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« Reply #150 on: May 09, 2012, 01:21:09 AM »
i got a computer flat screen to work great in a game maker -since the game maker has buttons, most of the games work ok without using the touchscreen.

however trying to put a flat screen in a PE plus has been troublesome, the flat screen doesn't recognize the signal from the PE.
getting the wiring correct or possibly needing a converter
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« Reply #151 on: May 09, 2012, 02:00:45 AM »
Quote from: azgamingslots on May 09, 2012, 01:21:09 AM
i got a computer flat screen to work great in a game maker -since the game maker has buttons, most of the games work ok without using the touchscreen.

however trying to put a flat screen in a PE plus has been troublesome, the flat screen doesn't recognize the signal from the PE.
getting the wiring correct or possibly needing a converter

That's been the ongoing problem for the past 4 years.
The best we've seen so far was a "stable" picture but the colors were waay off...  bawling
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« Reply #152 on: May 09, 2012, 05:19:03 AM »
Right, read this entire thread and you'll see the problem. The Bally GameMaker uses VGA video which a standard computer monitor recognizes. The PE+ uses CGA video which modern day monitors do not recognize.
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« Reply #153 on: May 14, 2012, 09:32:11 PM »
I think I found the solution, just weld a additional chip and all done....have photos but dont know how to post it...
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« Reply #154 on: May 14, 2012, 09:37:36 PM »
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« Reply #155 on: May 14, 2012, 10:10:20 PM »
Is that right off of U-45 ???
What are the red and blue wires from CR28 and CR29?  Are they the other end of the ones you use for the inverted signal?
And where did you get the adapter board?
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« Reply #156 on: May 14, 2012, 10:32:44 PM »
 excessive drool More info, please More info, please More info, please Thanks

GREAT NEWS! Could you please detail everything that we need to do to do this ourselves! It would be greatly appreciated! +1 (Karma, or whatever) Hail Clap

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« Reply #157 on: May 14, 2012, 10:49:54 PM »
i buy the board from a chinese guy in Honduras...
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« Reply #158 on: May 14, 2012, 11:03:13 PM »
Quote from: ronaldolai on May 14, 2012, 10:49:54 PM
i buy the board from a chinese guy in Honduras...

Thanks for the reply.
Does he export to the USA? or do you?
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« Reply #159 on: May 14, 2012, 11:29:02 PM »
If you have name or number I can order some now. yes
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« Reply #160 on: May 14, 2012, 11:49:14 PM »
Quote from: alex666 on May 14, 2012, 11:29:02 PM
If you have name or number I can order some now. yes

Do you have the price?
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« Reply #161 on: May 14, 2012, 11:51:03 PM »
ELKIN DARIO TABARES
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   ERTECH GAMING

Movil : 3113154932
Tel: 57(4)2346413
http://www.ertechgaming.co
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Medellin Colombia
I could not communicate well enough with him and he did not reply mostly.
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« Reply #162 on: May 14, 2012, 11:58:56 PM »
I have a friend down there. I'll send an email and see if he knows this company.

Years ago he told me about a conversion board they were using down there. This looks just like he discribed. The DB15 connectors sticks out the front of the tray when it's all installed.  yes yes
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« Reply #163 on: May 15, 2012, 12:19:58 AM »
anyone can tell me how to make it myself........cause its very expensive
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« Reply #164 on: May 15, 2012, 01:47:59 AM »
oh....that is waay cool!  Hail
It appears that the non-inverted signals come through the red and blue wires,
get converted via the piggyback board
and out through the VGA cable!
Nice!  yes
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« Reply #165 on: May 15, 2012, 08:40:11 AM »
Quote from: stayouttadabunker on May 15, 2012, 01:47:59 AM
oh....that is waay cool!  Hail
It appears that the non-inverted signals come through the red and blue wires,
get converted via the piggyback board
and out through the VGA cable!
Nice!  yes

Quote from: Neonkiss on February 18, 2010, 11:08:19 PM
I know for a fact that this is used in Columbia Casinos. I have a friend here in the states that was introduced to this conversion.
Parts are very scarce down there and sometimes you have to do what you have to do to get machines up and running. This originated as a very crude hack. It was double sided taped to the top of the MPU with the hole cut into the front of the card cage for the video adapter to plug into. Wires were soldered onto legs of the chips and it was not a pretty install. It is currently being worked on here in the states and should be made available within 6 months.

My posting is referencing the origination of this modification. I am in no way saying that is what is being offered in the post above. However a solution to this will be made available here in the US soon.

Ya, That's what I was talking about two years ago back on post 26.
Man, it has been a long time.....
My friend never got to persue this conversion as he has been jammed up with his own backend casino system.
I did send him an email and he has conformed that this is the board he saw being installed. He said he was working on installing his system when a tech was installing this on a PE + machine next to him. At that time they were having problems with screen size using that board and didn't know if it was an issue with the LCD they were using or the board. He also stated he never did see if they fixed those issues.
I would have to say that this should be a workable solution given the previous post with pictures. That screen looks really good.
Now we need to buy just one.....
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« Reply #166 on: May 15, 2012, 01:20:47 PM »
Quote from: Neonkiss on May 15, 2012, 08:40:11 AM
Ya, That's what I was talking about two years ago back on post 26.
Man, it has been a long time.....

Don't time just fly when you're having fun?  Tongue Out
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« Reply #167 on: May 16, 2012, 06:16:34 AM »
If we could get our hands on one of the working boards, I know someone who could figure it out for sure and we could make them cheaply.

ronaldolai, do you have a working board that I could buy from you so we can figure out how it works and figure out how to make them so they're not so expensive?
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« Reply #168 on: May 16, 2012, 01:17:40 PM »
Quote from: stayouttadabunker on May 15, 2012, 01:47:59 AM
oh....that is waay cool!  Hail
It appears that the non-inverted signals come through the red and blue wires,
get converted via the piggyback board
and out through the VGA cable!
Nice!  yes

Actually, the RED (rojo) and BLUE (azul) wires in the picture are the Sync signals and the 10 pin header soldered on the right side (output) of U45 is the unmixed inverted signal, which is sent to then sent to the piggyback.
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« Reply #169 on: May 16, 2012, 02:09:18 PM »
I bought the 8220 board do u have the pinout to connect the machines signal i dont get any signal and what conector do u use the cga 5 pin or the p11  does it work fine or has the colors probkem?
Quote from: knagl on February 26, 2012, 09:48:03 PM

The GBS-8220 serves as a frequency doubler. It's converting 15mhz CGA to 30mhz VGA (that's what a doubler does). In your setup it is proven that it's doing that successfully since you have a viewable picture on your VGA monitor.
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« Reply #170 on: May 16, 2012, 02:55:32 PM »
The photo of the piggyback board shows that the chip has had its markings removed. Any guess as to this chip being off the shelf logic or a custom programmed PAL or GAL?
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« Reply #171 on: May 27, 2012, 03:00:41 PM »
Progress.

Details shortly.

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« Reply #172 on: May 27, 2012, 03:16:29 PM »
Quote from: PowderMaker on May 27, 2012, 03:00:41 PM
Progress.

Details shortly.

Nice! I look forward to your details!
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« Reply #173 on: May 27, 2012, 07:23:01 PM »
Quote from: knagl on May 27, 2012, 03:16:29 PM
Quote from: PowderMaker on May 27, 2012, 03:00:41 PM
Progress.

Details shortly.

Nice! I look forward to your details!
Me, too! Me, too! +1 (Karma, or whatever) for your efforts! Clap

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« Reply #174 on: May 28, 2012, 12:25:10 AM »
That's great!
It's the first clear picture of a PE+ game on an LCD screen I've seen!
Great job!  Clap

Kudo's + to ya!  yes

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