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« on: October 14, 2009, 05:42:37 PM »
The problem I had was when I played and hit a payout ( credit pay ) it would stop then start the payout again but this happened every once in awhile. I changed my game chip and noticed the SP chip was not all the way in..When I pushed the SP chip in everything started to work like it should...Just wondering if that SP chip is not all the way in or loose  would that cause this? Hope this makes sense.
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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2009, 05:57:50 PM »
Will never mind as soon as I posted this it started again it would just stop and start....MMMMM any suggestions?
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2009, 05:59:26 PM »
Are you talking about the hopper "paying out"?
Is it spitting out coins intermittently?
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2009, 06:08:18 PM »
No it's  when you're playing it will stop then start again...I spin the reels then it stops then starts..Could a bad ground wire cause this??
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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2009, 06:19:42 PM »
Did you check the pins on your SS "reel" chip?
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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2009, 06:24:31 PM »
Yes the reel chip is seated fine, I have it for credit collect only...When I tightened the ground wire it seemed to work just fine....Just wondering if there is any other things to check? I have just a little knowledge on these machines, but could use a lot of help.....Thanks
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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2009, 07:08:03 PM »
I don't quite understand the behavior of the machine, can you post a video of it?
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2009, 07:19:59 PM »
I wish I could....It works great for awhile then all of a sudden the reels stop the display goes off, then it comes back on and the reels spin again....MMMMMM  Scratch Head Scratch Head Scratch Head
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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2009, 07:27:09 PM »
Display goes off? Sounds like some kind of a short to me.  Have you taken out the power supply and looked inside it for coins or other loose metallic object inside?  All power supplies I have disassembled have had some sort of coin or objects inside. Might be worth a look inside for you.
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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2009, 07:31:31 PM »
Yes I have thanks so much ..All looks great,,,,Good it be the optic not lining up?????
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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2009, 07:39:22 PM »
There's a possibility of that, but if it happens with enough frequency, you begin to get 41,42, or 43 errors, at least that's been my experience.  One time I opened the door while the game was playing and got a 41 error that was near impossible to clear.  I had to use a ram clear chip to get the game working again.
Do you have a spare power supply you could try?  Do the lights (Flourescent) go off too, or just the LED display?
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« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2009, 08:11:35 PM »
The lights do not go off just the display and the reels stop suddenly but soon restart....I do have extra power supplies...Thanks
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« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2009, 08:29:37 PM »
Quote from: AcePeter on October 14, 2009, 08:11:35 PM
The lights do not go off just the display and the reels stop suddenly but soon restart....I do have extra power supplies...Thanks


I bet it's a power problem...if you open the door and close the door during a game, the game will not just continue on - it would error.  BUT, if you un-plug the power from the machine and plug it back in - the game would continue.  But you mention your fluorescent lights stay on.  I bet it's the power cable from the power supply to the motherboard.  This cable is a common problem - and I bet yours is working most of the time.  Check out the link to the post below - it tells you what to look for...

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=4078.msg34231#msg34231

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« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2009, 08:48:53 PM »
Quote from: dpalmi on October 14, 2009, 08:29:37 PM
I bet it's a power problem...if you open the door and close the door during a game, the game will not just continue on - it would error.  BUT, if you un-plug the power from the machine and plug it back in - the game would continue.  But you mention your fluorescent lights stay on.  I bet it's the power cable from the power supply to the motherboard.  This cable is a common problem - and I bet yours is working most of the time.

Dan #2 beat me to it -- I agree 100% -- it's a seemingly common problem and the symptoms match (that the game will restart as if nothing was wrong).  If you can replace the cable that he posted a picture of, I'd bet that your problem would go away.
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« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2009, 08:56:12 PM »
Thanks I will do that and let you ( y'all ) know........ waving flag American Flag American Flag American Flag American Flag
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« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2009, 10:51:06 PM »
Well I just played the machine for about 4 hours with no incident...Maybe it just need reseated???
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« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2009, 12:12:26 AM »
Keep your fingers crossed though...once it starts acting like that, it will only happen again.
What is going on I think is that the molex for the motherboard is going bad.
The pins are starting to oxidize - giving you intermittent power.
It's best to make another power connector or buy a good used one.
If you give me a day, I can give you all the details on how to
make your own connector and it'll be like brand new!
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« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2009, 12:41:46 AM »
Mark will also vouch (I hope) that DeOxit by Caig Labs sprayed into the connector may eat up the oxidation. I think Rat Shack sold it at one time.
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« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2009, 12:45:58 AM »
yes,
but because of the high heat caused from the arcing inside the molex
(That's why they turn brownish color)
the tensile spring strength of the receptor pins are not the same as new ones
which "bite/grab" the motherboard pins better...
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« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2009, 12:50:42 AM »
Thanks to you all and karma...
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« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2009, 08:39:48 AM »
Well I put a new ( from another machine ) harness from the power supply to the motherboard and all is working like it should.. I played it for 5 to 6 hours without an issue. Thanks to all for replying... applause applause waving flag
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« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2009, 12:48:32 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2009, 06:48:42 PM »
Hey stayouttadabunker Hail Hail Hail Hail if you get a chance show me how to make one..Thank you that would be great to know.... Hail Hail Hail Hail Hail Hail Hail
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« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2009, 06:53:13 PM »
Oh, yeah...I forgot hey...
I don't have my molex connectors and receptor pins here with me at home but
I'll get on it sometime Monday at work okay?
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