want to back up my vision software

[stayouttadabunker]

Well, that worked!
It showed that it had used up 37.1Mb on a FAT 64Mb "F" drive.
Now, that was the OEM card.

[stayouttadabunker]

Now, Here is the copied card on a 48Mb PCMCIA card.
It's also formatted as a FAT drive...>>>


Looks like the copied card is 1/2 an Mb larger at 37.6 Mb...hmm?

[stayouttadabunker]

I decided to pick some of these CF cards up on bayE...
I think I bought them off of Yakov Smirnov.... >>>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/5GK8ewRec7c&rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/5GK8ewRec7c&rel=0</a>

[Foster]

Stout
You need to see what the cluster/sector size is of the OEM card
Then use Disk Management to partition the new card with same cluster size.
Disk Management can be accessed by right clicking the computer icon in start and selecting manage.

[stayouttadabunker]

How does one actually view and see what the cluster/sector size is of the OEM card in my "F" drive?  
Click on snapshot of my screen to enlarge...>>>

[stayouttadabunker]

By the way,
I didn't hit the "Defrag" button - I only "analyzed" the "F" drive where the OEM card was in...

[Foster]

well I can see the current cluster size for F is 1K.
you have to compare it to the OEM card and see if you need to change it on the backup card.

[stayouttadabunker]

okay, here's the 2 cards.
The analysis of the OEM card ( called "STI"..I don't know why - I didn't name it that...lol)
on top and the analysis of the copied 48 Mb I made...
How do I change the cluster%$#@ size of the copied card?
Do I re-format the 48Mb card and set the cluster perimeters of it?
What about the "volume"?
Does that need to be changed by partitioning the "volume" of the card?

Click on snapshots to enlarge >>>

[bkoch]

Bunker,

The Best way to find what format you are working with is to stick the original disk in the drive and and read the properties of that drive. then format the new drive the same way. I am not sure but I believe fat is the right format for that game. I have copied these files buy using the drag and drop into a file folder marked with the game name.

There is usually only two files that are needed from the flash card. RFA 25 and the BGM 143The rest of the files on the flash disk are created the first time the game starts.

sorry it took so long to get back.

let me know if this helps

Blake

[stayouttadabunker]

Bunker,

The Best way to find what format you are working with is to stick the original disk in the drive and and read the properties of that drive. then format the new drive the same way. I am not sure but I believe fat is the right format for that game. I have copied these files buy using the drag and drop into a file folder marked with the game name.

There is usually only two files that are needed from the flash card. RFA 25 and the BGM 143The rest of the files on the flash disk are created the first time the game starts.

sorry it took so long to get back.

let me know if this helps

Blake

That's okay Blake.
It's a learning process really trying to figure out how to do this.

The properties of the OEM card shows it's formatted in "FAT" (needs a diet...lol)
It's the same for my blank PCMCIA card.
However, Foster said the "cluster" size should be the same?
I don't have the RFA 25 - only the RFA 65.
Could that be the reason why I get the "red screen of death"?

I can't really drag and drop.
What I've been doing is "Copy This File To Another Folder" method.
So I click on the OEM folders and copy them to the blank "F"folder where the card is located.

[bkoch]

bunker,

let me get some details of the game you are working on

Is this a three or five reel can you send us a image of the files on the original flash disk.

thanks

Blake

[stayouttadabunker]

bunker,
let me get some details of the game you are working on
Is this a three or five reel can you send us a image of the files on the original flash disk.
thanks
Blake

Yes. This particular game is a
Ms.Little Green Men 3Reel 5Line 5Coin game with the following stuff:
SB000421
SG00380 GME 1&2
VS011GX1

I'm emailing you my stuff I have on the card at the moment.
The red screen of death is gone and it uploaded all the data and
files including...huh?...  keyboard & mouse files...lol
Now the LCD is asking me to enter the time in DOS form??? lol
That's gonna be hard to do unless I get a keyboard attached to this puppy...
Here's a couple of pics in a few minutes.
I pasted a comparison of the folder on my computer and the stuff on the blank PCMCIA card. >>>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/hSpm3upe0vw&rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/hSpm3upe0vw&rel=0</a>

[brichter]

Bunker, you can change the cluster size when you format the drive.

Using the Disk Management utility (right click My Computer, select Manage, as provided by Foster), you can change the cluster size (Windows calls it the Allocation Unit size in Disk Management tool, they were too stupid to use the same terminology in both places). There are limitations to the size you can use depending on the capacity of the disk.

[stayouttadabunker]

I don't think it gives me any options in the dialog box to go lower than 16K...
Does "16K" mean 16 "kilobytes"?
The cluster I posted up earlier is only 1K...

This is NOT going to work isn't it?
I didn't re-format it...I left it as is.
I'm thinking my red screens of death are related more to possible missing files
in the BGM00143 folders or the the RFA10025 folders on the 48Mb blank PCMCIA copy card.
I wish I would have taken a picture of the last RSOD ("Red Screen Of Death" from now on...lol)
I'll try and re-enact the screen.  

Also,
The SG000380's combined with the SB000441 need the ATA10065 which I have -
according to the SG000380 PSR sheet.
But something's not right because the RSOD pops up and makes me want to  

[brichter]

1k is 1024...

[stayouttadabunker]

1k is 1024...

1,024 bytes I'm assuming... Brichter!



This means I cannot go lower than 16,384 bytes for my cluster size then...                                                              

[brichter]

1k is 1024...

1,024 bytes I'm assuming... Brichter!



This means I cannot go lower than 16,384 bytes for my cluster size then...                                                              

I'm looking right at 1024 in the menu you posted. 2 below default, which is highlighted.

[stayouttadabunker]

You have good eyes....whaddya 22 years. old?     



"a formattin' here we go, formattin' here we go, hi-ho the cherry-oh, a formattin' here we go..."

[stayouttadabunker]

Holy crap batman! That worked?!
Now I gotta put all the crap back onto this card...
stayed tuned to the bat channel...
Click to enlarge though Brichter doesn't need to because he has "SuperVision"!     >>>

[stayouttadabunker]

I kept getting this error every now and then but I finally took a picture of it.
It was error Initializing BGM game...hmm...I wondered what this was about
So I go look at the BGM file in my blank PCMCIA card....and lo and behold...there it was!
I named the bloody file wrong!
I named it "BGM000163" when the SB chip is searching for a "BGM000143"!   

See next post and the results will be clear as day>>> lol

[stayouttadabunker]

So I fix the specific BGM file by renaming it correctly to BGM000143
and this pops up on my LCD screen! LOL >>>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/3FYMTHbRvVM&rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/3FYMTHbRvVM&rel=0</a>

[Ron (r273)]

I knew you would figure it out!

                         


Ron (r273)

[stayouttadabunker]

lol  thanks r273!
I'm working on trying to put a few BGM's and ATA's rolled into one PCMCIA card.
Apparently from what I figured out,  it appears that it's actually the SBxxxx chip on the s2000's MPU,
that ultimately decides what to tell the LCD computer what certain files to look for -
in order to load it up onto the screen.

If the files are embedded into the PCMCIA card correctly - then it's no problem
for the LCD computer to throw it up onto the screen.
However, if there's anything wrong ( for example: mis-named files, corrupted files, or similarly named files) -
you'll get the "Red Screen Of Death" !!!    

It also appears to me that size doesn't really matter.
As long as the PCMCIA card is not too big.
How big and what are the size limitations I don't know yet.
I know one thing though...I can't get a 4GB CF card to work on it though.
I even tried downsizing the flash card to a cluster size of 1,024 bytes...
I'll have to fool around with the formatting sizes some more.
Maybe I'll get lucky.

[Foster]

The reason you cant use 4GB cards is that they used Windows 98 embedded edition.
Microsoft requires embedded systems to start up the application directly, no windows explorer or the like allowed.

[CaptainHappy]

 
Like a kid in the candy store!!! Good Job Bunker!!

Need to work on the reel strippers though!   Sorry, Wrong theme....

CH