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« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2009, 02:57:09 AM »

I have to respectfully disagree with you Thor777. At the end of the day, the players club card is a marketing tool, nothing more. In cases of disputed jackpots or jackpots not paid because the player was a minor, etc., they review the video. The person who initiated the spin is the person deemed to have made the wager and to whom the casino owes the money; it's not open for debate. In cases of minors who played and hit a jackpot (such as young adults of 18 to 21 years of age who might pass as being over 21) it's common for an adult to "step" in right after the hit and claim to have been the player. This tactic rarely works, if ever. The video has the final say. It doesn't matter who put the money into the machine or who's card is in the player tracking slot.

  I was just going by a jackpot that I hit in a similar situation... It was a Indian Casino and they showed up for the hand pay with MY info on the sheets for taxes to be taken out... apparently they got it from my players club card that was in the machine at the time...

I have to defer in the case of Indian casinos. They make own law and enforce it as they please. That's why players have no recourse when they simply refuse to pay a jackpot. It's settled by the tribal courts. The player can't sue through the U.S. justice system.
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« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2009, 06:06:55 AM »

David do you really think, if a minor put the money in the machine, but a adult pressed the spin button, that a casino would pay off on a win ??
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« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2009, 07:52:59 AM »

David do you really think, if a minor put the money in the machine, but a adult pressed the spin button, that a casino would pay off on a win ??

Short answer: In a Nevada casino, yes. Although they might try to weasel out of it. It would be an interesting court case. arrow bust gut laughing
I could see them claiming that the adult was contributing to the delinquency of a minor, committing a crime, et-cetera as excuses for not paying. stir the pot / get cooking
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« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2009, 12:49:23 PM »

Quote from Statfreak [The player can't sue through the U.S. justice system.]

Yes, and no... This is why>>
Certain states are not allowed to run casinos so they use the "goverment" tribal indians
as a storefront  to open casinos saying the indians are running them when
realistically it's actually the other way around...
That fully explains why the tribal indians are coming out with W2 forms with all your info on it.
Traditional indians don't have W2 forms, only the tribal indians...
after all, the tribal indians get paid by the state they reside in so with that in mind-
they must abide by the state taxation laws in order to operate the casino.
Can they be sued?...Sure they can! 
They are actually U.S. goverment employees!
Will it be easy? No.
Why?
Because they're U.S. government employees!

 
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« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2009, 09:04:32 PM »

At the end of the day, the players club card is a marketing tool, nothing more.

Agreed in terms of who gets the W2-G, etc.  However, whatever card that was in there is going to get "credit" for the win -- that will affect the win/loss statement at the end of the year from the casino as far as being able to write off losses at tax time.
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« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2009, 02:49:57 AM »

At the end of the day, the players club card is a marketing tool, nothing more.

Agreed in terms of who gets the W2-G, etc.  However, whatever card that was in there is going to get "credit" for the win -- that will affect the win/loss statement at the end of the year from the casino as far as being able to write off losses at tax time.

That's true. But if I found myself in a situation where the tracking information was wrong because of something like this and it were going to affect my tax liability, I would write a letter to or call host services or my personal host and see if the win/loss statement could be corrected.
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« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2010, 11:38:18 PM »

    We went back to the Casino the day after Christmas, we agreed this time to not sit together at the same machines and to keep what ever each of us won.  Well, lucky me, I hit $9,504.00 on Marti Hari playing $27.00 a crack.  She's Ok with it this time, I got the W2.... and the cash  Crazy



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« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2010, 12:31:06 AM »

And you bought dinner and drinks......
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