More Bally 809 help

[SilverFerret]

I have a multi coin 809 which now works fine except that sometimes (about half the time) pays back the original bet.
Example: if you put in 3 coins and hit 2 cherries which would pay 15 coins, it will give 18 back (15 coin win + 3 coin original bet) or if playing 5 coins and hit three bells which would pay 90 coins it may give back 95 (90 coin win + 5 coin original bet).  It's not that it's paying out randomly wrong payouts, just that sometimes it give back the original bet.
Anybody have any ideas why?
Thanks for the help in advance.

[FOXSSLOTS1]

you are overpaying by one coin - 3 coins played you are getting 3 extra - 5 coins 5 extra - the problem is your zero stop adjustment.

[SilverFerret]

Is there a reason it happens only sometimes and not every time? I think I see where you are going with your explaination... i.e. it pays an extra coin for each coins payout? Maybe the issue is just intermittent and like you say an adjustment is in order.

[FOXSSLOTS1]

adjustment of the zero stop.

[slotsteve]

Ckeck that the rubber on zero is not sticky if it is replace it

[SilverFerret]

Thanks, it does seem a little sticky. Where would I go to get one? I believe that I have purchased a couple of things online from Foxsslots1. Foxsslots1, would you have this piece?
Thanks, Jim

[2Moons]

FYI
http://cgi.ebay.com/Bally-Slot-Machine-Stepper-Zero-Switch-Stop-Bumper_W0QQitemZ310095797860QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4833265e64&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116
It Works well
2Moons

[FOXSSLOTS1]

use a mechanical pencil eraser - cut in to size - those rubber parts don't last 25 years - i guess they call that built in obsolescence.

[SilverFerret]

Thanks guys!

[SilverFerret]

After looking at my zero stop and reading more about it and also looking at another post on this message board, I'm pretty sure the adjustment is correct the way it is. Anything else it could be?

[Op-Bell]

What you are trying to do is align the tracks and wipers so that after the ratchet clicks (say) 50 times it comes off the end of the 50 track. I chose that number because it's at the 12 o clock position, top center, and easiest to see. Try it - click the ratchet 50 times and see where the wipers are. If it takes 51 clicks to get off the track, then either the zero stop is set one ratchet tooth too far back, or the PCB is slightly misaligned on the frame. You know how to adjust the zero stop. If you can't adjust it enough to bring the wipers one tooth forward, then you can move the PCB one tooth back. Loosen the two screws that hold the PCB slightly (but not too much, leave it some friction) and rotate it clockwise enough for the wipers to come off the track. The screws are under the snail cam and may be hard to get at, but there may be enough flexibility in the bracket (or they may already be loose enough) that you can move the PCB without slackening them. It's a very small adjustment, and doing it at the 50 position makes it easy to see. Test, rinse and repeat until   satisfied. If the screws are slack enough to allow movement you need to take the snail cam off and tighten them, or the PCB will move and the problem will recur.

[2Moons]

Hello Silverferret
This is a photo that i took of mine the last time that I cleaned & lubed it. I hope it will help you. I have used a faucet washer to replace the rubber on a zero stop switch. A trip to the plumbing supply store & I found one that had a hole in the middle for the screw and it was correct size to slip right in. I like using faucet washers because they are a nice firm rubber that dose not stick.
2Moons

[SilverFerret]

Props to Foxsslots1.  After a minor adjustment of the zero stop, the problem is solved. Thanks again... you were right on the money!