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« on: September 25, 2008, 12:42:58 AM »

 Thought I would pass this along from the old site,  this is a CRT to LCD conversion on a PE+ Poker Game. The company who did this was out of the U.S., here is the info and photo's  and exact message they posted, thought this was very cool! : ( via slotace)

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« on: January 25, 2008, 03:02:09 PM » 

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HI TO ALL
I really appreciatte the comments about this, about the interface we have a little business in colombia we are development devices for better working equipment and the interface are one of them, we have another things like hopper emulator that pay like a hopper whitout physical hopper in machine the interface vga are commercial and the nearly cost is  90 dollars (shipment are not included) we can sell or trade whit someone if are interested, this interface are tested too in cherry master games and aristocrat games, now we are working in version 2.0 for better resolution, the only purpose that we have is made easy the work of slot techs in different machines, at soon that is posible we put the link for our web page where do you see a complet list for devices that we are development, like a lcd counters for replace the mechanical counters in machines and autoreset tilt igt error codes, the interfce are avalaible for anyone that needs, this idea borns because in our country the parts for slot machines are very expensive and sometimes are hard to get, we want offer real solutions for troubles whit less cost for people one more time very thanks for this commnets this say to us that we are keeping our ideas for better service for slot machines.


THANKS FOR READ


GENIUSSLOT

 


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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2008, 08:12:47 PM »

hola viejo espero este bien estoy interesado en la interface para el lcd   mi correo  escalibur1703@hotmail.com y estoy en colombia
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2008, 10:44:40 PM »

hola viejo espero este bien estoy interesado en la interface para el lcd   mi correo  escalibur1703@hotmail.com y estoy en colombia

Translation any one ??? Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2008, 11:03:30 PM »

I think...I may be wrong...he's interested in the LCD conversion.
He gave his email addy and lives in columbia?
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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2008, 02:15:49 AM »

hola viejo espero este bien estoy interesado en la interface para el lcd   mi correo  escalibur1703@hotmail.com y estoy en colombia


Translation any one ??? Smiley


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Hello old man, I hope you are good/well. I am interested in this interface for LCD. My mail: escalibur1703@hotmail.com  and I am in Columbia.


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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2008, 11:16:18 AM »

Another site one can use for translations is  http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_txt  which offers several European language choices.
Neither one of these sites is perfect but the one can usually get the gist of the post.
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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2008, 11:28:45 PM »

On the other site one of the fellows submitted a post where he used a single chip hex inverter, showed how to use it on a bread board.
he simply put it inline to the back of the monitor It looked rather simple and easy to make.
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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2009, 03:34:16 AM »

What is their contact info I would like to know what the cost is for the PE+ LCD kits.
Thank you in advanced
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« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2009, 04:24:02 AM »

I found this and I would give them a call...
they might be able to help you...
Look on page 17 and 18 of their website pages.
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http://www.mcmelectronics.com/content/ProductData/Catalog52/section07.pdf
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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2009, 04:37:25 AM »

Would you have his contact info for that in line bread board ?
Thanks in advanced
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« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2009, 01:28:04 PM »

Jay seems to know more about that thread than I do.
I googled around and found a website called http://www.makeyourownchip.com/products.html
This came up on hex convertors...
I thought it was probably the reason why my machine never hits the Jackpot... rotflmao

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« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2010, 10:09:49 PM »

Did anyone every get more info on or purchase the CRT to LCD converter board? I'm still looking for a way to do this.

Thanks!
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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2010, 10:48:18 PM »

Did anyone every get more info on or purchase the CRT to LCD converter board? I'm still looking for a way to do this.

You and me both.

No, the original poster never returned to the site and we don't have any contact information for him.  I'm in the process of trying to convert a PE+ to use an LCD VGA monitor -- I'm using one of the CGA to VGA converters that can be found on eBay -- we've been making progress, but I've been sidetracked with other projects of late and haven't had a chance to work on it in a while.  I'll post here if we're ever successful.
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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2010, 11:37:22 AM »

Hello All

Ceronix now has a direct replacement LCD that will work on the PE+. Have not done a PE+ yet but was very happy with their replacement LCD for WMS bluebird.

http://www.happ.com/monitors/491132600.htm

You can also get it directly from Ceronix.

The signal is CGA and also some timing signals are inverted (this is what the mod fixes) - Once you have the correct CGA signal you could use the CGA to VGA convertor.

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« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2010, 08:10:04 PM »

The signal is CGA and also some timing signals are inverted (this is what the mod fixes) - Once you have the correct CGA signal you could use the CGA to VGA convertor.

Ian-

Do you know anything more about the timing signals that are inverted?  I'm just a home user, and $500 for the Ceronix replacement is simply too much for my budget (I have two machines I'd like to convert).  I guess what I'm asking is, how would I get the "correct" CGA signal?  Thanks in advance!
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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2010, 05:34:00 PM »

Hi Knagl

I am not to sure on the specifics but I remember a post on the old site where somebody changed or piggybacked a chip on the main board. I will try and get you more information from a guy that repairs monitors here in SA.

I see that Happ sells CGA to VGA converters for around $70 - How much were the ones on EBAY ?
Since you dont need a touchscreen just about any LCD will work as long as you are prepared to make some kind of bracket for it

Ps - I think Geniusslot is now ERtech -  The English products page on his site does not sem to work but you can check this http://www.freewebs.com/ertech-gaming/productos.htm

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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2010, 09:14:58 PM »

I am not to sure on the specifics but I remember a post on the old site where somebody changed or piggybacked a chip on the main board. I will try and get you more information from a guy that repairs monitors here in SA.


Spectacular!  applause  Thank you in advance!


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I see that Happ sells CGA to VGA converters for around $70 - How much were the ones on EBAY ?


I bought the GBS-8220 -- it costs around $50.



The $80 one from Happ is an earlier model of that converter board.  Essentially the same thing, though.  According to jammaboards.com, the model that Happ is selling has been discontinued and has been replaced by the GBS-8220 that I bought.


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Since you dont need a touchscreen just about any LCD will work as long as you are prepared to make some kind of bracket for it


Yep.  I snagged a small LCD VGA monitor on eBay for a very low price -- I'll just have to figure out how to mount it in my machine once we get it working.


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Ps - I think Geniusslot is now ERtech -  The English products page on his site does not sem to work but you can check this http://www.freewebs.com/ertech-gaming/productos.htm


That's great!  I'm sure that's him -- the picture on the website of the machine is the same picture posted at the top of this thread, right down to the order of playing cards on the screen!  At least now there's a way to contact him (through that site) -- I wouldn't be opposed to paying him for a plug-and-play board if I can't get my CGA to VGA converter working with my PE+.  Thanks so much for posting that link, and K+ to you.  Please let me/us know if you hear anything from your friend that repairs monitors.   Hail
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« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2010, 01:41:20 AM »

The CGA to VGA is good but it doesn't do the inverseing of signals.
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« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2010, 02:00:25 AM »

Is that needed for the PE+, Jay?
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« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2010, 02:06:27 AM »

Yes.

Thats the crux of the problem. You can put a multi-sync LCD in place but your colors will all be inverted.

I was thinking that if we could modify the CapChips we could invert in software.

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« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2010, 02:47:23 AM »

Hello

I´am a geniusslot friend, to this time he retired to the company and work in his own projects under sas and progressive systems, however he told me that the vga converter is still avalaible and the price is low and this board works whit cherry master and aristocrat whit 15 khz monitors too, if somebody wants a further details contact the company under ertechg@hotmail.com and ask for Mr Elkin Tabares the phone number is 57(4)2346413. He can send all information about this units.

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« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2010, 03:51:06 AM »

 Clap Clap Clap

Thank you for the information!  I will send an e-mail as I'd be interested in buying two of those units if the price is low.
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« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2010, 06:20:11 AM »

Clap Clap Clap

Thank you for the information!  I will send an e-mail as I'd be interested in buying two of those units if the price is low.

Kevin,

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« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2010, 09:54:46 AM »

Certainly I would be in however I think we would want to test 1 unit before we commit to buying a bunch.
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« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2010, 01:38:03 PM »

Certainly I would be in however I think we would want to test 1 unit before we commit to buying a bunch.

I agree.  I'm not confident the colors are being translated accurately (maybe bad screenshots) and would like to see one running to be confident.
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