How Obama won.

[rickhunter]

Someone sent me this today, it's been around for a while, but it was the first time I ever saw it.

THE COW AND THE ICE CREAM


From a teacher in the Nashville area

"We are worried about "the cow" when it is all about the "Ice Cream"

The most eye-opening civics lesson I ever had was while teaching third grade this year.
The presidential election was heating up and some of the children showed an interest.
I decided we would have an election for a class president.

We would choose our nominees. They would make a campaign speech and the class would vote.

To simplify the process, candidates were nominated by other class members.
We discussed what kinds of characteristics these students should have.
We got many nominations and from those, Jamie and Olivia were picked to run for the top spot.

The class had done a great job in their selections. Both candidates were good kids.
I thought Jamie might have an advantage because he got lots of parental support.
I had never seen Olivia's mother.

The day arrived when they were to make their speeches.
Jamie went first.
He had specific ideas about how to make our class a better
place. He ended by promising to do his very best.
Everyone applauded and he sat down.

Now is was Olivia's turn to speak.

Her speech was concise.
She said, "If you will vote for me, I will give you ice cream."
She sat down.
The class went wild. "Yes! Yes!
We want ice cream."

She surely would say more. She did not have to.
A discussion followed. How did she plan to pay for the ice cream?
She wasn't sure.
Would her parents buy it or would the class pay for it.
She didn't know.
The class really didn't care.
All they were thinking about was ice cream.

Jamie was forgotten. Olivia won by a landslide.

Every time Barack Obama opened his mouth he offered ice cream and
52 percent of the people reacted like nine year olds.
They want ice cream.
The other 48 percent know
they're going to have to feed the cow and clean up the mess."

Remember, the government cannot give anything to anyone ---
that they have not first taken away from someone else.

[tacman]

Amen! Simple, Direct, Accurate but when it comes to Obama or any Democrat really, its just not ice cream because thats the trip word for only one group of people. They use candy, soda, popcorn and any other lure to catch all those "other" groups that are looking for the one thing that is most important to themselves. My mom is 75 and complains that they are not giving social security any raises but Medicare is going up. I told her to contact AARP and other senior lobbying groups and have them demand from congress why 18-35 year olds are getting monthly SSI payments for bullshit like asthma and not working a day in their life nor contributing to the system they are getting these payments from. The bottom line is voluntary slavery, buying votes through social programs.

 Dan (tacman)

[PWRSTROKE]

Obama is the greatest pres. ever -I have some more "good" words about him -If you wish to PM me--- .  I WORK for a living.  O-KMA-  No pun intended towards all the sorry-ass dead-beats that do not want to get off their butts and get a job- This is the "New America" -Crack-heads,meth heads,etc. etc.  Drug use up probably 1000% since He took office.  I am trying to refrain myself with this.  

[rickhunter]

It is a sad state of affairs in which we are now.  Tens of thousands lined up in detroit for their "Fair share" of stimulus money, I believe the sum was 1.5MM.  Supposedly it was to help 3,500 people or so who are on the brink of loosing their home and or have their utilities turned off, but most people just thought it was a "stimulus money free for all".

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/19v5Kjmc8FI&rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/19v5Kjmc8FI&rel=0</a>

[PWRSTROKE]

Rick,  I did not watch the clip but I did not have to.  I live with it now and have seen this before.  No need in being upset anymore about the ways now.  I see  it daily here and I am a HARD worker and watch folks -some of which I see daily do better than myself by beating the system etc..   B.

[rickhunter]

It's not video actually, it's just a clip from a radio interview of some of the people in line.  My father-in-law is cuban.  He lived under the communist rule while waiting 20 YEARS for his exit visa.  He saw the whole revolution and the transformation of Cuba by Fidel Castro (You know the guy the Black Caucus call "an amazing man", and Michael Moore adores).  He tells me stories on how everything is rationed, you get a "coupon book" for the RIGHT to buy whatever the coupon says you can buy.  And it's a first come first served basis, in other words, just because you have a coupon, doesn't mean you are going to get it.  And this coupon includes EVERYTHING you can buy FOOD included.  So whenever people see lines, they just stand in line in hopes to get whatever they are selling so they can "Trade it" to someone else who might have an "extra" of what they need (of course if you don't have the right coupon, you can't buy it).  There's a MAJOR black market for goods in Cuba where you can buy anything you want, but there's a catch, they must be purchased using "Pesos Convertibles" which is currency you get by trading in Dollars.  So if you have no source for US dollars, you don't get to participate in the black market, and of course, the black market ir un by the Military and other people in power.  I'm not saying America will get there, I don't think even the MOST LEFTIST LIBERALS would like to see that, but seeing those lines in detroit of all those people waiting for a "handout" is totally pathetic.  At least in Cuba you stand on line to PAY for something, they are not handouts.

[OhioGaming]

http://www.gallup.com/poll/123806/Obama-Quarterly-Approval-Average-Slips-Nine-Points.aspx#

October 21, 2009

PRINCETON, NJ -- In Gallup Daily tracking that spans Barack Obama's third quarter in office (July 20 through Oct. 19), the president averaged a 53% job approval rating. That is down sharply from his prior quarterly averages, which were both above 60%.

In fact, the 9-point drop in the most recent quarter is the largest Gallup has ever measured for an elected president between the second and third quarters of his term, dating back to 1953. One president who was not elected to his first term -- Harry Truman -- had a 13-point drop between his second and third quarters in office in 1945 and 1946.

[delma]

It's a  funny thing about socialists; give one an inch and the next thing you know he'll be president.  Further, have you ever noticed how Obama thinks nothing is impossible as long as somebody else has to pay for it?

[rdaniel]

I have heard much about "socialism" recently, but I realize that most of you don't know what it means. It seems that all of the "righties" out there who fear socialism but have no idea what the philosophy means. Perhaps you can give me a few of your intelligent definitions.

[tacman]

 so·cial·ism
Pronunciation: \ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\
Function: noun
Date: 1837
1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

Is that good enough for you? Hmmm, lets see GM & Chrysler, many banking institutions- seems like that fits

 Dan (tacman) and proud "Rightie"

[Joeylc]

I have heard much about "socialism" recently, but I realize that most of you don't know what it means. It seems that all of the "righties" out there who fear socialism but have no idea what the philosophy means. Perhaps you can give me a few of your intelligent definitions.

you made this to easy see link http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=4918 PLAY VIDEO ...


Hmmmmm I See You Live in the CCC

COMMUNIST COUNTRY OF CALIFORNIA.  That explains a lot 

[rdaniel]

Thanks for the Websters definition of socialism.  Your fears are unfounded. The government does not own nor control the means or production or the distribution of goods. Nor is there any attempts to do so. If you read the papers and listen to the radio or TV it seems that there is an effort not to interfere in the operations of the companies receiving bailout money WITH the exception of curbing the obscene salaries they are making. 

The means or production are not owned or controlled by the government AND there is plenty of private property in the USA

Your final comment regarding the unequal distribution of wealth is very interesting. Under our system fat cat system CEO's make 50-100 times the pay of the average worker, so thats really fair since the CEO's are not the ones who make the company profitable. In our system the workers are not tryuely valued for their contribution to the success of the company.

Just remember there is a large difference between democratic socialism and communism. Think Finland, Sweden, Norway, Israel etc. are they communist countries??

And whats wrong with California. We lead and the rest of the country follows.

Yeah I am from California

[Joeylc]

And whats wrong with California. We lead and the rest of the country follows.

Yeah I am from California

 
 
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/iCcNmbWCU94&rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/iCcNmbWCU94&rel=0</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/VwwdQdrtmwU&rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/VwwdQdrtmwU&rel=0</a>

[delma]

 

 

[brichter]

Your final comment regarding the unequal distribution of wealth is very interesting. Under our system fat cat system CEO's make 50-100 times the pay of the average worker, so thats really fair since the CEO's are not the ones who make the company profitable. In our system the workers are not tryuely valued for their contribution to the success of the company.

Just remember there is a large difference between democratic socialism and communism. Think Finland, Sweden, Norway, Israel etc. are they communist countries??

And whats wrong with California. We lead and the rest of the country follows.

Yeah I am from California

Sure you live in the same California I do? Fat Cat CEO salaries are worldwide, my friend, not just in America. I worked hard to get where I am, now it seems like I should just quit my job and get on the government tit. My last bonus was taxed at 53%.

The only problem is, when everyone is doing just that, there's no revenue to support the system and the tit runs dry.

As far as what's wrong with California, just take a look at our dysfunctional government that can't even pass a budget on time and you'll see.  Meanwhile, the greenies are trying to take away every bit of land used for recreation, and they're doing it with absolutely the worst science ever seen.

The roads here in one of the richest parts of the state are in a terrible state, but there's no money to fix them because the money earmarked for that keeps getting siphoned off for other pet projects.

We're a rich state, but we're in the bottom 15 for quality of schools, right? What's the dropout rate for CA schools? And don't we rate around 37th in the nation for per capita spending on students?

[Joeylc]

brichter you forgot about California Law 330.7 P.C. bla bla bla bla....

(a) It shall be a defense to any prosecution under this
chapter relating to slot machines, as defined in subdivision (d) of
Section 330b, if the defendant shows that the slot machine is an
antique slot machine and was not operated for gambling purposes while
in the defendant's possession.  For the purposes of this section,
the term "antique slot machine" means a slot machine that is over 25
years of age.
   (b) Notwithstanding Section 335a, whenever the defense provided by
subdivision (a) is offered, no slot machine seized from a defendant
shall be destroyed or otherwise altered until after a final court
determination that the defense is not applicable.  If the defense is
applicable, the machine shall be returned pursuant to provisions of
law providing for the return of property.
   (c) It is the purpose of this section to protect the collection
and restoration of antique slot machines not presently utilized for
gambling purposes because of their aesthetic interest and importance
in California history.

 

and all of the other dumb laws ca puts out...   

[brichter]

brichter you forgot about California Law 330.7 P.C. bla bla bla bla....

(a) It shall be a defense to any prosecution under this
chapter relating to slot machines, as defined in subdivision (d) of
Section 330b, if the defendant shows that the slot machine is an
antique slot machine and was not operated for gambling purposes while
in the defendant's possession.  For the purposes of this section,
the term "antique slot machine" means a slot machine that is over 25
years of age.
   (b) Notwithstanding Section 335a, whenever the defense provided by
subdivision (a) is offered, no slot machine seized from a defendant
shall be destroyed or otherwise altered until after a final court
determination that the defense is not applicable.  If the defense is
applicable, the machine shall be returned pursuant to provisions of
law providing for the return of property.
   (c) It is the purpose of this section to protect the collection
and restoration of antique slot machines not presently utilized for
gambling purposes because of their aesthetic interest and importance
in California history.

 

and all of the other dumb laws ca puts out...   

I didn't forget, I just got tired of going back and editing that post every time something else crossed my mind...

[Op-Bell]

What's wrong with California Law 330.7? Joey, you of all people should know better. Don't you realize this quoted passage was the first private slot possession law in the entire US, and everyone who can legally own one now - which includes all of you ranting about it - owes it to Jerry Kenzer and the small community of slot collectors in the 1970s who lobbied for it? Jeez. Oh wait a moment, did Glen Beck refer to it on TV or something? I can't imagine any other reason why you proud bunch of patriots would be criticizing a citizen's successful lobby of big bad government.

Here, turn off Faux News for a moment and read some freakin' history.

[brichter]

In the eyes of California law, anything that is not expressly forbidden is allowed.

Op, do you know the history of slot machine laws in California? What was the first law and what were the requirements of the law? Were all machines legal or illegal based on that law? I'm a n00b, so I only know the current laws.

[Op-Bell]

I'm writing from work and don't have my books handy, so this is the Reader's Digest Condensed Version from memory.

Gambling has never been entirely illegal in California - private card clubs have always operated legally. Slot machines were found in saloons and cigar stores since Gold Rush days and were made illegal in about 1910, thanks to the Temperance movement, but they continued to operate under cover of police and local government indifference. Governor Warren went after them starting in (I think) 1948, mainly because of the open and blatant Mob involvement. Warren shut down the gambling ships that operated off LA at the 12 mile limit, getting the Coast Guard to seize the ships and toss all the machines and tables over the side. He didn't actually have jurisdiction, but nobody was going to speak up for organized crime at the time of the Kefauver hearings. The draconian seizure law was passed by the Warren administration in 1951. It was a "zero tolerance" law requiring any mechanical gambling device to be seized and destroyed, with a $500 fine per device for the owner, no exceptions, no discretion. It was strongly enforced at first until the state was cleared of commercial gaming machines, then it was enforced sporadically when a cop happened to come across a collector. Those who fought back occasionally got a court to order their machines returned, though I think they still had to pay the fine. The Kenzer case was the biggest seizure. It brought an underground community of collectors and enthusiasts together to lobby for reform, and in a rare example of politicians exercising common sense, the AG ordered the case dropped and an amendment was put before the legislature within six weeks.

[ruttrunner1]

If California is so great, why have you all been comming to Arizona. Stay home and suffer the consequences of your liberal ways.

You are correct, California leads and we follow. You are bankrupt and we all will be soon. 

And how is it your business what someone else makes. Don't bail them out and you won't have a reason to complain.

 

[Op-Bell]

Some corrections to my post above: Earl Warren was the Attorney General, not the Governor. He started his anti-slot campaign when he was AG of Alameda County (Oakland) with major raids in 1927, 1933 and 1935, the last after several state officials were found to be on the take. Many slots were dumped in the harbor after these raids, but their owners hired divers to recover them and put them back out on the street. Warren was elected state AG in 1938 and went after Tony Cornero's gambling ships in 1939, then again in 1946. He ended up as chief justice on the Supreme Court in 1953, where strangely enough he turned libertarian and wrote a number of pro-4th Amendment decisions that would have prevented his earlier actions.... The California possession law took effect in July 1950 but slots remained active on Federal property (military bases) until 1951.

[brichter]

Ok, so it was the anti-alcohol crowd we have to thank for the complete ban. 

Too bad they didn't throw that out along with the repeal of Prohibition!

Thanks for the history lesson!

[Op-Bell]

Of course it was the anti-alcohol crowd at the bottom of it. The Temperance Movement was against lots of other things besides alcohol - they were against gambling too, and even against smoking - and there were a lot of them. Wikipedia lists 22 different organizations campaigning for prohibition, led by the Anti-Saloon League. Here's a notable temperance campaigner, Carry Nation, with her axe and bible. She and her followers used to walk into bars and smash the place up with axes.



Carry Nation's group, the Women's Christian Temperance Union, is still active today. They even have their own web site, which goes to great lengths to portray that the WTCU are all about having fun and enjoying yourself, though the pickle-eating contest is a clue to a darker side. I found this disturbing picture on the site, to which I can only say, "Is That A Promise?"

[stayouttadabunker]

Man,  that's an awful picture...
They look like they're all inbreeds...belch