PE+ SLANT TOP DVB200 PROBLEMS

[jth718]

I swapped out the dvb145 that came with the machine for a dvb200, I ran the clear and the setchip and enabled the bv. the machine will not accept coins or bills, I tried the #10 dipswitch on the bv and still not working. Not sure what I am doing wrong.

[knagl]

Does it attempt to accept bills?  What exactly happens when you put a $1 into the bill acceptor?

Is the DBV200 you got for your machine the correct protocol for an IGT PE+ (ID022/023)?

Was the machine accepting coins prior to you swapping the bill validator out?  What has changed that it is no longer accepting coins?  What happens to a coin when you drop it in (where does it go)?

Are there any error messages on the screen?

The more you can tell us about what is and isn't happening, the better we can help you.

[jth718]

it does not try to accept bills at all. I have the 022/023 dbv, before I swapped the 145 for the 200 it worked fine,now it won't accept coins either. I  ran the clear chip and then the game chips thean I did the 038 setchip to enable the dbv. and it does not work. there are no errors on the screen and I can get it to play if I hit the button on the coin compariter.

[knagl]

Did you change out the power supply for the DBV?  The 200 requires the power supply with the vents in the cover.

For troubleshooting, I'd try disconnecting the DBV all together and see if you can then get it to accept coins.  The game should always accept coins, regardless of whether or not there's a validator installed or enabled.

For what it's worth, if you had the 145 previously enabled and working, there was no need to run a clear chip or a set chip.

[jth718]

the power supply that's was on the unit had the vent slots in it so I did not change it out. I have a new one that I bought with the 200 so I will try and swap it out and see if it fixes the problem

[knagl]

If you already had the vented power supply, then that's probably fine.

Unhook the wiring to the DBV and figure out why it's not accepting coins first. Where do coins go when you drop them in? Are they getting accepted but no credit is given, or are they being rejected to the tray?  Check to make sure the sample coin is properly inserted in the comparator, and try adjusting the sensitivity pot to make it less likely to reject coins.

[Buzz]

To change a BV or look at the BV power supply on a slant top you have had at least three doors opened, two sometimes three have cherry switches and the main door has a set of optics. If any of these three doors think they are open the machine will not work.

[knagl]

...but then it would show a "DOOR OPEN" error message on the screen.

[Buzz]

...but then it would show a "DOOR OPEN" error message on the screen.

Your right, should put brain in gear before mouth ( fingers ) in motion.  Wait a minute on his lower left the screen will show the main door "closed " ( something like that ) maybe just confirm that it doesn't also say door open.

On the BV lets go back to my favorite thread.   http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=4226.msg8620#msg8620

[jth718]

I had the bv tested at a shop here in vegas,they said it is running fine and it has the correct software for a pe+ machine. I tested the coin compariter in another machine and it worked fine. I attached a picture of the screen. not sure why it is not accepting coins, when you put one in it goes straight through to the hopper and does not register.

[knagl]

If it's going to the hopper and not registering, that means your coin comparator is working, but the ABC coin-in optics below the comparator may not be.

Press the self-test button once to get to the Self Test Inputs screen.  What do the coin-in A, B, and C optics show?  What about if you block them with a popsicle stick or a piece of cardboard -- do they change?

[jth718]

pic of the self test screen and the dip switches on the bv 200. I put the 145 back in the machine to see what would happen, it took the old 1 dollar bill no problem and recorded credits, the coins still go into the hopper and do not record credits.

[knagl]

Were coins ever working on this machine for you?

Below the coin comparator is a small board with three covered optics in the enclosure.  Those are the "Coin Detector" A, B, and C -- the coin-in optics.  In fact, the tiny button you were pressing to add credits is part of that coin-in optics board, not the comparator.

While you're on the Self Test Inputs screen where they're all showing a 1 (which is normal), try blocking them with a popsicle stick or a thin piece of cardboard.  All three of them must change to 0 when they're blocked in order for a coin to be accepted.  If one (or more) of them is stuck at 1, the machine will not register credits when a coin has been accepted by the comparator and falls through to the optics.  Typically this would generate a coin-in timeout error, but not always.


As far as the validator, does the bezel (the "INSERT BILLS" plastic lens by the bill insert slot) light up when it is ready to accept a bill with the DBV-145?  If so, use that to help troubleshoot when you install the DBV-200.  Does the bezel ever light up with the 200 installed?

[jth718]

coins did work when I had the 145 dbv working. I will try the optics tonight. the bezel is old and it always stays lit up green, it is not like my other machine that light up red when there is a problem. maybe I need a new bezel?

[knagl]

The bezel will only light up one color, ever.  It should light up when the validator is enabled by the machine (ready to accept a bill), and turn off when it's disabled by the machine, or if the validator itself isn't ready.

Either way, the bezel isn't needed for the machine to accept a bill.  If it's working properly, however, it can help to show you when the machine thinks it is ready to accept a bill.

[jth718]

I checked the coin optics and I ran a folded up business card past them and detector a stays at 1 and detectors b+c change to 0

[jth718]

I changed the coin optics and the coin problem is fixed but my bv 200 still is not working. could it be the dip switches? all are set to off. when I put the 145 bv back on it works fine, so I know it is not the transport either.

[knagl]

Okay, we're making progress.

With the 145 in place, does the bezel light up as it's supposed to (ie. lights up when the machine is ready to accept a bill, and then goes dark when there's a hand in play or it's otherwise not ready to accept a bill)?  If so, how does it behave with the 200 -- does it light up at all?

For what it's worth, even with DIP switch 10 in the wrong position, it will still attempt to accept a bill -- it will just reject it if it's set to the wrong protocol.  If it's not trying at all, there's something else going on.

[jth718]

one of the wires on my bezel broke so I need to get a new one. but the 145 takes bills in no problem and records credits. the 200 cycles but it will not take in any bills. I think the bezel was lit up all the time, would the bezel cause the dbv not to take any bills in? can the machine work normally without the bezel?

[jay]

I am sure the Bezel doesn't have anything to do with it.
The question regarding the Bezel is that if the DBV is not "activated" then the Bezel will be off.

Do you have a set chip ?
You might need to enable the DBV200

[jth718]

i have the 038 and 004 set chips, when I ran the setchip 038 the other day it was aleady enabled.

[jay]

I have never changed heads.... so perhaps (speculation) if the DBV200 was not in when you ran the set chip through then perhaps its not enabled.

The other thing that came to mind is that the DB145 and DB200 power supplies are different. The DBV200 has slots in it.

The 145 will work with the 200supply but the 200 will be flakey with the 145 supply.

[knagl]

would the bezel cause the dbv not to take any bills in? can the machine work normally without the bezel?

Either way, the bezel isn't needed for the machine to accept a bill.  If it's working properly, however, it can help to show you when the machine thinks it is ready to accept a bill.

[jth718]

I am going to try and re run the set chip tonight. does anyone know if all the dip switches should be set to off ?

[jay]

Did you check the power supply.....