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cafoose
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« on: November 07, 2013, 03:44:35 PM »
I have an igt slant top video poker machine with a Ceronix 1492 monitor. squiggly lines went all over the monitor then it went blank and has not come back on since. It started smelling like something got hot but nothing seems to look fried. What can I do next to figure this out?

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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2013, 05:52:24 PM »
that's a pretty old CRT but Ceronix is solid so you can probably fix it!!  propeller  light zig-zag lines in the background of a normal picture is the retrace lines; usually you start seeing those when one or more electrolytic capacitors is getting weak. good rule of thumb when working on CRT monitors is to replace every electrolytic cap you have a replacement for when you have the board out on your bench. they are fairly inexpensive usually and are a high failure component so if you change them now it may save you from having a failure sooner down the road. Wink

also if you smelt burnt electronics  Burning Resistor lightning bolt (it's a pretty distinct stench)  flip pancake vomit but don't see anything obvious then your issue may be worse than just some bad caps. i'm sure Mike has tons of info on the 1492 in his repair logs... http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?board=21.0


post up pics of the boards front and back might help. look around the flyback, the power in area and the neck board as well for burnt resistors and also i'd test diodes and transistors if you have a meter.  g/l!!  applause yes
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2013, 09:12:58 PM »
Sounds like the flyback is bad.. They stink when they go.. You should try to contact Ceronix. I've heard that they will do repairs fairly reasonable too.

Gary
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2013, 11:58:37 PM »
I have one of those myself the monitor went out on the previous owner so they gave it to me got a replacement off ebay and somehow got two of them

what is your location???

the extra one is just sitting on the shelf

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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2013, 01:07:36 AM »
York Pennsylvania about 50 miles north of BaltimoreI was looking at my circuit board and saw a burn mark on it and a black burn mark on the tray underneath at the same spot it looks like that is where the problem is I checked the fuse soldered on the circuit board with an ohmmeter and it is blown
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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2013, 07:44:03 AM »
Here are some pics of the video board notice the burn mark on the tray

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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2013, 07:45:54 AM »
Here are some better pics showing the burns on the video board

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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2013, 08:02:29 AM »
Here is an explanation of what I said earlier also showing a white cap that I found laying inside the machine

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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2013, 05:35:25 PM »
here are more pics

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« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2013, 05:37:13 PM »
more pics

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« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2013, 05:39:32 PM »
This is above and below the burn marks

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« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2013, 05:52:47 PM »
I've seen those 1492 Ceronix burn a hole in them at that coil before. I would check with Ceronix for a replacement. We were buy new 1942 for around $100 last year where I worked. They might want to see your old one so they know they are sending out the correct one. They were setup different for depending on the application.

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« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2013, 06:14:26 AM »
 I Agree yeah give Ceronix a call, http://ceronix.com/contact.html they might even just sell you the coil if you wanted to just try a repair yourself; can't hurt to ask. i've read in many posts about how good Ceronix is to deal with. yes and Gary's right; there were several different versions. i remember being told not to mix up Ceronix boards or CRT's because they only go back together the original way. Duh! frying pan Scratch Head
i'm sure you could source the component(s) you want to replace elsewhere. i don't have a BOM or schematic of the 1492 but i'm sure it's not too hard to find considering how old it is and the fact that it was a gaming monitor; most slot techs are very sharing. applause
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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2013, 04:50:09 PM »
I just got a rebuilt circuit board today from Ceronix for $59.10 including shipping and installed it. The machine runs perfectly now! I would like to thank everyone for their help. Clap
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« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2013, 05:00:34 PM »
Quote from: cafoose on November 18, 2013, 04:50:09 PM
I just got a rebuilt circuit board today from Ceronix for $59.10 including shipping and installed it. The machine runs perfectly now! I would like to thank everyone for their help. Clap
Quote from: cafoose on November 18, 2013, 04:50:09 PM
I just got a rebuilt circuit board today from Ceronix for $59.10 including shipping and installed it. The machine runs perfectly now! I would like to thank everyone for their help. Clap
Quote from: cafoose on November 18, 2013, 04:50:09 PM
I just got a rebuilt circuit board today from Ceronix for $59.10 including shipping and installed it. The machine runs perfectly now! I would like to thank everyone for their help. Clap

Glad to help.. Sure beats tring to fix the old Ceronix.

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