DBV wont function s plus (Fixed)

[Gusco]

Ok here is the situation. Just got an igt s Plus (Made in 1994) The DBV will not take bills.

I did alot of reading trying to find an answer with no avail.
The game has never had a theme change that I am aware of so it shouldnt need to be set with a chip correct?
The DBV on power up cycles thru its initialising test and then the red lights inside stay lit.
Tried every denomination bill. but only new bils so could be an update thing maybe?

Im just trying to get some input on some common reasons as to why it would function and start from there.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

[rickhunter]

Do you know if the DBV as installed ever worked on the machine?  If it doesn't work with $1.00 bills, then it's not an update issue.  Here are a few things we need to know.

1.  What make and model is your DBV?
2.  Does the yellow bezel light up to signify the slot is ready to take bills?
3.  Is the DBV enabled in the options settings?  (we need to know what SP game prom you have in order for us to tell you how to check if you dbv is enabled).

[Gusco]

Well the guy i purchased it from said he never had it working. But never tried to get it working either.

The sticker on the DBV says $5 & $10 (The outer display sticker says $1 thru $100)
it says Japan Cash Machine DBV-145-SG
Ill also note that i did make sure the Optical sensor was functioning in the cash box and the DBV seems to be very clean inside and out.
As far as the Gam prom. i dont actually know the number as the sticker is quite faded and cant be read. but it is "Casino Night" 3cm Type 0 if that helps at all.

[rickhunter]

Read this part of the FAQ and report back to us your findings.

http://www.newlifegames.net/spset/SPSS.htm

[rickhunter]

Also to find out if the DBV is enabled in the options, on 90% of the game proms, this is the procedure.

Open the door, and press the white test button twice.

You should get a "0" on the coins played window, and "2" on the Winner Paid window, and a 0, 1 or 2 on the credit window depending on which option is set.  Then turn the jackpot reset key enough times so that you get a "9" in the Winner paid window.  This is the option that tells you if you dbv is enabled.  If the Credit window shows a 1, then it's enabled, if it shows a 0, then it's disabled.  The only way to enable it is to get a set chip.

Also the DBV145 is a one way acceptor.  It is now an obsolete part and JCM hasn't made updates to it since the colored 20's.  The only way the acceptor takes bills, is face up with the Federal reserve logo in first (the black one).  That is the bill's written denomination should be on your left as you insert the bill.

[dpalmi]

Hello!

Does the bezel above where you insert bills light up (to the left of the red arrow in the pic below)?  What happens when you try to insert a bill - does the DBV try to pull it in?

Dan #2

[Gusco]

Ok, thanks for that tip.

The number i got was 4361 (guessing this to be the game porg)
and 0932 (Last 4 digits of reel prom?)

So would translate to
SP4361
SS0932

[rickhunter]

It's the other way around.  You have an SP932 and an SS4361.

Have a look at your game odds in the table here:

http://www.newlifegames.net/igtbible/IGT%203CM/Game%20Library%20-%20S-Plus%20-%20Casino%20Night%20%283%20Coin%20Multiplier%29.htm

[Gusco]

I havent seen the Bezel light up. Just the two red lights just inside of the DBV
It does not try to accept a bill at all. the only activity it gives me is on power up and cycles thru up and down twice i belive.
Yeah i was looking at the odds table.
Im going to check and see if it is indeed enabled.

[rickhunter]

Looking over your SP game chip, the first option when you press the reset button twice is going to be 5 on the Winner paid window.  Your SP does not have the 2 option, it is controlled by dip switches (reel Spin sound)

[Gusco]

Yeah i checked and didnt see the 2.
Ok, So where does that leave me? I am familiar with the dip switches. i did manage to change the sound  (Either reels and stop or just stop)
and the game speed. Are you saying the option to enable the DBV is in the dip switches?

[rickhunter]

No, the option to see if it's enabled is done through the white reset button.

Hit the white reset button once and you should see the Coins Played window go blank.  Hit it again, and you should see it go to 0.  Then you will probably see a "5" in the Winner Paid window, and some other digit in the Credits window (0, 1 or 2 depending on your setting), then turn the Jackpot reset key and the Winnder Paid window will switch to a "6" (this is the mechanical jackpot bell setting), turn the jackpot reset key again and the Winner Paid window will switch to an 7 (Drop Door switch), turn the jackpot reset key again and the Winner paid window will show an "8" (this changes the DBV mode from bill to coins, bill to credits, or follow the player cash/credit button, Dip swtich 4 must be "off" for this setting to be useful),  turn the Jackpot reset key again and you will see a "9" and on the Credits window, you will see either 1 (DBV is enabled) or 0 (DBV is disabled).  If you get a 0, you will need a set chip in order to enable the DBV, this is the only way of doing it.

[Gusco]

When i pressed the reset button twice i got 0 in the coin played window
and 000 in the winner window with the third 0 flashing.

now i went further and a couple more clicks on the reset took me to a winner window displaying a 5 and a 0 like this 5--0. so i turned the jackpot key and took it to 9--1    the previous number 8 said 8--2.

[Gusco]

Im gonna have to get a set chip either way i guess. I plan on changing the game theme every now and again. So i guess i might as well get an updated DBV as well. WOUld eb nice to get this one working though. Even if it only takes old bills i could keep some handy just for credits.

[rickhunter]

If you have a 9-1 it means your DBV is enabled.  Not having the bezel light up means something is not communicating right.

Do you have a cash can installed?  When you pull it out and push it back in, does the DBV re-cycle?  If it does not, sometimes the sensor on the back of the DBV transport is dirty or mis-aligned and does not register that the cash can is not there.

If you remove the head from the DBV transport you should see an eprom chip with some numbers and software version, can you tells us what it says, or post a picture of it so we can determine if you have the right software on it?

[Gusco]

Yes removing and replacing the cash can does make it cycle. Ill go get the numbers from the chip

[Gusco]

I took it off and there was a sticker above a slot with dipswitches that said

DBV-145-SH
ID-044
V2.21

[Gusco]

Well hey Rickhunter, Im off to bed. I really appreciate all the help thus far.
This is an excellent site. I have learned so much from reading back posts.
Ill check back in the forum in the morning sometime.
Again thanks so much for your input on this problem.

[fanninislots]

Gusco,

I think you have the wrong DBV. You need a DBV SS 022/023. The BV you have is for a Bally machine not an IGT.

Ben

[mkd3b]

Not good I just picked up a dbv200SH for my Igt S+   I guess I got the wrong item as well  Please let me Know  Thanks Art

[rickhunter]

What Ben ^^^^^ (Fanninislots) said.  You can either:

1.  Replace the eprom chip with the correct one.  You need IDO 023 for your SP game type.  Latest version is 3.40.11 which accepts up to the new colored 50's (cheapest alternative to just get the thing going)
2.  Buy a DBV200 head with the right software (this allows for 4 way acceptance as well as colored bills excluding the new $5.00).  You will also need to buy the newer power supply.  Look at the dbv power supply which is mounted right next to it on the slot.  If the power supply has ventilation slots, you are good to go, otherwise you need to buy a newer one that has more amperage.

[Gusco]

One odd thing is that on the top of the head i says DBV-145-SG
and on the bottom side it says                             DBV-145-SH
Makes me wonder which one it really is.

[rickhunter]

Hmm you have a sticker that also says $5 and $10 IDO23, which would be the correct software.  You'll probably need to take a look at the actual eprom chip inside to see if there's further labeling on it.

Don't worry about the SG vs SS.   I remember reading somewhere that the SG moniker refers to the product only containing head and transport (purchased as spares) and the SS includes the head, transport and the Vertical down stacker assembly.  The heads should be the same.

[rickhunter]

Not good I just picked up a dbv200SH for my Igt S+   I guess I got the wrong item as well  Please let me Know  Thanks Art

When Ben refers to the DBV 22/23 he means the software inside of it.  What dbv did you have on your slot before?  If you bought the entire thing, the DBV200SH is a horizontal stacker, uprights use a vertical stacker DBV200SS, so if you just bought the head, you should be ok, if you are going to replace head+transport, you'll need a vertical stacker transport.

[Gusco]

The DBV in question came with the Slot machine. decided to just get a replacement DBV. Too bad i didnt get the slot years ago. As i used to refurbish Pepsi machines and always had a couple dozen mars validators handy i mave been able to use.