Good deal or Not.

[daddy2yea]

Hey everybody  I  going to look  at an IGT 5Times pay tonight.  Its pre TITO and no bill validator.   Coin only.   The guy wants $299 For it.  Is that a Good deal being it has no bill validator, or just an OK price.  Also what are some of the things I should be looking for problem wise.  All replies welcome. 
Thanks,   Mike

[slotsteve]

they aren,t robbing you but i,m sure someone here can give you  a better  slot for alittle more cash  I,m in 24171  but cheapest I got would a I game  in 700+ range , good luck
Steve

[knagl]

For being on the east side of the country, that's not an awful price.  It's not spectacular, but it's not awful.  See if you can talk him down to $250?  

If you have a picture of it, that would be good to post.  If it's a multi-line game that adds to its value.  If it's a round top or a 16" top that adds to its value.

As far as what to look for, see if the mounting brackets are in place for the bill validator.  If it's a pre-validator machine, that complicates things a little as the only option would be to add a side-mount bill validator.  Again, a picture or two of the outside and the inside would help us to determine what specific model/generation machine it is.  Make sure there are no obvious signs of water damage (Katrina).  It should be very obvious if it's a Katrina machine (lots of rust, salt deposits, etc.).

See what kind of coins it's set for -- nickels (or nickel-sized tokens), quarters (or quarter-sized tokens) or dollar coins.  If it's dollar coins, it'll take a little bit of $$ to convert it to quarters or nickels, which is generally more desirable (some prefer the dollar tokens, but again that's an added expense...).

If you're able to,  .

[a69mopar]

For a working machine in decent condition, that's a great price.  Shipping a machine could cost you that much.  Are the reels quiet? 

Thanks,
Wayne

[Frank A]

Where is it ?
Frank A

[daddy2yea]

OK  its a round top. set for quarters and very clean.  The glass and reel strips have good color (no fading).  And yes the reels are quiet. So I bought it. I going to get it Saturday or Sunday depending on the weather. I will post pics as soon as I get it home.  Like mopar said it would cost almost as much as  I paid for the machine to have one shipped. So at $299 total I feel like a got a good deal.   The guy had posted it on craigslist, but was so vague that most people probably thought it was a skill stop machine which worked out good for me.     Frank it was in Richmond, VA.    Mike

[westec1]

Congratulations on your new machine

I think you got a good deal, now you will have to pick up some game kits for it

Wes

[Frank A]

Good deal. Best of luck with it. One word of warning, they seem to multiply once you bring one into the house.

Frank

[KirkLasVegas]

Frank is right, they multiply until the house is filled up...i found out first hand....

[daddy2yea]

Ok heres some pics so y'all can tell me what model IGT I got. Its in the garage until I find a spot in the house for it. I'm thinking the wife really doesn't need that dresser of hers.  That would make room for it and two more : .    I will post later if I need somewere to live. 
Mike

[Foster]

It is a IGT S+ Slot.

[PWRSTROKE]

Nice, Score there.  I know about the needing room/wife thing so I think we should start a "homeless section" here for us members that get the boot from our spouses because I think I am on the verge of needing that benifit package!!.-- .  Can we all start contributing to the fund now--I think I may need a "draw' here soon----- .  B.  --Nice Game

[KirkLasVegas]

Nice, Score there.  I know about the needing room/wife thing so I think we should start a "homeless section" here for us members that get the boot from our spouses because I think I am on the verge of needing that benifit package!!.-- .  Can we all start contributing to the fund now--I think I may need a "draw' here soon----- .  B.  --Nice Game

We have a spare room here...not full of machines as of yet.....

[OhioGaming]

It is an S+ slot.

[PWRSTROKE]

Kirk,  I may see the need to "sneak" out of the spare room to play some of your games -I am serious here--- .  But    I will have to bring ALL my babies (33 and counting) and parts with me- .  B.

[StatFreak]

I think we should organize a pilgrimage to Kirk's home in Las Vegas and have an NLG slot party.
... with free parting slots to every guest!  
He has all the cool toys!        

[tjkeller]

It is a IGT S+ Slot.

It is an S+ slot.

Just to throw it out there....Isn't this actually an S-Slot not S+?  

Reel Glass, Rectangle Buttons on deck, Coin Head on side, Main Board on side, No BV.....am I wrong?

[StatFreak]

It is a IGT S+ Slot.

It is an S+ slot.

Just to throw it out there....Isn't this actually an S-Slot not S+? 

Reel Glass, Rectangle Buttons on deck, Coin Head on side, Main Board on side, No BV.....am I wrong?

It's an early pre-dbv S+ from around 1989-1992. There is an S+ MPU board on the left side of the cabinet that plugs into a motherboard with an EEPROM. The S board doesn't plug into another board. It has three large wiring harnesses that come directly off of the board and is generally located in the back where the newer S+ boards go.

Here are pictures of an S board from previous posts:

[tjkeller]

It's an early pre-dbv S+ from around 1989-1992. There is an S+ MPU board on the left side of the cabinet that plugs into a motherboard with an EEPROM. The S board doesn't plug into another board and has three large wiring harnesses that come directly off of the board and is generally located in the back where the newer S+ boards go.

Thanks for setting me straight Stat!  
...just didn't seem right to me although there is a '92 on the ratchet mech.

[StatFreak]

I might be off a bit on my dates. If someone knows exactly when the S+ started to replace the S slot, and when the embedded DBV was introduced, please post.

I know that I won a progressive jackpot on an early pre-dbv S+ in December of 1991, and it was on a bank of fairly new machines. I had seen external DBVs in early 1991 but didn't see embedded DBVs until quite some time after hitting my jackpot.

[OhioGaming]

David .. this may or may not answer your question or questions others may have ..

I posted the second response that the machine was an S+ since Foster's original post stated it was an S model before editing. All S model CPU boards that I have encountered were mounted on the back wall and the S+ w/o internal DBV was mounted on the left wall. A CPU board for an early S+ model is has the self test switch mounted on the CPU mounting frame. The self test switch can be seen in the prevoius posted pictures.

From what I know the S model ended production in 89/90. The S+ w/o an internal DBV started production at that same time. Early models of the S+ continued to used the same retangle buttons as the S model. Sometime between 90 and 93 the change over to the square buttons occured. This may due to the stock IGT had and decided to deplete their inventory prior to a complete change over to the square button. There are 92 machines that I know that has the square button. I have never seen a 93 model w/o an internal DBV leading me to believe that is a very close date to the change.

[StatFreak]

David .. this may or may not answer your question or questions others may have ..

I posted the second response that the machine was an S+ since Foster's original post stated it was an S model before editing. All S model CPU boards that I have encountered were mounted on the back wall and the S+ w/o internal DBV was mounted on the left wall. A CPU board for an early S+ model is has the self test switch mounted on the CPU mounting frame. The self test switch can be seen in the prevoius posted pictures.

From what I know the S model ended production in 89/90. The S+ w/o an internal DBV started production at that same time. Early models of the S+ continued to used the same retangle buttons as the S model. Sometime between 90 and 93 the change over to the square buttons occured. This may due to the stock IGT had and decided to deplete their inventory prior to a complete change over to the square button. There are 92 machines that I know that has the square button. I have never seen a 93 model w/o an internal DBV leading me to believe that is a very close date to the change.

It sounds like my date range of 1989-1992 for the non-embedded S+ was very close then.  Thanks & K+. 

[daddy2yea]

Thanks for all the response. It appears that I have and S+.  Good catch on seeing the '92 on the ratchet mech. The date of manufacture on the side of the machine is so faded that I couldn't read it, but after reading the posts I decided to look again. So armed with the wifes reading glasses and finding the right angle I was able to make it out. It was made 08/1992 which make this machine extremely clean considering its age. Thanks again for all the posts.
Mike