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« on: May 17, 2009, 01:00:23 PM »

Hi everyone I am trying to get this kit up and running and I keep running into a problem.  When I got the game it came with several chips -

U20 and U18 - regular personality chips 8815 - fine

It also came with two sets of U28 and U43 chips - I think these are the mains for the board  -  one set is 2005 and the other set is 2004 -  again fine

I put these in the 6000 the game boots up and plays but the problem is when I get the three symbols to go to the bonus round (10 free spins) it doesn't happen -

Now here is where I need your help - there is another chip  the same size as the U28 and U43 chips that is labeled  8MB PS0000000020-00 L98-1842.  I thought this would be a sound chip -  but when I looked at the sound card on the side of the machine there isn't a socket for a chip of any kind.   Could this go in U30 or U45?? These are the only other two spaces on the mpu that could take it??

This is killing me

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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2009, 01:23:19 PM »

Hi Jonathan,
  There are two different types of deluxe sound boards for the S6000, one is for top box speaker equipped machines like you have, the other is for no top speaker machines, the second is the type that your chip is for, the top box type has a small chip inside the chip carrier (rear) on the sound board.  I'll see if I can get a pic of one of these.

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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2009, 01:29:30 PM »

Would that chip prevent the bonus from playing?

I'm trying to figure out what is keeping that from running.
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2009, 01:32:22 PM »

Option 26 might take care of the bonus spin



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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2009, 01:39:56 PM »

I'll give that a try - but I think that's just for how the buttons behave.
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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2009, 01:59:48 PM »

I'll give that a try - but I think that's just for how the buttons behave.
It's just for the buttons.  Your game shouldn't need this set.  I know there are some dip switches to do with bonus games, but I didn't think your game required them to be set.  What are your dip switch settings?  I think ds1 switch 3 off, or 4 and 6 off with the rest on.

I have to go and will look at this later.

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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2009, 02:00:46 PM »

did you try your 2006 mains?
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2009, 02:04:24 PM »

Yes - I tried with them first - then the 2005 then the 2004

I get the credits with the winning combination but the bonus doesn't start - I still have to get the cable that goes from the "feature lights" on the motherboard to the top glass.  Could this do it?
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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2009, 01:18:10 AM »

Hi Jonathon,
   I will check to see if I have chips for this theme so I can try the setup in a machine here.  Can you tell me the position of the symbols that enact the bonus.

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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2009, 08:16:36 AM »

Sure --- I'll report back on my dip switches too.  Thanks
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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2009, 08:56:56 PM »

Here's a snapshot of the reels and the MPU dip switches.   I looked and looked at the sound board on the side of the machine - and I can't for the life of me where at all a sound chip would go.  I looked and looked but everything is soldered in.





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« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2009, 09:02:24 PM »

Oh what triggers the bonus is getting 3 angels or 3 devils in any position.
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« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2009, 03:56:23 PM »

 bust gut laughing  I just learned that the game is called Diamonds and Devils  bust gut laughing

No wonder it doesn't work... If I can't even get the name right.

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« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2009, 04:00:32 PM »

My wife is away for two days, so I'll take a crack at this tomorrow likely.

Thanks,
Wayne
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« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2009, 04:01:18 PM »

Thanks Wayne!
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« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2009, 04:02:38 PM »

I'll also look at her Big Bang Piggy Bankin machine, this is the perfect opportunity, I hope she doesn't read this  post....... frying pan

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« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2009, 04:04:28 PM »

That's much more of a mystery..... I think I have the elvis chips.. If you can confirm with your checksums you can save me weeks of sleepless nights waiting for elvis to show up.  propeller yes
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« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2009, 11:43:32 PM »

I haven't forgotten about this .  I have been enjoying the Harvey Korman Jokers Wild game.   I'll check the jumpers soon. 
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« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2009, 09:48:59 PM »

Hi are you interested in selling a set of mains. I need a U28 U 43 set for my machine.
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« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2009, 10:19:27 PM »

Clown,  try Jim at Blue Ridge Slots  --  He had the clear chips for the bally that I needed. 
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« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2009, 10:28:11 PM »

Here are my dip switches... i don't know if they would stop the bonus round  Scratch Head


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« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2009, 11:40:09 PM »

OK JD...here's the information on the Bonus harness connection you have been looking for.

The first picture below shows the back of the glass and a 20 pin Male connector.  The second picture below shows a gorgeous orange and yellow harness with a 20 pin Female connector.


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« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2009, 11:42:18 PM »

In the first picture below you can see the harness travels to the back left of the cabinet and drops down.  And to my surprise, in the second picture below you can see it connects to the door panel display on the right near the door jamb.


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« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2009, 09:56:01 AM »

Those pictures are priceless to me.   Hail

Thank you very much.  I looked over every inch of the back board trying to figure out where that sign would plug in and was shocked to see it on the side of the front panel.   The next big question I have is how to fabricate this cable.  I'm thinking of taking an IDE computer cable - cutting it to the proper number of pins and see if that fits.  


Two things:

1.   Jim can you take a picture of the mpu jumpers?  I would like to double check them to see if that's preventing the bonus round from working.

2.  Can you snap a photo of the sound card.  I think the sound board that I have is incompatible with the current chips that I have.  

Thanks again! -
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« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2009, 12:01:28 PM »

Actually the more I think about it...it makes sense that it is connected where it is.  The MPU does all of the decision making...then outputs the results onto the door display panel.  The bonus round display in the top box is nothing more than an extension of displayed results being transferred from the MPU to the door then to the top box.

You can get the female connectors you need from Mouser.com.

I will take the other pictures you want tonight when I have more time.

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