Con 1 installation

[stayouttadabunker]

Those numbers you posted means:
5.5Vdc
0.2Amps
I don't know what the "GC" is but I'm
suspecting it's the company that made them?
I wouldn't use a 2 volt battery at all...

[modman]

                                        That does sound right but interesting the memory is working well with 2 volts. I'll try to find a 5.5 v. battery but if not I'll try a 3.6v large capacity since the memory is doing fine with just the 2v.

[jay]

Modman,

That board you just posted is a Cham1 - (also known as a LED5).
You can easily pick out this board due to the dip switches and the bank of power transistors.
The meter that gets coupled with this receives all of its power from the LED 5 through the ribbon cable.
It is used with the CON1 to drive a display.

The ChamII+ (standalone) is what you have in your other Bally. The NON plus version of this ONLY works with a CON2.
The ChamII+ has two buttons on the board to change settings. The display for this beast requires a separate power feed from the power suppy.

[modman]

                                   

Modman,

That board you just posted is a Cham1 - (also known as a LED5).
You can easily pick out this board due to the dip switches and the bank of power transistors.
The meter that gets coupled with this receives all of its power from the LED 5 through the ribbon cable.
It is used with the CON1 to drive a display.

The ChamII+ (standalone) is what you have in your other Bally. The NON plus version of this ONLY works with a CON2.
The ChamII+ has two buttons on the board to change settings. The display for this beast requires a separate power feed from the power suppy.

                     I'll try to remember this better this time.  Now on the Cham II+ you mentioned two buttons? I don't see it on the board, I only see two prongs for a jumper pin. I would actually consider putting a large led display and putting the two machines together for the progressive. Now let me ask you this, lets say one machine is off and the other one if playing, will the progressive numbers match since one machine is off? or do both machines need to be on for it to register correctly?

[jay]

The progressive is the progressive and the machine is the machine.
When you play the machine - 2 contacts close and the progressive registers the input. It holds all the progressive info and if the machine is not on its just ignored.

In my at home config I have he CON1 inside machine 1. This drives a LED5 display for a in-machine progressive.
Wires are run out the back and feed machine 2 and 3 both of which also have a LED5 with a disaply in the machine.
Then the PE+ has the same except it is also hooked up to a gateway so I can have the value on the video screen.
Next I run externally to 2 other displays. The first is a 1 x 2 ..... one panel high by 2 wide ... this is a 3ft wide display.
Finally I am working on my 2 x 9 which is a double high/wide sign that is 12ft long.

Pictures to be posted soon. Currently it is layed out on my dining room table. I am waiting on another power harness before I can finish wiring it.
I am also building a case with a buddy and there just is not enough time in the weekend.

[brichter]

I'll try to remember this better this time.  Now on the Cham II+ you mentioned two buttons? I don't see it on the board, I only see two prongs for a jumper pin.

Post a picture of this board.

[modman]

I'll try to remember this better this time.  Now on the Cham II+ you mentioned two buttons? I don't see it on the board, I only see two prongs for a jumper pin.

Post a picture of this board.

              I did, it's on the 2nd page where I used a screwdriver to point at the battery. I don't see any buttons on it or I'm just blind?

[modman]

The progressive is the progressive and the machine is the machine.
When you play the machine - 2 contacts close and the progressive registers the input. It holds all the progressive info and if the machine is not on its just ignored.

In my at home config I have he CON1 inside machine 1. This drives a LED5 display for a in-machine progressive.
Wires are run out the back and feed machine 2 and 3 both of which also have a LED5 with a disaply in the machine.
Then the PE+ has the same except it is also hooked up to a gateway so I can have the value on the video screen.
Next I run externally to 2 other displays. The first is a 1 x 2 ..... one panel high by 2 wide ... this is a 3ft wide display.
Finally I am working on my 2 x 9 which is a double high/wide sign that is 12ft long.

Pictures to be posted soon. Currently it is layed out on my dining room table. I am waiting on another power harness before I can finish wiring it.
I am also building a case with a buddy and there just is not enough time in the weekend.

                    So basically if I have one machine off, the #'s will be off too on the off machine. Do you leave your machines on 24/7?  I would like to have a larger display built too but don't know exactly which model power supply I need and cham board to work with it.

[jay]

It might be standalone but thats a Cham1 not a II or II+

[modman]

It might be standalone but thats a Cham1 not a II or II+

              So then my other machine is using a cham 1 as well then because they are both standalone boards identical. Both do not have the buttons you mentioned about. Do you have a picture of what a cham II or II+ look like?

[stayouttadabunker]

Would I be correct in saying that your CHAM 1 has a set of dipswitches?

[jay]

There were two models of Cham1 made. One is standalone the other is link. What does the label on the chip say ?
They would probably be very close.

[modman]

Would I be correct in saying that your CHAM 1 has a set of dipswitches?

       No dip switches on the standalone

[stayouttadabunker]

You're right! There's NOTHING on that puppy.
It's probably only configurable through the PSP program.

[modman]

You're right! There's NOTHING on that puppy.
It's probably only configurable through the PSP program.

         The one with the dipswitches need the Con 1 box to work (page 3 picture), the one without the dipswitches that I have are standalones (Page 2 picture). Now I'm confused between these two boards on which should be a Cham 1 and a Cham II+ . All I know for now is that the one that does not say standalone and with dipswitches need a Con 1 box. As of now I'm trying to hit the jackpot on either of the machines to see if the word "winner" will show on the led screen as now I removed one of the relays on slot 1 of machine one and installed it on machine #2 on relay slot #4.  I just don't know if that relay was critical for something. Maybe I'll be the first to find out?

[stayouttadabunker]

Like Jay said before, if you short those two incrementing wires for longer than...
say... 3 or 4 seconds, it sends a "Jackpot" signal instead of a credit - to the display..

[jay]

You have a Cham1 standalone. Those are rare. You don't have a ChamII+

[brichter]

Post a picture of this board.

              I did, it's on the 2nd page where I used a screwdriver to point at the battery. I don't see any buttons on it or I'm just blind?

Do you have a picture of what a cham II or II+ look like?

Now we know what's up. Here's the picture of a CHAMII+ (made me pull my top glass twice in 2 days...  )

[stayouttadabunker]

I have a couple I fool around with... 

[modman]

                                       Those pictures definitely helped out a lot! OK now I know what some of these boards are. Just now I need to know if some of these have some advantages over the other. Now I know about the 3-4 seconds hold for the jackpot, just not sure if that long pulse is from the Relay on slot#1 or is still from the same relay that pulses for small increments on the jackpot on relay slot #4 inside the slot machine. Currently on both machines there is only one relay on relay slot #4. Originally on machine #1 there were two relays (slot #1 & slot #2) I removed the relay from slot#1 to put into machine #2 in slot #4 and the progressive still worked on machine #1, just now I don't know since the relay was removed, what is not going to work.

[KirkLasVegas]

Rescued from a TRASH CAN today..... (Seriously) I asked if I could take it....sure kid! help yourself!

So this is a Cham-II? I have not had a chance to play with progressive displays.....yet....


Kirk

[a69mopar]

Rescued from a TRASH CAN today..... (Seriously) I asked if I could take it....sure kid! help yourself!

So this is a Cham-II? I have not had a chance to play with progressive displays.....yet....


Kirk

Damn, it must be great to be in Vegas, The best part is that it has the wires with it.  Good find.  Progressives are easy and add character to slots.

Thanks for posting K+,
Wayne.

[stayouttadabunker]

It's in a black metal box too? Jeesh!
I'm MOVING TO VEGAS MAN....!!!!
Hey kirk! You find any more "trash" - let us in on it? LOL
Did you fire it up yet?

[a69mopar]

Hey Bunker, if you're ever up here, I have some extra black metal boxes.  I hate having them in the top box.  I remove the boards from the black boxes and mount them on the power supplies, this way I don't have to remove the light fixture or starter to change the programming.

W

[stayouttadabunker]

It DOES look like a tight fit in there doesn't it?
I was just remarking at all the neat stuff they pull fresh outta dumpsters.
Hang on to one of those gangboxes for me...
I might send a friend over on the Ontario side to to pick one up to bring home to papa!
On a different note:
I've always wanted to be a beach bum surfer...nice weather, cute girls, great tan,etc, etc...
now I think I have inclinations to be a "Master Dumpster Diver"!   
Is there any possible way to just knock on casino doors and ask them if they're throwing out anything today?
I mean, who the heck would you talk to?
I'm sure I wouldn't be looking to see if I can ask Steve Wynn if
he had any old 2009 Transmissive Reel machines he was throwing out?