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« on: December 14, 2009, 02:39:13 AM »

I am new to slot machines and to this forum and forgive me if I missed something or if this is a dumb question. I just picked up a CDS Proview III V3.0 Progressive meter and mounted and hooked up what it came with which was a accelerator board (I have seen others on here with this same board), power supply, Led display (of course), and a data cable from board  to display. Everything powers on and the meter will read $0.00 and then will say link down call attendant. I have searched and searched and maybe have found a few answers. I think need a CDS Prolink controller right? My real question is where do you hook up this meter to the actual machine itself? I assume you would have to hook it up somewhere to actually get readings Right? No body ever says where it hooks up in the machine. (At least not in simple terms that I understand. All I want it to do progress when money is inserted.  It doesn't even have to be a real jackpot. Any help would be great.
One other question, I know not all the chips on the board need to be replaced but what chips (eproms) need to be changed when switching out games?
Anywhere I can get a CDS Prolink?
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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2009, 03:16:46 PM »

I made a wiring schematic for a 4-machine harness for your CDS Prolink Progressive Controller.
This will work for an S+ Motherboard J12 4-pin connector where Pin #1
on the motherboard is the furthest right-most pin....
I'm not sure how it will work for an S2000 because I believe the S2000 has a different connector?>>>



Pin-Out Wiring Schematic for CDS ProLink Progressive Controller to Four Machine Harness.

37-Pin Game I/O port on ProLink        1st machine         2nd machine        3rd machine       4th machine
                                                        4-pin plug            4-pin plug             4-pin plug          4-pin plug


Pin#1  =Brown wire w/Red stripe.        Pin4 Terminated   none                    none                 none
Pin#2  =Red wire w/Gray stripe.          cont.                   Pin4 Terminated    none                 none
Pin#3  =Gray wire w/Red stripe.          cont.                   cont.                    Pin4 Terminated none
Pin#4  =Black wire w/Blue stripe.        cont.                   cont.                    cont.                 Pin4 Terminated
Pin#37=Red wire w/Orange stripe.       Pin3 cont.           Pin3 cont.             Pin3 cont.         Pin3 Terminated
 

9-Pin Game Serial port on ProLink

Pin#6=Orange wire w/Red stripe          Pin1 cont.           Pin1 cont.            Pin1 cont.         Pin1 Terminated 
Pin#7=Red wire                                  Pin2 cont.           Pin2 cont.            Pin2 cont.         Pin2 Terminated
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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2009, 04:01:46 PM »

I was wondering where on this backplane board does the harness
for the progressive controller go to and which pins are what?
I'm thinking perhaps on header location J15?


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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2009, 09:17:08 PM »

Third one on  the bottom left. It is the first black connection. It is marked progressive and I have the pig tail that connects to it.
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« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2009, 10:42:49 PM »

Thanks T.
How many wires are on that pigtail?
Is it fully populated?
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« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2009, 10:50:38 PM »

No it is not. I have read that mainly there is one ground, one data, and one coin-in. That would go along with what the pig tail is as it is only three wires. one is orange with red stripe, one is red with gray stripe, and one is red with orange stripe. That is all I have so far.
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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2009, 12:48:47 AM »

It looks like my ProLink harness uses the Pin #4 as the addressable pin and
that it is capable of being connected to 36 machines total.
That 37th pin probably acts as the ground wire?
That 4th pin on the harness used a different wire for each machine,
while the other 3 pins used a continuous wire
which ran from the ProLink to every machine.

It's a guess at the moment which one of the continuous 3 wires
is needed to receive a credit signal from the J15 connector.
One fact is that the 2 wires coming out of the 9-pin Game Serial port of the ProLink is going to each machine.
As well is the pin #37 wire too.
I think those 3 wires are what is needed to get credit signals from an S2000 to the ProLink.
And my guess is that the pin #37 (Red wire w/Orange stripe) is the ground wire.
I'm not sure what to use yet for the data and coin-in at this moment.
Maybe the two wires on the 9-pin Game Serial Port harness carry the data and coin-in signals?
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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2009, 01:02:48 AM »

That is about where I am at. Although a lot closer than I was at the other day. A lot of testing must be the only way to figure out exactly what wires need to be where. If needed I can tell you which of the 3 colored wires  is on which pin at the Mobo if needed or if it would help any.... I have a bunch of electrical drawings of the machines boards I will check through them for any helpful info and post what i find.
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« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2009, 01:28:22 AM »

That sounds good...
We are making progress and I'm sure we' will figure it out!
I just can't tinker with my S2000 at the moment...
so, you'll figure it out before me!
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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2009, 04:33:20 AM »

Take a look at this attachment. On page three the very first picture is what the pig tail harness looks like but instead of the red and blue wire it is orange and red.
Tommy

* CDS_PROGRESSIVE_SIGN[1].pdf (613.72 KB - downloaded 317 times.)
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« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2009, 12:56:52 PM »

I am moving what has been a lot of PM'ing between me and Morspeed to the
open forum so others may benefit from our recent discussions on the CDS  Prolink.
I was part of that thread last year...that's when I first got it running and hooked it up to an S+.
I wish I would have kept that video because it showed how I hooked it up to a single machine.
The lower photo I will retain and place it on a CDS post in a few minutes.
This photo below is priceless in how the 3 wires come out of the
back of the Prolink to hook up a single machine.

There are 2 wires coming out of the Game I/O 37-pin...and yes , one is the ground wire like
in our PM'd discussions.
It also looks like you only need the one wire from 9-pin Game Serial port...
take a good look at the photo I've attached to this post from last year's thread.
Those 3 wires will be the key to your harness going into the S2000 J15 header!
Also, I believe the 2nd picture of the Black 6-pin AMP Game King plug will be a good clue as to
how it connects to the 6-pin J15 header on your S2000!


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* Game King 6 pin plug for S2000.jpg (7.37 KB, 391x223 - viewed 426 times.)
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« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2009, 01:25:12 PM »

I happen to have some of those Molex 6-pin receptor plugs
 in my inventory of parts that I use to make different kinds of harnesses.
It's nice to order a few so you are able to make your own.
If you want some, I've attached a picture of the bag I have.
The phone number/ part numbers are all on the bag!
Llick on photo to enlarge it!>>>


* 6 pin single row Molex SL connectors.jpg (36.22 KB, 1024x768 - viewed 464 times.)
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« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2009, 04:08:18 AM »

What do you think???? Here is the schematic of the motherboard connection.


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« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2009, 01:11:27 PM »

If you drew that schematic up - you're way ahead of me on the knowledge
of the circuitry and components needed to make it work!
My question is: if you know that much about components,
why the heck haven't you got it working???
I wish I had your knowledge of each component does
because I have no clue why there's so many resistors in that drawing???
All I'd do is plug connectors straight in there and switch wires around and see if it works...LOL
If I see or smell smoke, then I know it's not plugged in right...

This drawing you've made...is it from the ProLink board to the 6-pin J15 header on the S2000?
Are you trying to determine what is coming out of the 6 pins?
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« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2009, 05:28:26 PM »

Ha! Ha! I wish I knew that much! It would already be working! No this is from the motherboard schematic in the manual that I snipped out that part to concentrate on the problem at hand. I am trying to figure out from that drawing which wires are which.
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« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2009, 06:12:58 PM »

well,
I know some guys have like a cham2+ or supremes hooked up to
their S2000's so I think if we get some input from them on how they hook up their S2000's -
You'll be in the ballpark as to how the ProLink connects to the J15 plug.
I'm sure they will have pretty similar wiring plug configurations.
According to your snipped drawing -
I'd be focusing on pins 1, 2, and 4 ?
I found an interesting picture Of the J15 hooked up to the progressive box on the back of an S2000,
but I'm sure if it will help you figure which wire goes where.
I happen to have that same box in the back of my S2000 too.
I know it's not hooked up though
There's a lotta of interesting stuff in this topic as well
http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=762.60>>>


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« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2009, 10:21:00 PM »

Uh.... I'm not sure what you mean by that picture because it is not hooked up...... That is the EZ pay box. I think that goes with TITO Right?
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« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2009, 11:25:56 PM »

Yes, but the bottom plug (J85) I think goes into the ProLink... Wink
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« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2009, 01:05:48 AM »

judging by what others are saying the j85 is not used it is the j15 that is used. they talk about that in the same post that the picture came from. So we are basically back to square one. What is this about a spectrum display? Runs directly in the S2000 with no control box?
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« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2009, 01:15:04 AM »

Yes, I've read that thread...seems like the easiest route really for an S2000.
Idesign's set-up is about one of the best out there at the moment!
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« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2009, 02:51:30 AM »

Anything click in your head where the prolink might hook up on this board?


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« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2009, 12:20:39 PM »

Did you look at page 5 in the manual?
There's a pretty good picture that might help you?
I don't have the accelerator board...I really don't know what that thing is actually.
I just have the ProLink and a CDS ProSolo board.
I sent you some ProLink reading material to your email address! Mail
I, however, got it back...ARGHHH!!
The postmaster said that address was no good.
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« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2010, 02:38:05 AM »

I'm not sure which manual you are referring to but I don't have it.
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« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2010, 03:40:55 AM »

I'm not sure which manual you are referring to but I don't have it.
Tommy

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« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2010, 03:50:24 AM »

I've sent him the bloody thing about 6 times now...ARGHHH!
Is it okay to have a period in you email address between your first and last name?

I'm tempted to upload it in the "Submit A New File" section of NLG!!! bust gut laughing
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