TITO - Death to home slots?

[jdkmunch]

I was thinking about this last night - all of the new slots in the casino don't accept coins and only pay out with tickets.   How will it be possible to get these to work at home?  The bluebird for example - how are people hooking these up? 

[jay]

You insert paper money and you cash out with a ticket.....

I once thought TITO was a labor reduction strategy, no more hopper fills, coin counting etc but then there is always paper and ink that needs to be replenished. Then it was suggested that there was less "shrinkage" of the coin supply. According to what I have read it is more related to denominational psychology.

People are more apt to play a penny slot than they are a dollar slot. However 40 lines at 20 coins per line is $8.00 PER PULL vs $3.00 on a traditional dollar slot. The 40 line action often (not always) does pay back say 500 coins.... lights bells whistles...... oh lookee you only lost $3.00 on that pull....but you got the visual and audible re-enforcement of a winner.

In short, plugging in 800 pennies via coinage kind of slows down the speed of play and is likely not going to happen.

Server based gaming will be the death of home slots.

[Bettor Slots]

Although I have always liked having hoppers and having the sound of coins hitting the tray, I have come to equally like having a ticket printer on my machines over the past couple of years.  Since you can customize the print out you can put the name of your own casino and a fun address on the ticket.  When my family and friends are over and happen to hit a jackpot it makes a fun souvenir for them to print out and take with them as a record of the big hit.

[Slotmaster]

Although I have always liked having hoppers and having the sound of coins hitting the tray, I have come to equally like having a ticket printer on my machines over the past couple of years.  Since you can customize the print out you can put the name of your own casino and a fun address on the ticket.  When my family and friends are over and happen to hit a jackpot it makes a fun souvenir for them to print out and take with them as a record of the big hit.

or the fun of filling the hopper to 5000 creidts because a guest decided to hit the cash out button.....

I am a fan of the hand pay option, no messy clean up etc.

Tickets are OK but for non guest play I like hand pay. 

[jdkmunch]

I have come to equally like having a ticket printer on my machines over the past couple of years.  Since you can customize the print out you can put the name of your own casino and a fun address on the ticket.  When my family and friends are over and happen to hit a jackpot it makes a fun souvenir for them to print out and take with them as a record of the big hit.

How did you set this up?

[Slotmaster]

depends on which machine you are asking for?

no two are alike, but they will be asking the same questions in the ticket setup menu- Name, Location, Address etc. 

Some have settings for Ticket Serial Number style, if they expire after X days etc. 

[Bettor Slots]

depends on which machine you are asking for?

no two are alike, but they will be asking the same questions in the ticket setup menu- Name, Location, Address etc. 

Some have settings for Ticket Serial Number style, if they expire after X days etc. 

Ditto

[jdkmunch]

I have to do some research -  For instance I have a Bally 6000 with printer  - How would the machine know to validate a ticket that it prints out??  I always thought that the numbers were given out and verified by a server.

[Slotmaster]

Most but not all machines allow for you to set the validation to "standard" which will allow for a ticket to be printed without validation.   

Most casino's use "Enhanced" which requires the server to validate the ticket.   Some JUR require it. 

Some machines will print about 40 tickets or so and then lock up looking for the host.  I think the bally evo was one of  them but cant remember which

The bally 6000 as well as some of the Game Makers require the right mains to print with no validation.   

It works on the 6000 but is tricky to setup. 

[rickhunter]

On home machines with ticket printers, you can cash out with a ticket, but you can't use the ticket to put the credits back into the machine.  The cash out process just prints the ticket, but it does not create the ticket record on a server(s) that handle that in a casino (since you don't have one at home).  So when you put the ticket into the machine, it has no way to validate it.  It's just a nice souvenir for your friends.  (We like to call it the COOL factor).

[Slotmaster] So what happens after the 40th ticket, do you have to clear the machine to keep printing tickets.

[Slotmaster]

On home machines with ticket printers, you can cash out with a ticket, but you can't use the ticket to put the credits back into the machine.  The cash out process just prints the ticket, but it does not create the ticket record on a server(s) that handle that in a casino (since you don't have one at home).  So when you put the ticket into the machine, it has no way to validate it.  It's just a nice souvenir for your friends.  (We like to call it the COOL factor).

[Slotmaster] So what happens after the 40th ticket, do you have to clear the machine to keep printing tickets.

Correct you have to clear.

Konami is the one platform that does not make offline printing easy.

Also note you do have to turn on SDS or SAS on some platforms to get printing to work (WMS is one of them)