had a long day thank god it's the weekend. I forgot my manual at the shop so I'm going to do my best without it. I'm about to play with it and see if I can figure anything out. Hope you guys are having a Good Friday.

[Karliesdad88]

I noticed last light that when I manually Engadge the handle lockout and hit the coin switch the step up was working. Right now when I hit the coin switch manually the odds reset coil is activating. No coin lights so I will check the switches

[Karliesdad88]

Here are pics of the reel mech

[Karliesdad88]

Forgot my manual but I think my dash pot switch has already been disabled. If its above the piston white cylinder. There's no wires to it and broken blades.

[Karliesdad88]

Well fellas While I was  examining  the coin relay and switch on the left side of the reel mechanism one of the wires to the switches fell off really easily. I soldered it back and put it back in the cabinet and guess what? I drop a coin in, handle unlocks and if I add additional coins the odds step up! I'm very very very happy about this. The only problem is the insert coin light isn't coming on which I haven't been able to check the bulb (I just replaced it) because my wife called me inside but yeah a minute problem. Coin accepted lights up when I put the coins in and winner paid. I'm about to take the wife to my casino.

THANKS TO ALL YOU GUYS FOR YOUR HELP AND GUIDANCE I TRULY APPRECIATE IT.

[Karliesdad88]

I'm not getting the payouts I should be getting for additional coins. Only payouts for single coin. Also one reels is a bit wobbly. Now that machine is mostly working I can figure the little problems out. Still very happy about it

[David B Fowler]

It is possible to have a good bulb and bad socket. Check it with a meter to see.
Glad to see that your in the home stretch.
Dave
 

[Karliesdad88]

Makes sense, I had a coin tray bulb that was really dim but after fiddling with it it works properly

[Karliesdad88]

Does anybody know the most common areas to check when your machine is only paying out for 1st coin amounts even though you are playing 2+ coins? I tried cleaning some of the contacts on the coin hopper and blowing it off with air because it was a little dusty.

[CVslots]

Sounds like your stepper unit needs a little tune up, but I'd wait for someone like Old Reno or amachanic to chime in before I did any major damage to it!

[Karliesdad88]

Haha! Thanks for chiming In anyhow. I get the right lights to light up with each coin. I just adjusted it to where it will start at 1st coin odds at a new play before it would start at 2nd coin than 1st coin and so on. I adjusted the spring on the plastic wheel. It shows the correct amount of coins inserted on the feature unit but pays out for only one coin being played.

[Karliesdad88]

I'm pretty sure it was you that warned me not to file on my reel mechanism. I'm glad you did I could have really messed things up!

[CVslots]

I'm pretty sure it was you that warned me not to file on my reel mechanism. I'm glad you did I could have really messed things up!

Yes, that was me...too much cleaning (and adjusting) is not a good thing!

[Karliesdad88]

I just put on a different side door piece that isn't damaged around the lock! I also put in a half gear that doesn't have broken teeth. And I replaced one of my reel tins and the bearing unit. Mine was in really bad shape.

[Karliesdad88]

Updated pic. I put another coat of gold paint on the front. I replaced the half gear that had broken teeth and also the reel glass again. (Be careful not to over tighten when you put new reel glass on) I also picked this stand up last weekend for $2! I still need another extruding trim. And also to get the right payouts.

[David B Fowler]

Good job ... did you get the door parts from Gordy? I saw him just a few days ago.
I recently found this 5 reel Medalist ... didnt have to do much of anything to it.
Dave

[Amachanic]

Good job ... did you get the door parts from Gordy? I saw him just a few days ago.
I recently found this 5 reel Medalist ... didnt have to do much of anything to it.
Dave

If you don't mind me asking, what did the Medalist set yea back? I've been watching around here but nothing much but some Bally E-Series.

Gary

[Karliesdad88]

Yes sir I did get the parts from Gordy. I got the door side piece with the lock hole. A half gear and a reel Tin with the bearing. It solved my wobbley reel problem and handle pull issue I was having.

Sweet looking machine you picked up! I would mind adding a 5 reel machine to my collection.

[Karliesdad88]

I meant to say I WOULDN'T mind adding a 5 reel machine. I've never seen a 5 reel em machine in person yet. 

[David B Fowler]

Well.... you might not want to know.... but less than 4
 

[Karliesdad88]

I can't figure on how to start a new post for the life of me. But I am trying to search for a way to make the reels spin for a longer time. They stop very fast after the lever is pulled. I'm thinking some type of adjustment to the clock? If anyone knows how this can be done thanks in advance.