THE RANDON NUMBER GENERATOR

[Thor777]

Ram clears only help if you do them on the second Friday of the month and after midnight while only using one coin bets all day 

WRONG !!! ... I have also found them to work on any given Saturday night as long as there is indeed a full moon ! 

[golflover]

Ram clears only help if you do them on the second Friday of the month and after midnight while only using one coin bets all day 

No RAM Clear only helps when you start looking at the statistical data on a particular machine. You know the machine has been in use on the floor for two years and it has a 87.35% chip installed. The current data show the machine is paying at 68%

Now is the time to do a RAM clear before it hits to bring it up to the listed 87.35% over the 3 Mil handle pulls.

Being new I have to ask. Does the ram clear actually impact the RNG and/or the payback in that way.  Would casinos periodcally do ram clears thru out the casino to keep the machines at the listed payback? It seems when I go to the casino the new machines they have just installed pay out some and keep you playing on 20 bucks for a long time. After a month or so and people being creatures of habit return to the same machine they don;t seem to be paying as well. I have had to do a few ram clears on my Proslot and I am not sure it impacts the machine, it just never seems to hit the 3 big payouts. Only one was hit by my nephew 4 years ago.

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[golflover]

Thanks Rocket.. I always wondered if the casinos around here changed the odds during tourist season and then changed again at  the end of tourist season. But I  do notice that they do swap out machines alot. Seems every month there  are different machines.

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I will post the new info i found on friday or saturday night early evening -- should be a good time to get the crowd
>>>tuned up!<<<>>>cranked up<<< !!
for some good cross talk on the RNG TOPIC AGAIN

honest answer is it will take me until then to find all the info again that I dug up while i was away ..
most likely  will be same   night as the 250 cats in a lades home documentary on animal HORDING !!

LMAO!! That documentary was about a lady that I know of personally! Some weird shi* let me tell you! It was even on all of the major networks. Small world ROCKET! Small world!!

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well to stay off the topic of RNG  the lady with the 250 cats you know her !!

sorry have to say it lol in your neck of the woods 5 ACES!! -- no pun intended !!

i can really believe the lady now !!man the thought of the stink is returning again .. 
 

dont worry 5-ACES YOUR SECRET OF WHERE YOU LIVE AND WHAT THEY DO IS SAFE WITH ME !!!!


also reminds me to get that info together for the next post on RNG
 but i have been away atleast twice a week for a month getting repaired -with no good news !!

so post us a picture of you and the 250 cats lol

LMAO!! You got me laughing so hard I can't quit Rocket! Yes, it definitely makes one want to keep others from knowing where your from and what kind of people live around here! LOL! We have two cat's and it's hard enough to look after them, so could you imagine having 250 cat's, 130 dog's, something like 15 horses, 200 chickens and 50 birds! I'm serious and that lady still insists she did nothing wrong. I won't even get into what the house looked like and how many carcasses the other critters were eating off of. I thought I had seen some bad stuff, but this one took the jackpot! Now find that info on the RNG! (Figured that I had better put that in here so I don't get chewed out for thread hijacking!) 

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hey we drift on threads all the time 

I just cannot imagine the odor ---I retract that >>> the sad part about it I can imagine the odor growing up on a farm ..
but it still would never smell like 1 male cat that sprayed !!

the disease that runs rampant in the air from dead animals would be scary to to person who went there on there first day on the job !!
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to go back on the random number generator

I will say this -i can give detailed info of the >>>route or path <<<
that the calculations of percentage of payback take while machine is powered on
PLUS THE >>>> RAM CLEAR<<<< DONE ONCE OR DONE OFTEN -WILL HAVE  A DEFINATE INTERUPTION IN THE GAME KEEPING ITS PAYBACK PERCENTAGE ACCURATE .

THE RAM CLEAR WILL PRODUCE MORE FREQUENT WINS FOR A SHORT TIME !!

IGT 
S+ EXAMPLE

MAIN BOARD --has microproccesor


MOTHER BOARD

REEL CHIP --a % percentage that the game should follow


I CANT GET INTO IT ANY MORE RIGHT NOW ON THIS CRAPPY LAP TOP I AM ON ..
ITS FOOD FOR THOUGHT .

Well for what's it worth. I did my first RAM clear on my last kit install, S+. We hit the jackpot within the first three days after doing that. Now I know the game, Haywire, isn't all that hard to hit but it made me wonder if the RAM clear had anything to do with hitting the top prize. Maybe, maybe not but it was super cool nonetheless!

[knagl]

It seems when I go to the casino the new machines they have just installed pay out some and keep you playing on 20 bucks for a long time. After a month or so and people being creatures of habit return to the same machine they don;t seem to be paying as well.

I've seen that a lot, too.  I'm a firm believer that when many casinos put in new games, they often have them set to a "looser" payback percentage to get people hooked on the game, and then later (a couple of weeks to a month) change the chips out for "tighter" payback percentage chips.  I know for a fact that one one bank of "new" machines at the local Native American casino, when the machines were new they were hitting left and right, and then later there was a software change made and the machines weren't nearly as generous. 

The way I could tell there was a software change made was that the upper video screen of the machine originally said, "must be 21 to play" in the fine print.  Where I live, the minimum age to gamble in the casino is 18.  A few weeks later, I observed that the message had changed to "must be 18 to play", and at the same time the frequent hits and bonus frequency changed (for the worse).  A software change had been made, and I believe that it was made to lower the payback after the machine had gotten people 'hooked' on it.

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[knagl]

if the slots you played had high % chips lets say 95%--98%  those machines in all honesty hit many small wins ... but no big jackpots of 10--grand ---25-grand etc

Generally speaking, the difference between a low percentage chip and a high percentage chip is the number of small to medium wins.  The higher percentage payback chip will have more small and medium wins.  The lower percentage payback chip will have fewer small and medium wins.  The odds of hitting the big jackpots are typically the same whether it's a high payback chip or a low payback chip.


In the case I'm talking about, which I mentioned is at the local Native American casino, there is one bank of Spielo machines that was put in and had the software with the "must be 21" in the fine print.  At the same time a few weeks later when that fine print changed to "must be 18", the frequency of wins/feature bonuses was noticeably decreased.  When they first put them in, you couldn't lose -- everyone playing was hitting bonuses left and right.  I'm not talking about the frequency of jackpots, but the frequency of the smaller hits and feature bonuses.  Also in my case, it's the only bank of Spielo machines at the casino -- they didn't move them around and put in Spielo machines from a different part of the casino.

As far as all the red tape of changing software/chips, the local Native American casino oversees itself.  They have their own gaming commission, and they don't have to report to the state or anyone else.  For what it's worth, I have learned that in Las Vegas the casinos do NOT need to get the gaming commission involved if they wish to change the payback percentage chip in a machine -- they're just required to use approved chips, but they do not have to get the chips taped into place or have someone from gaming there to change them out.  I understand that it's labor intensive and they're not changing them every Friday to "tighten them for the weekend", but the reality is that they are free to change the payback chips whenever they see fit.  ...including a month after putting a machine on the floor.

[Neonkiss]

Not only that, but the casino could have loads of MPU's with the approved chips installed and already taped.
They just change the tray and board assembly with another for a higher or lower percentage.
The tray's I get from casino are marker with a machine number on them.

[a69mopar]

The boards themselves are taped with the security tape so changing the board would require a gaming comission compliance officer(think they're called that) to be present and sign off just like the chips.

W

[Neonkiss]

The boards themselves are taped with the security tape so changing the board would require a gaming comission compliance officer(think they're called that) to be present and sign off just like the chips.

W

Your correct,
But all my trays have tamper proof tape that is different than the ones on the chips. I believe gaming commission has theirs on the chips and the casino has their tape on the trays

Maybe someone that works at a casino can advise. I don't see them taking down a machine and having to wait for the inspector when they have a bad MPU.

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[stayouttadabunker]

who's rules does the on ship casino adhere to ?

My guess would be which state and commission they got their license from?
I'd imagine they have to pay taxes and percentages and report to the state they port at?
Surely there must be independent state gaming officials onboard in order to run a cruise casino?
Too many questions really - I've never really looked into this.

[a69mopar]

the one I was on only opened the casino after we were out to sea. International waters?

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[Foster]

Most Ships are not registered as US ships.
They are registered where it can save them the most money and fewer regulations.
They still have to pass US Coast Guard inspections and other inspections as they come due.
They do not apply for or acquire state gaming license so the casino stays closed while in port and US waters, and opens after entering International Waters.
I would suspect they close for each port to keep any country from trying to get a piece of casino's take.
 

[Slot Docs]

Just a little note to Add to what is said about Nevada Casinos and changing the chips. In addition to using only approved chips the head technician usually or the Slot Director must have on file a PAR sheet for each and every game. When gaming comes to inspect, and they do very frequently the tech has to produce those sheets for each machine that the agent or agents want to inspect. It is permissible to have several machine #'s all listed on one PAR sheet as long as they all have the same program #.  Additionally every quarter the machines must meet the stated % values of the hold % stated on the par sheets or the machines must be inspected to find out why the machine is under or over PAR %. In a large casino this will keep techs busy for weeks at a time. The accounting department is always at odds with the techs, as when they see a par of 90% they think that the machine should always run at 90%, but those of us who know, realize that the stated Par % of a slot is stated as a LIFETIME #. this means that over the life of the machine (in most cases 5 years or a Million Handle pulls) it will average out to meet the stated PAR %. It is permissible to "Adjust the PAR %" when it can be documented that there is nothing wrong with the machine, yet it has consistently held either over or under the PAR % for the past 12 months. When these "Adjustments" are made they must be noted on the PAR sheet for the game in question and must be approved by the gaming commission verbally via telephone. As a former Casino Lead Tech in Nevada I know this to be fact, I also know that several other states these regs are very similar as many states modeled their regs after Nevada. I also know that All Indian Casinos are regulated by the National Indian Gaming Commission. Each tribe also has 1 or more gaming agents present. Also all Indian gaming chips must meet approved Kobetron specs for that chip. If it is not listed as approved they are not supposed to use it. In the approval list it gives a Kobetron signature, when the games are brought in for the first time they pull the chips out of the games and check the signature of the chips with a kobetron machine and if it don't match whats on the approval list then it either has to be submitted for approval or replaced with a version that's on the list already. for those who don't know a kobetron machine is like a chip burner, only instead of reading and writing in binary it reads and displays a hexadecimal signature, but will not program a chip. this hexadecimal signature is what is compared to the approval list.
 

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