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« on: March 29, 2009, 12:20:42 PM »

Was wondering if anyone knew how to get my ticket printer working in my GameMaker.  It has power to it.  When I first pulled it out, the error light was lit red.  I stuck a ticket I had from the casino into it and the error light went out and the ready light lit green.

When I do a total clear on the machine, under the setup options "Printer" is listed but says none.  When I go to change the options, it just bypasses over printer all together and wont let me select it.

Any ideas???  No big deal if I can't get it to work... would just be cool.

If I need to take pictures of anything, just let me know what of  Grin
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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2009, 05:40:15 PM »

When I do a total clear on the machine, under the setup options "Printer" is listed but says none.  When I go to change the options, it just bypasses over printer all together and wont let me select it.

What brand of printer and what mains are you using?

I'm wondering if the setup menu on the the machine is dynamic and won't offer the selection if it doesn't recognize the unit as a valid printer. Scratch Head
Here's the excerpt from the manual:

Printer Type
The Game Maker® will support thermal printers
manufactured by Seiko Instruments, Inc., and
Transact Technologies, Inc. The choices are SEIKO
PRINTER, ITHAKA 800 PRINTER
, or NONE. Select one choice
to match the hardware installed in the machine.

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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2009, 06:50:42 PM »

This will be a future endeavour of mine, for now I have enough projects.  If someone else sorts this out in the meantime, it will make it easier for me to add a ticket printer to mine.  I'm pretty sure the one I had with a ticket printer was future logic.  I wonder if I have pics somewhere.

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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2009, 07:39:36 PM »

When I first got my machine it was using -22 Mains and it didn't even have "Printer" on the setup screen.  I am currently using -24 Mains and it does show up.  The Brand of printer in the machine is a Seiko PSA-66 Thermal Ticket Printer.  Here are some different pictures of the inside of my machine.  Maybe it is unplugged somewhere else???


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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2009, 07:40:19 PM »

And some more...


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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2009, 07:41:09 PM »

And some more...


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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2009, 07:41:43 PM »

And the last one...


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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2009, 10:53:24 PM »

Any ideas anyone??
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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2009, 07:59:52 PM »

I dont see the power to the printer conntected, also the printer has an RS232 board in the mididle of the chain (wrapped in plasic shrink wrap).  Pull up the connector from the top hole and see if it's direct to the backplane or if the RS232 board is in the middle.


Printer had its own power supply (24V) from a standard power brick that goes into the black and white wires, looks like it's not connected or the power supply is missing,

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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2009, 09:16:32 PM »

Chasing the wires would be where I'd start.  The power must be hooked up since he said it was lit up error until he fed a ticket in it.  What position are the dip switches in?

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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2009, 09:21:29 PM »

agreed but it does not looks like it has power in the pictures. 

I would make sure the printer goes to the backplane etc.

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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2009, 09:26:13 PM »

This 2-pin plug (Circled in yellow) is the printer's power plug...it needs to go to a transformer>>


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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2009, 09:29:58 PM »

The power supply is rather expensive from Happs though...
It's similar to this except the plug itself needs to match the white 2-pin molex on yours.


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« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2009, 09:53:24 PM »

That plug isn't the power plug, and as he said it is powered up, also I don't believe the power supply shown is for his.  From the printer the harness has that extra connector, the power connects to the other end of the harness.  Here are some pics of a similar set up for a Bally S6000  *** note three wires connect to backplane on the model shown, I'm sure it is more on a gamemaker.  Future logic is the maker.
 I think a different set of mains would work for him., however wouldn't be surprised if a wire is cut or something is disconnected.

I may delve into this with more time in the future, that is if it isn't solved by then.

Thanks,
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« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2009, 09:54:17 PM »

here is a printer info

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« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2009, 10:32:04 PM »

I agree that that 2-pin molex comes from the back of the printer... yes
The printer must have power 2 sources to choose from then...
because I've been using the 2-pin molex for the printer's power from a small 24Vdc desktop transformer.
Which, in turn, powers the bezel lights.
I could use a new bezel for this if anyone has one... yes

Here's a link to the printer manual>>

http://www.happcontrols.com/service_center/pdf/mnl_000001_op_and_tech_gen1d.pdf
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« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2009, 12:19:49 AM »

It looks like you are back feeding your power through the bezel port.  It says modulated, you might want to check this

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« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2009, 12:43:17 AM »

I dont see the power to the printer conntected, also the printer has an RS232 board in the mididle of the chain (wrapped in plasic shrink wrap).  Pull up the connector from the top hole and see if it's direct to the backplane or if the RS232 board is in the middle.


Printer had its own power supply (24V) from a standard power brick that goes into the black and white wires, looks like it's not connected or the power supply is missing,



The printer does have power because the ready light is lit green and it feeds tickets through it.  It does have the RS232 board in the middle of the chain as you described.  Where do I check to see if it is plugged into the backplane??


Chasing the wires would be where I'd start.  The power must be hooked up since he said it was lit up error until he fed a ticket in it.  What position are the dip switches in?

Thanks,
Wayne

Where are the dipswitches located at and I will check.  I am pretty new to all of this and need guidance  Scratch Head  Thanks in advance for the responses so far  applause
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« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2009, 12:48:20 AM »

It looks like you are back feeding your power through the bezel port.  It says modulated, you might want to check this

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I don't know if I quite understand this  Scratch Head What do you mean when you say it says "modulated"???  I took the front cover off of it and the only thing plugged into the little plug in the front is the bezel that lights up and says "Receive Tickets Here".
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« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2009, 01:04:57 AM »

It looks like you are back feeding your power through the bezel port.  It says modulated, you might want to check this

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I don't know if I quite understand this  Scratch Head What do you mean when you say it says "modulated"???  I took the front cover off of it and the only thing plugged into the little plug in the front is the bezel that lights up and says "Receive Tickets Here".


I was actually replying to stayouttadabunker on the back feeding, yours is most likely connected at the correct spot.  the dip switches ar at the rear of the ticket printer under the ribbon cable  take a look at the manual stay... posted a link to.


The picture you took of your backplane board isn't legible.  What does it say beside each connector that the loose plug would fit in.  The schematics I have don't look exactly like yours but may work with this info.

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« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2009, 01:59:53 AM »

I am not in front of it but I think printer is printed on one of the backplane connectors.

I have seen the printer powered two ways but I could not see the lights lit in the picture - oh well...

After you make sure it's connected to the backplane run a test print from the diag menu.

Also you have to have the right mains as noted in many threads. 
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« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2009, 07:11:09 AM »

Thanks everyone... I will take a look at the backplane board when I get home from work today Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2009, 12:16:11 PM »

I checked my backplane, same as Whinkle's and only found on connection that shows Print/Hopper on the board. There are no other obviously marked connections for printer on the backplane other than this connection. This connector is in the lower left corner of backplane, pic is below.

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« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2009, 05:57:49 PM »

Yep... mine is just like tacmans pic.  Here are a couple of other pics.  I don't see any wires that are cut or anything so I am at a loss as how to get it to work.  Unless anyone has any other suggestions, I'm going to chalk it up as a lost cause.  hissy fit

The second pic shows it unplugged.  I unplugged it just to take the pic.


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« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2009, 10:30:33 PM »

If everything is connected, software and settings would be next.  You don't have to give up on this, give it time and go at it again.  perhaps someone with the same model will try out various mains.  Mine is a V7000, yours is a V7200, while the main board is the same, the backplane board is different. I have had V7200 machines and will likely get more in the future.  I'm sure somebody will solve this.  Try different jurisdictions and settings after an eeprom saferam clear.  what is your current setting?

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