8 liner game board Roms

[mike11]

I have quite a few dyna game boards around here and a few Astros....... All are fruit games ...... Getting kinda boring ..... Are there any Roms I could burn n swap on the boards to make them poker games ????
Thanks

[jay]

You might want to PM a member "Rocket".
He is the king of the 8liners.

[ROCKET]

You might want to PM a member "Rocket".
He is the king of the 8liners.

Thanks JAY for all the emails while i was busy working my tool -s
last night .I get more done at night than day ..

ANSWER'S   to question above  for burning roms for pokers ??--I have never done it  -unless its a poker board to start -I made a back up copy of certain poker roms . but to convert the entire board from a spinning slot etc to a poker I have never done it .I always had a poker game board by itself to start with .

 most of the CGA  stuff on 8 LINERS /AKA CHERRY MASTERS  is pretty inexpensive now on ebay . its the VGA ---AGE NOW WITH TOUCH SCREEN BOARDS on most of them that get pricey $$$$

the old Dyna boards that had the combo slot and poker as a twin  game you could even turn the symbols into little rockets via the dip switches --no pun intended . those are cheap 25.00-50.00 bucks for a poker and slot board
I think that's the L-88 platform board .

if you want to play it on the computer and skip buying a cherry master cabinet upright or countertop
there are plenty of CD'S that offer multiple poker and slot games out there ..you just have to do some digging on the internet who has the best price . I have one that has around 8--12 games on the CD that has a few pokers . that way you don't have to deal with buying a board for 25--50 bucks to find you don't like it or have it arrive DOA? I have one put out by IGT SLOTS that has 8 or 10 pokers with real coin sounds hitting the tray -double bonus poker -bonus poker -deuces wild etc in color lol that's a great CD and can be used with any touch screen run off your computer or laptop etc I have a few of them left PM  me for cost its cheap $$
and fun to play all the IGT PE Games at anytime without buying a full blown poker machine .

I have myself and seen others toss a old laptop in a organ donor cabinet with a touch screen with this CD from IGT in it and play it like a regular poker game -just minus any real coin or bills -install a good set of speakers you would never know its not real coin hitting the tray on a cash out or hitting a winning hand with the reg sounds /dings it makes .

I have in the area of 1000 CHERRY MASTER boards left of various  games from the past to present . some may need a new battery -some don't need a battery to work . made by all the great makers --Astro-Dyna-Amaco--ICT--PAL -etc 

if you want to go off the 8-liner grid and try the Micro gaming Co's single edge connector TURBO POKER II made in the 80's that is still one of the best pokers out there in my opinion that holds a payout % so close from 88% to 99% depends on where you want to set it -with double up and extra card play its fast moving . those are pricey still ..a good running board is still worth 50.00 all day .
on my profile pics there are some of turbo poker II

 the two pokers in cherry boards that stick in my head pokers that are in my opinion just O.K . to play are CHAMPION POKER & BIG TIME  POKER -there single game pokers but they grow old real fast while playing
hope this helps you out . if interested in a board or CD ????---PM  me and I can give you a brief list and prices .
Rocket .

[mike11]

Good info thank you .... What I found scouring around was Amcoe on their ET-97 board offered the skill cherry 97 along with poker only 97 on the same board platform ...... I downloaded the bin zip for the poker only game and was trying to do a rom swap to have that on the same board with a rom swap but for some reason I can't get the chip to take the files ...... There are 7 bin files within the zip for that game just like 7 for the skill cherry ......... To get them to work on the 27256 chip do I need to burn them as a zip ??? My buffer only let's me load and burn one file at a time ...... I'm using a pocket programmer .... Any advise ???
Thanks

[ROCKET]

Wow lol
You got me on that one since I have not burned a Cherry Master chip in 10 years lol
Plus my CHIP BURNER got tossed at the wall 5 years ago.  So I never replaced it
I do have 3 portable chip burners for home alarm chips by Wells Fargo.
So I am out of luck even testing one out. 
Glad you found the board I was talking about.  That's a good game for a old one .
As I mentioned if interested I have 1000 plus boards. 

I know I have 2-3 champion pokers single game. Some others for the CGA if interested ?

Rocket

[jay]

Generally bin files have a .bin extension. Soy you should probably extract what is in the zip file.

I know little about 8liners but with my S+ they use 27c64s so when I buy a bucket of 27c256's I need to burn these with a offset.
Ie there are 4x64's in 256 and chips are read top down where as burners burn bottom up.

So... I would find out what chips are native and then do the appropriate offsets. The 256s that are in there now may not be what's native.

Hope this helps

[mike11]

Not familiar with what you mean by offset ..... How do I set that up in the buffet to get the whole package of bins to load..... My buffers only allowing me to chose one file at a time to burn

[jay]

It depends on your burner software.
Some ask you for the load address when you read in your file.
Default is 0000

Do a quick search on the word offset. This was a well discussed topic. Currently on iPhone so a bit tough for me to sort through all the posts

[mike11]

wow thats greek to me.... but that seems to be where my problem lies... once i can set it up to load multiple bins to one chips ill be good to go

[jay]

If the original bin is 64k and you are using a 256k chip the board is only going to be capable of reading 64k from your chip.
When you burn your 256k chip your burner starts at 0000:0000 and writes upwards for 64k worth leaving the top 192k of the chip blank.
When your board reads this chip it starts at the top and reads 64k down - which is blank.
So what you want to do is to load the 64k bin into the upper memory space using an offset.
Some burner software has a load offset function while other requires you to load the bin 4 times and the burner program just stacks the code so 4 loads creates a 256k file.

For burners that dont support either of these methods another trick is to copy a 64k bin 4 times to create a larger file.
Then load the larger file into the burner.

From dos:
Copy poker1.bin+poker1.bin+poker1.bin+poker1.bin  poker2.bin

Then load poker2.bin into your burner and write this to the chip.

Please remember my knowledge of 8liners is zero.
I am just speculating that based on the vintage of the machine that 64ks were used.

[mike11]

If the original bin is 64k and you are using a 256k chip the board is only going to be capable of reading 64k from your chip.
When you burn your 256k chip your burner starts at 0000:0000 and writes upwards for 64k worth leaving the top 192k of the chip blank.
When your board reads this chip it starts at the top and reads 64k down - which is blank.
So what you want to do is to load the 64k bin into the upper memory space using an offset.
Some burner software has a load offset function while other requires you to load the bin 4 times and the burner program just stacks the code so 4 loads creates a 256k file.

For burners that dont support either of these methods another trick is to copy a 64k bin 4 times to create a larger file.
Then load the larger file into the burner.

From dos:
Copy poker1.bin+poker1.bin+poker1.bin+poker1.bin  poker2.bin

Then load poker2.bin into your burner and write this to the chip.

Please remember my knowledge of 8liners is zero.
I am just speculating that based on the vintage of the machine that 64ks were used.

im using a intronics pocket programmer..... in the past i only used it to burn simple single file chips (pac man) ect... this particular bin came in a zip with 7 bins in the zip file all to be loaded on the single rom chip its a 27512 thats used...... When it comes to "stacking" the bins is where i get a bit lost....... my programmer only lets me choose 1 file at a time to load to the buffer........ im not familiar that much with the settings of this unit to do as you described...... If you could explain a little more in detail if you can i would appreciate it

Thanks

[jay]

Sorry I know nothing about your burner.
Extract the BIN files from the zip
Do the DOS command to create a single file. Burn the newly created file.


Have you tried loading in multiple files ??
If you look at the bin editor before you load in a chip it should be all 0000's
When you load in the chip you should see lots of garbly gook
If you scroll through this ... it should end at some point and be all 0000's again.
Note the memory address.
Load in the next file.... did it overwrite the first one or did it stack on where the 0000's left off ?

[mike11]

Sorry I know nothing about your burner.
Extract the BIN files from the zip
Do the DOS command to create a single file. Burn the newly created file.


Have you tried loading in multiple files ??

If you look at the bin editor before you load in a chip it should be all 0000's
When you load in the chip you should see lots of garbly gook
If you scroll through this ... it should end at some point and be all 0000's again.
Note the memory address.
Load in the next file.... did it overwrite the first one or did it stack on where the 0000's left off ?

If you could please hold my hand through this ..... This is where i get lost ........ I have no clue how to burn these using dos...... I just use the program with the burner ...... How do I go about making all my files into one bin ??? That sounds like that'll work

[ROCKET]

Jay,
you have your work cut out for you now lol   

boy I am glad I tossed my chip burner against the wall a few years back ..

Is it  snowing out yet ??? wow is it cold out  --  the 5 deer in my field I am  looking at >>look cold<<

all else fails I  dug out some poker boards  if needed ???..

Rocket

[jay]

I never said to burn anything from DOS.
What I said is that you can use DOS to combine several files into one larger file.
You then burn this larger file to your larger chip using the method you have always used.

1. Create an area on your hard drive that you can easily find.
Click on Start. In the RUN box type: C:\
This will open a window and show you the contents, right click in the white space and choose NEW, followed by FOLDER.
Call the folder STUFF
Double click on the newly created STUFF folder and it will be empty.
Leave this folder open.

2. Open the ZIP file by double clicking on the file. You will see the individual bin files that are in that zip.
Drag the individual files to the STUFF folder still open on your screen.

3. Click on Start. In the RUN box type CMD and press enter.
You will now get a black box.
Change directories into the STUFF folder. Type: CD \STUFF  Press enter
The prompt should now read: C:\Stuff>
Issue the command DIR  press enter, which will show you the files in this folder.
You should see the files that you dragged there earlier.
IF your prompt didn't change or you don't see the files go back and do it again and watch the spacing in the commands your typing

4. Issue the command
COPY File1.bin+File2.bin+File3.bin NEW.bin  Press enter
Again watch your spacing here.... !
Instead of File1.bin you will use the names of the real files. I illistrated 3 files but if you have 7 files or whatever then list them out.
You should get the message back that it copied the file. You should not get an error message.
Type: DIR press enter and verify the new file was created.
You can also note the size of the individual files and confirm that the NEW.BIN file is the sum of the individual files you added together.
Type: EXIT and the DOS box goes away.

5. Go to your burner software and load up NEW.BIN and burn it.

Once again. I know nothing about your burner, and I have no clue if putting this collection of bins on one chip is going to make your chip work for you. Typically speaking 1 bin = 1 chip. It makes no sense to me that you were given 7 bin files for 1 chip.  
If I have a 27c512 chip and I use my burner to read the chip I get a single 512K file. Not 8 little ones.

I will also add that 7 bins is an ODD number. 512K divides by 8 into 64K chunks.  7 makes no sense. Assuming 7 is right then I would be inclined to say that a 64k offset would be needed otherwise the top 64k of your chip is likely empty and won't work.

I also asked you a question and did not get any response:

Have you tried loading in multiple files ??
If you look at the bin editor before you load in a chip it should be all 0000's
When you load in the chip you should see lots of garbly gook
If you scroll through this ... it should end at some point and be all 0000's again.
Note the memory address.
Load in the next file.... did it overwrite the first one or did it stack on where the 0000's left off ?
Reading a memory map in your bin editor is very basic.

This is about as far as I can help you. I would suggest you get a manual for your burner - I am sure a google search will dredge one up.

Given your level of experience I might suggest you take Rocket up on his offer.

[mike11]

Jay, I did it this way as you described to get all the files on the chip....That part I had no problem with and it worked fine...... The game still dosent boot and play when installed into the board though........From AMCOE's website are the files available for this game to burn ..... their site though is passworded.  MAMEST has the files for this one i am attemprting to burn along with what this game currently is and they are bost the same file batch of 7 bins in a zip.......its showing the files copied and creating the "NEW" bin file but the sz of the new is not consistant with the combined size of the 7 files////////// ???????........ I think we are close but something is missing

[jay]

I could have almost guarenteed that loading 7 files onto a 27c512 was NOT going to work.
You didn't mention the size of the files but assuming they were all 64K - having 7 of them would have meant that the top 64K was empty and as such unrecognized by your machine.

IF the files are larger than 64K then there is more information than chip ..... and again your burn would have been invalid.

If this was a PE+ poker machine.
The Mame Zip file contains:
Game, Program, MGO, MRO, MBO, MXO, CapXrom
 (7 files)

All Seven of these files go on 7 different chips. This is why they are 7 different files.
6 of them burn onto 27c256 and if I used a 27c512 then I would have to load them into a higher memory space to make them work which you say you don't know how to do with your burner / software.

The last one Capxrom - is a type of chip that is not even sold anymore, and you need a very special (old old) burner. SOme folks have created a convertor board and use a 27c256 writing 64k of data to top of the chip.

I would suspect you are a similar situation.... your 7 files need to be on 7 different chips and given the age of the platform are probably not 27c512 but smaller chips.

Once again I know nothing about 8 liners.... I am sure there are others that can jump in here.
Or perhaps you could ask the other AMCOE forum about burning the contents of your zip file onto other chips.