1988 IGT Jackpot Jungle

[Yoeddy1]

Would $300 be fair for this machine if everything works and in good shape?  I am not familiar with this one.  Anyone have any videos?

[tollguy316]

Hello...   $300 for any S+ is not bad; If it includes the Bill validator , then it's a really good deal. But  JACKPOT JUNGLE is really a very boring game IMO.  Good Luck, Bill

[Yoeddy1]

Hello...   $300 for any S+ is not bad; If it includes the Bill validator , then it's a really good deal. But  JACKPOT JUNGLE is really a very boring game IMO.  Good Luck, Bill

Hi Bill, why is it a boring game?  I'm not an enthusiast by any means and don't really know what to look for.  I would appreciate the insight.

[tollguy316]

This is just an opinion; but an opinion most likely shared by many on this sight.  The Jackpot Jungle's only feature is that the JACKPOT JUNGLE is Wild.  It's a very basic game in general as opposed to other game features like 2x, 3x,5x, Spin til you win, Bars notching up to  ( or down) to the payline, Haywire feature( where certain winning spins will repay the win several times over). 

[rickhunter]

for $300 is still a good deal if it includes a bill validator and a hopper.  You can always change the theme later, which you will do anyway.  That being said, if you are close to one of our many dealers, you could probably get an S2000 for 3 or 4 more bills and be more up to date, but $300 for an S+ is still good as an entry point.  I paid around $1,000 for my S+

[jay]

In terms of desireability it depends what kind of S+ you are looking at.

THe hirearchy is: SLANT TOP (Sit down machine), 9" - also called crop top, 16" and Round Top.
In terms of attractiveness - you get more graphics on the 16" and Round Tops so they are more desireable than the others.

I have seen Slants going from $50-$100 in the past..... $250-$500 is average. These are heavy machines and if you are considering putting it downstairs make sure you can navigate the angles and have enough buddies to get it there. Deep Freezers are easier to move.

$300 for a upright S+ is a good deal as oultined in the previous posts. This applies to  any theme. If you want to check out the list of games look at Ricks FAQs and choose IGT game bible.

Some of the things I would ask about is the Mylar finish on the sides - chips, peeling etc sometimes show that this machine may have come from the NewOrleans area and it may have some water damage (Katrina left overs).

Once you have your platform you can start collecting S+ game kits.
A game kit is Glass + Reel stips + Chips

A gamekit goes for anywhere from $40 - $200 ...again the hirearchy appies ..... round top kits go for more because there are less of them slants go for less.
People seem to want 3 coin games more than 2 coin games and 5 coins (rare) are even more desired. Mult-line games tend to be more fun... etc.

Escentially a game kit allows you to morph a 1 line 2coin machine into any other game... 5 line 5 coin for instance.
If you check out the link called RICKS FAQs on our home page there is a lot of info on how to do a game change. Takes less than 15min.

I own two 9" and a 16" - I have about 60 game kits and have basically collected both a 9" and 16" top glass so I can play my game in either style of machine.

 If you have any questions feel free to ask.... No dumb questions here.

[Yoeddy1]

Here are some photos of the machine.  He mentioned that the the battery was dead.  He removed the battery from the board and added a "battery pack" and that everything has worked fine since then.  Any thoughts there?  The front chrome looks like it may have a snarf it it above the "O" on the word Jackpot.  Perhaps a decal of some sort would be appropriate to cover it up or if there's a way to polish it out.  Only takes quarters.

He's currently at $300, and mentioned that his price is negotiable.  What do you guys think?  Any ideas on the weight of this thing and dimensions?

[CaptainHappy]

It is definately an older machine, and it DEFINATELY does not have a bill validator! 

  For that fact I would pass for sure.

Was it a local item, or were you going to have it shipped to you?

CaptainHappy
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[Yoeddy1]

It is definately an older machine, and it DEFINATELY does not have a bill validator!  

  For that fact I would pass for sure.

Was it a local item, or were you going to have it shipped to you?


CaptainHappy
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No shipping...I'd drive about 50 miles to pick it up.

[StatFreak]

Forget it. Boring game. Outdated machine. There are much better options out there.

[jay]

I would also say forget it but for a slightly different reason.

IF you look a the reel glass for most of the S+ machines. The credit windows, winner paid etc are across the bottom. This one is to the right.
While not totally impossible to find, the reel glass for this is harder to come (insert expensive) by especially if you want to swap it out for a 3 line, 5 line or the ever elusive 9line theme.

This potentially could even be an S and not a S+ can't say for sure.

[StatFreak]

I would also say forget it but for a slightly different reason.

IF you look a the reel glass for most of the S+ machines. The credit windows, winner paid etc are across the bottom. This one is to the right.
While not totally impossible to find, the reel glass for this is harder to come (insert expensive) by especially if you want to swap it out for a 3 line, 5 line or the ever elusive 9line theme.

This potentially could even be an S and not a S+ can't say for sure.

That's what I meant by outdated. I figured that it could very well be be an S, which would severely limit theme selection when swapping. I would not recommend an S as someone's first slot. The machine has extinct reel glass and no DBV. Couple that with the fact that Jackpot Jungle is an older game with no color (they were still using black bar symbols back then), no multiplier, no nudges, no respin, no haywire...

Buy a nice clean S+, or even an S2000, even if you still want Jackpot Jungle. Once you get bored with it, you'll be glad to have a newer machine and a host of kit choices available to you.

[stayouttadabunker]

I'm gonna shoot myself in the foot and stand up and say that it's the earliest S+ version...
I don't think it's an "M" version.
I have a few of those and I have to agree with the guys...
it's not a very exciting game at all and it's such an old version that good game kits for this one
will cause you to change a lot of things to update it - starting with the reel glass for instance.
The door in this version wasn't designed to accept a DBV and
it would be next to impossible to try to retro fit a DBV to fit into it.
So IGT's next version I believe was to make a bill acceptor to fit into the reel glass where the small display board is on the right hand side.
That's when they came up with the display across the bottom of the reel glass.
You'll be banging your head    and wishing for the newer S+ with the display across the top of the buttons at the very least
You'll be much happier if you shopped around for an newer S+ or even better yet...an S2000.

[rickhunter]

It's an early S+, I would wait around and try to pickup an S+ with the DBV integrated on it.  Or an S2000.

[Yoeddy1]

He said that he would take $225 for it.  This is more of an every now and then play toy.  Bill validator is not a huge deal to me.  I guess if I can drop coins in, pull the arm or press the reel spin button and it pays out...I'm good.  Would 225 even be fair for a unit like this for the "non" enthusiast?

[tollguy316]

Not having a bill validator is actually a pretty big deal to most.  You'll quickly get tired of constantly putting in quarters.   You seem convinced that you want  the machine though...    I'd still recommend holding out for a machine with a bill validator ; even If it comes with a boring game because you can always switch out the game kit.  It's much more costly and time consuming to add a bill validator to the machine you're looking at.  My recommendation......pass

[StatFreak]

Well, you know what they say: "My confused is made up, don't remind me with facts."  

[Yoeddy1]

Welll, I'm still on the fence.  $200 for this machine, or spend 5-600 on up for an updated model.  Can replacement chips, bulbs, parts be obtained for this model?  I just look at this machine vs. the same price as a crummy Pachislo...seems like good value.  I'm not really buying a machine to use all the time...it's more of a novelty that friends can pull a few times when they're over.  For that purpose stated, doesn't that seem like an ok deal?  I know you guys are enthusiasts, but I don't think I could find what you are all describing for 2 bills right?

[jay]

You can probably get a S+ for about $350... contact the vendors on the home page.
The difference however might be shipping cost....as the one you have is close enough that you can pick it up.

[a69mopar]

$200 is a short night at a casino.  If you want it, buy it, we all started somewhere.  You did say it was working ok didn't you?  When you get the itch for more, which you will, then you can shell out a few more bucks.

w

[StatFreak]

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I'm not really buying a machine to use all the time...it's more of a novelty that friends can pull a few times when they're over.  For that purpose stated, doesn't that seem like an ok deal? 
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$200 is a short night at a casino.  If you want it, buy it, we all started somewhere.  You did say it was working ok didn't you?  When you get the itch for more, which you will, then you can shell out a few more bucks.

w

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I think anyone who has posted more than about 15 times is probably an addict! 
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Well Yoeddy1, you're almost there. Only four posts to go.  

Seriously, it sounds like you had already made up your mind to buy it before posting and have been looking for validation. Believe me, I've done the same thing many times with purchases of items that I really wanted and couldn't fully justify.

In Star Trek, the Ferengi five stages of acquisition (as written by Ira Steven Behr, and slightly modified by me) are: infatuation, justification, obsession, appropriation, and resale. While it may be Star Trek, that doesn't invalidate Ira's observation (which he probably based on the five stages of grief).

(Mr. Behr's original order, which can be found on the internet, puts appropriation ahead of obsession. I firmly believe that obsession comes before appropriation. So I guess that these are StatFreak's Ferengi rules of acquisition. )

It sounds like you've finished stage three and are ready for stage four. Buy the machine and enjoy it.

[stayouttadabunker]

The rules above can also apply when chasing out women to be with....

[rickhunter]

(Mr. Behr's original order, which can be found on the internet, puts appropriation ahead of obsession. I firmly believe that obsession comes before appropriation. So I guess that these are StatFreak's Ferengi rules of acquisition. )

I think Mr. Behr has a point though.  Don't we all have the machines already, and are we not obsessed even more after we have them?  Can you be obsessed with a device you do not yet own?  I think Infatuation is the correct term for something we do not yet own, but want REALLY BAD  I guess it comes down to a matter semantics. 

[StatFreak]

(Mr. Behr's original order, which can be found on the internet, puts appropriation ahead of obsession. I firmly believe that obsession comes before appropriation. So I guess that these are StatFreak's Ferengi rules of acquisition. )

I think Mr. Behr has a point though.  Don't we all have the machines already, and are we not obsessed even more after we have them?  Can you be obsessed with a device you do not yet own?  I think Infatuation is the correct term for something we do not yet own, but want REALLY BAD  I guess it comes down to a matter semantics. 

I see infatuation as the first stage of developing a desire for the object in question. Once one becomes enamored, once has to justify their need for the object. At that point, it depends on whether or not the person can obtain the object immediately or not. I realized, after posting last night, that obsession can belong on both sides of acquisition. If one obtains the object of their desire shortly after justifying their need, then there is no obsession prior to acquisition. However, if, as is the case with many expensive toys, it takes months or years to purchase the object, then obsession definitely sets in prior to purchase. I ended up putting obsession first because most of the cool toys that I've wanted over the decades required time to acquire. So at the end of the day, it's personal experience that caused me to change their order.

[jay]

Stout - I would drop Justification from that list when it comes to women..... and per resale.... hmmmm