Second Amendment News and Views.

[brichter]

And that is the mentality of our government, and this is how they protect us from terrorism.

We have arrived at a sad, sad, state of affairs.

Oh wait, could this be considered a chat room? I think NLG is online...
OMG! I better run the black helicopters are flying overhead!


Thank you Jane Napolitano for letting us know that t his administration considers most of it's citizens to be militia members.

Here's another smilie we need:

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[rickh]

Last nite I was listening to a gal on the radio explain about Googles new facial recognition tool... that uses pictures online to identify most anyone.... Google is now debating whether to put it out there or not. Huge fears about this, pedifiles, stalkers, etc could use it.

Keep your ears open on this one.

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DMV Oregon already has a state law which requires the use of facial recognition devices on ID's.
There are a few websites using this technology to find out if your uploaded photographs match celebrities.

[Joeylc]

Mexico’s President Calls On Congress To Pass Assault Weapons Ban

 

    Washington (CNN) – Mexican President Felipe Calderon addressed two of America’s most contentious political issues during a speech to the U.S. Congress Thursday, asking for a return of the assault weapons ban and blasting Arizona’s controversial new immigration law as a “terribleâ€� endorsement of racial profiling. …

    Calderon pointed out that the challenge to Mexican security has “roots on both sides of the border.â€� He cited the high rates of consumption of illegal drugs in the United States, and praised the Obama administration for its recent initiative to lower demand.

    He also urged Congress to reimpose the assault weapons ban, asserting that violence in Mexico spiked after the ban was lifted in 2004. Mexican authorities in recent years have seized 45,000 weapons that could be traced to the United States, he said, and there are now roughly 7,000 gun shops along the U.S. border with Mexico where assault weapons can be easily acquired.

    Saying he respects the U.S. Constitution and understands “the purpose of the Second Amendment,â€� he added, “believe me – many of these guns are not going to honest American hands.â€�

    “Today these weapons are aimed by the criminals … at Mexican civilians and authorities,â€� he said. “With all due respect, if you do not regulate the sale of these weapons in the right way,â€� American authorities and civilians may be soon face a similar challenge.

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Calderon glibly suggests that it’s American guns being used in Mexican crimes, but again the statistic which Calderon and Obama use to substantiate this claim is false. What’s true is that 90% of the guns the ATF has tracked from Mexican crime scenes have originated in the United States. But it’s also true that the ATF only checks a small percentage of guns used in Mexican crime. Because a vast majority of the guns have markings indicating that they clearly didn’t come from the United States.

The truth is that something like 8% of the guns used in Mexican crimes originate from licensed gun dealers in the United States. Because it turns out that, shockingly enough, people intent on using guns to commit crimes usually aren’t to respectful of things like gun control laws.

And remember, Calderon’s argument is based on the idea that the mere presence of guns causes crime. Which is a notion that, while popular with gun control types, has no basis in reality. Calderon claims a spike a Mexican crime since America dropped the assault weapons ban in 2004. Yet, despite a huge increase in gun sales since 2004 (and especially since Obama and Democrats rose to power in 2006 and 2008) America has seen no corresponding increase in crime. In fact, the opposite has been true.

As gun sales have gone up, as the number of concealed carry permit holders has gone up, crime has gone down.

There are a lot of causes for crime in Mexico, no doubt. And some of those causes are American policies (I’m looking at you, drug warriors). But guns aren’t the problem with crime in Mexico.

[Buzz]

   We just got to get a new smiley with Odie standing on a soap box,   

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[rickh]

Here in Arizona, we get to carry concealed without a permit, in July... I think the 19th.....

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Yoy must be working really hard.   Luv the smiley's

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[rickh]

It always has.. it just sucks more now.

[jay]

Man on the moon in 1969 ---- hmm there are a lot of conspircy theories who says they didn't.
We have not put anyone that far into space in a long time.

The biggest challenge is the Van Allen belt - Outer space is awash with deadly radiation that emanates from solar flares firing out from the sun. Standard astronauts orbiting earth in near space, like those who recently fixed the Hubble telescope, are protected by the earth's Van Allen belt. But the Moon is to 240,000 miles distant, way outside this safe band. And, during the Apollo flights, astronomical data shows there were no less than 1,485 such flares.

Check this link out......    http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm

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80-Year-Old Chicago Man Kills Armed Home Invader     

An 80-year-old Chicago man shot and killed an armed man who broke into his two-story house in a pre-dawn home invasion Wednesday on the city's West Side.

At about 5:20 a.m., the homeowner and his wife, also in her 80s, discovered the intruder entering their home through a back door. The homeowner, who had a gun, confronted and killed the burglar on the doorstep, police said. Cops said the intruder also fired his gun during the struggle.

"It's a good thing they had a gun, or they might be dead," said Curtis Thompson, who lives next door to the couple, the Chicago Sun-Times reported.

Neighbors described the elderly couple, who both walk with canes, as pillars of the community in Garfield Park, where home invasions have been all too frequent.

Their neighbor, Shaquite Johnson, told MyFoxChicago that the two are "heroes" for fighting off the attacker — and that the shooting means there is "one less criminal" walking the streets.
"They don't bother no one, so why would anyone do that to them?" she said.

Relatives of the couple told the Sun Times that the man is an Army veteran, his wife a former nurse. Police said neither the man nor the woman was injured in the attack.

The assailant, who was described by police as being in his 30s, was found slumped on the back doorstep of the couple's house, removed four hours after the shooting, the Sun Times reported.

No charges have been filed against the homeowner, but Chicago currently has a statute outlawing the possession of handguns. Its legality is currently being decided by the U.S. Supreme Court.

A high-profile Chicago attorney has already stepped forward offering to represent the man pro bono if he faces charges for possessing a weapon.

"Self-defense isn't just a right, it's a duty," said attorney Joel Brodsky. "If this man is prosecuted for saving his own life it's not just a travesty, it's justice turned inside out."

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CA Assembly votes to ban carrying guns openly

ONLY IN THE COMMUNIST COUNTRY OF CALIFORNIA 


People who support the state's open carry gun law are feeling threatened. California's assembly voted to ban gun owners from carrying their guns in public. Right now, its legal, but only if the weapon is unloaded. It is an old right that some believe is a new threat.

The Assembly voted in favor of the bill, which would make it a misdemeanor to carry an unloaded gun in public. Gun opponents also want violators to pay stiff fines as well, but groups like the NRA, hope the bill will die in the Senate.

"This is not a threat to the populous," says Schwartz.

Schwartz is a member of Bay Area Open Carry. He says he carries his gun, for protection. California law allows gun owners to carry their weapons in public, as long as they're not loaded. Assembly Bill 1934 is trying to change that; members voted to make it illegal to carry a gun in public.

"Bringing a gun into the public, makes the public less safe, we don't know the backgrounds of the people carrying the guns," says Karen Arntzen from the Brady Campaign.

The Brady Campaign to prevent gun violence backs the bill. They're sure, instances like these, where open carry members met in places like Starbucks in Livermore and Buck Horn Grill in Walnut Creek gave the bill's authors ammunition and got public sentiment on their side.

"What's the point of having a gun on your hip, if you're not going to do something with it? I don't believe a person wears a gun on their hip like a piece of jewelry," says Leonard Hurwitt from San Mateo.

People have reported seeing guns in public. ABC7's cameras were rolling when Livermore police responded to a call that a man with a gun was standing outside a cafe. It was an open carry member ABC7 was interviewing.

"It would scare me to see somebody wearing a gun from their waist," says Joan Berger from Hillsborough.

"Some people have a knee-jerk reaction to this method of open carry and I empathize with those people, however, they need to understand that their perceived fear does not trump everyone else's rights," says Schwartz.

The bill heads to the Senate next week and both sides are already calling state senators to get their support. The bill would also need the governor's signature before it can become a law.   


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[rickh]

ya.. freinds there have been open carrying for a few years, which is legal. People freaked out.... and now this. Too bad.

Move to AZ... we will have lots more room soon!

[tacman]

Umm, exactly WHY would you open carry in public if it is widely known the weapon is unloaded?    I mean you've already put yourself at a disadvantage by letting the bad guy know you have the weapon and it will have to be loaded before being fully functional. I, for the life of me, just don't understand the reasoning.

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[Buzz]

Umm, exactly WHY would you open carry in public if it is widely known the weapon is unloaded?    I mean you've already put yourself at a disadvantage by letting the bad guy know you have the weapon and it will have to be loaded before being fully functional. I, for the life of me, just don't understand the reasoning.

 Dan (tacman)

Dan  You of all people should be able to figure that one out.  EGO trip, Billy Bad ASS, give me some time and I'll think up a few more.  But Dan tell me why does a off duty Cop carry a weapon? I really don't want to hear the old pat ans. were allways on duty, that's BS   Cop's don't get paid for 24/7s do they!!    I better shut up but I'm on a roll, who else can I piss off today

[rickh]

Open carry in Calif.... magazine has to be out of the pistol, but is nearby.... like next to the pistol. It wasnt about ego with the guys I knew doing it, it was about being legal AND having an option if needed. Personally, I almost always carry... loaded and chambered... but its leagal here. In Calif, 99% dont and are ripe for the picking from the bad guys. Those few doing the open carry thing at least have an option to protect themselves.

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It wasnt about ego with the guys I knew doing it, it was about being legal AND having an option if needed. 

You'd be surprised at just who is carrying openly in CA... Not a bunch of rednecks, we're talking CxOs and Sr VPs of some of the biggest companies on the planet.

[tacman]

Open carry in Calif.... magazine has to be out of the pistol, but is nearby.... like next to the pistol. It wasnt about ego with the guys I knew doing it, it was about being legal AND having an option if needed. Personally, I almost always carry... loaded and chambered... but its leagal here. In Calif, 99% dont and are ripe for the picking from the bad guys. Those few doing the open carry thing at least have an option to protect themselves.

Rick, I understand your response and the ability of having an option. Maybe our bad guys here are smarter than the ones in Cali. They would just adjust their tactics so you wouldn't have the time to load. The risk factor for them is much lower knowing you have to load and possibly chamber before that weapon becomes usable, the risks totheem increase dramatically when the already loaded gun only has to be drawn.

 Dan (tacman)

[rickh]

yep.. dont get me wrong, open carry unloaded is goofy, but is better than nothing. One on one, I aint sure how it might work well... but in a situation where you are in a restraunt and someone starts shooting randomly, you have a chance. Look at Luby's in Texas, or the MacDonalds in SD.... either one may have been stopped if someone was open carrying.