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« Reply #150 on: June 03, 2010, 04:53:14 AM »

How long is the Arizona/Mexico border?
200 miles? Why not just set up a temporary franchise of Taco Bells every couple of
miles and keep a buncha handcuffs under the counter?

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« Reply #151 on: June 03, 2010, 09:24:22 AM »

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K+ for sharing that! Clap Interesting reading, now to get people to read it! yes

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« Reply #152 on: June 03, 2010, 12:08:55 PM »

thanks capt... my job is to inform, I do it all the time. I wont argue or debate, I just let people learn and act.
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« Reply #153 on: June 03, 2010, 06:33:46 PM »

rickh, Thanks for sharing.   applause
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« Reply #154 on: June 04, 2010, 01:59:42 AM »

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« Reply #155 on: June 04, 2010, 02:43:17 AM »

Bill That was a good one. That makes us a majority of three doesn't it!   American Flag American Flag American Flag waving flag waving flag waving flag
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« Reply #156 on: June 04, 2010, 04:54:20 AM »

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« Reply #157 on: June 06, 2010, 10:44:51 PM »

Video of us riding to the capital.....

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« Reply #158 on: June 09, 2010, 03:10:19 AM »

Seems fitting some days....

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« Reply #159 on: June 09, 2010, 12:29:11 PM »

US-Mexico tensions heightened after US Border Patrol agent kills Mexican teen near El Paso

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CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico (AP) — Mexicans are seething over the second death of a countryman at the hands of U.S. Border Patrol agents in two weeks, an incident near downtown El Paso that is threatening to escalate tensions over migrant issues.

U.S. authorities said Tuesday a Border Patrol agent was defending himself and colleagues when he fatally shot the 15-year-old as officers came under a barrage of big stones while trying to detain illegal immigrants on the U.S. side of the Rio Grande.

About 30 relatives and friends gathered late Tuesday to mourn Sergio Adrian Hernandez Huereka, whose shooting Monday evening came along the border with Texas. He died on the Mexican side of the river.

"Damn them! Damn them!" sobbed Rosario Hernandez, sister of the dead teenager, at a wake in the family's two-room adobe house on the outskirts of Ciudad Juarez.

Preliminary reports on the incident indicated that U.S. officers on bicycle patrol "were assaulted with rocks by an unknown number of people," Border Patrol Special Operations Supervisor Ramiro Cordero said Tuesday.

"During the assault at least one agent discharged his firearm," he said. "The agent is currently on administrative leave. A thorough, multi-agency investigation is currently ongoing."

The shooting happened beneath a railroad bridge linking the two nations, and late Tuesday night a banner appeared on the bridge that said in English: "U.S. Border Patrol we worry about the violence in Mex and murders and now you. Viva Mexico!"

Less than two weeks ago, Mexican migrant Anastasio Hernandez, 32, died after a Customs and Border Protection officer shocked him with a stun gun at the San Ysidro border crossing that separates San Diego and Tijuana, Mexico. The San Diego medical examiner's office ruled that death a homicide.

Mexican President Felipe Calderon said Tuesday that his government "will use all resources available to protect the rights of Mexican migrants."

The government "reiterates its rejection to the disproportionate use of force on the part on U.S. authorities on the border with Mexico," the president added in a statement.

On an unpaved street, gathered around Hernandez's gray metal casket, the teen's family called for justice.

"There is a God, so why would I want vengeance if no one will return him to me. They killed my little boy and the only thing I ask is for the law" to be applied, said the boy's father, Jesus Hernandez.

His mother was less hopeful. "May God forgive them because I know nothing will happen" to them, Maria Guadalupe Huereka said.

Above the casket was a photo of the youth wearing his soccer uniform and his junior high school grade cards, which showed A's and B's.

His mother said he was a good student who never got in trouble. He was the youngest of five children, played on two soccer teams and had just finished junior high school, she said.

The case took a testy turn when U.S. and Mexican officials traded suggestions of misconduct in the incident.

Arturo Sandoval, a spokesman for the Chihuahua state Attorney General's office, said a spent .40-caliber shell casing was found near the body — raising the question of whether the fatal shot was fired inside Mexico, although he did not explicitly make that allegation. That would violate the rules for Border Patrol agents, who are supposed to stay on the U.S. side of the border.

A U.S. official, meanwhile, said video shows the Border Patrol agent did not enter Mexico.

The official, who agreed to discuss the matter only if not quoted by name, said the video also shows what seem to be four Mexican law enforcement officers driving to the edge of the dry but muddy bed of the Rio Grande, walking across to the U.S. side, picking up an undetermined object and returning to Mexico near the area where the boy's body was. Like their U.S. counterparts, Mexican law officers are not authorized to cross the border without permission.

According to the FBI, Border Patrol agents were responding to a group of suspected illegal immigrants being smuggled into the U.S. near the Paso Del Norte bridge, across from Ciudad Juarez around 6:30 p.m. Monday.

One suspected illegal immigrant was detained on the levee on the U.S. side, the FBI said in a statement. Another Border Patrol agent arrived on the concrete bank where the now-dry, 33-foot (10-meter) wide Rio Grande is, and detained a second person. Other suspects ran back into Mexico and began throwing rocks, the FBI said.

At least one rock came from behind the agent, who was kneeling beside a suspected illegal immigrant whom he had prone on the ground, FBI spokeswoman Andrea Simmons said.

The agent told the rock throwers to stop and back off, but they continued. The agent fired his weapon several times, hitting one who later died, said the FBI, which is leading the investigation because it involved an assault on a federal officer. The agent was not injured, Simmons said.

Chihuahua state officials released a statement demanding a full investigation into the death.

The boy was shot once near the eye, Sandoval said. Authorities were still investigating the bullet's trajectory, he said.

Sandoval said he couldn't comment on the video reported by the U.S. official because he didn't know anything about it. "I am unaware about those hypotheses," he said.

Sandoval said Mexican investigators were questioning three teenagers who were with the victim at the time of the shooting.

The boy's sister, Rosario, told Associated Press Television News that her brother was playing with several friends and did not plan to cross the border.

"They say that they started firing from over there and suddenly hit him in the head," she said.

The boy's mother said he had gone to eat with his brother, who handles luggage at a border customs office. While there, he met up with a group of friends and they decided to hang out by the river, she said.

"That was his mistake, to have gone to the river," she said in an interview with Mexico's Milenio TV. "That's why they killed him."

Mexico's Foreign Relations Department said its records indicate the number of Mexicans killed or wounded by U.S. immigration authorities rose from five in 2008 to 12 in 2009 to 17 so far this year, which is not half over.

T.J. Bonner, president of the union representing Border Patrol agents, said rock throwing aimed at Border Patrol agents is common and capable of causing serious injury.

"It is a deadly force encounter, one that justifies the use of deadly force," Bonner said.

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« Reply #160 on: June 09, 2010, 12:30:34 PM »

 lightning bolt Hmmmmmm  can you say justified shootings   lightning bolt


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« Reply #161 on: June 09, 2010, 12:47:11 PM »

thanks joeylc ... I tried but failed embedding that video. Whats funnier, the origional just had an ugly cartoon-like character, not picture clips... song seems the same tho.
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« Reply #162 on: June 09, 2010, 04:22:43 PM »

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US-Mexico tensions heightened after US Border Patrol agent kills Mexican teen near El Paso



CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico (AP) — Mexicans are seething over the second death of a countryman at the hands of U.S. Border Patrol agents in two weeks, an incident near downtown El Paso that is threatening to escalate tensions over migrant issues.





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« Reply #163 on: June 09, 2010, 05:42:25 PM »

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« Reply #164 on: June 09, 2010, 06:02:34 PM »

You got a big stick, just stirring the POT don't ya Joey you just gotta look at all this in another light. You have all these poor Mexicans down on the boarder that can't be wrapped real tight, think about it they are trying to sneak into Arizona of all places!!   stir the pot / get cooking stir the pot / get cooking stir the pot / get cooking stir the pot / get cooking stir the pot / get cooking


Joey they must have had one of the Illegals make that bill board for them. Last time I looked at a map I-8 doesn't go to LA. ( To save all you the trouble of looking it up, I-8 goes from Arizona to San Diego )   
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« Reply #165 on: June 09, 2010, 09:49:01 PM »

then north 1.5 hours to LA... from the Mexico border, it is the fastest way there.
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« Reply #166 on: June 09, 2010, 09:55:23 PM »

FBI: Mexicans chased away agents after slaying

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« Reply #167 on: June 10, 2010, 09:48:12 PM »

Racism blamed  Duh! Duh! Duh! Duh! Duh! Duh!

Chihuahua Gov. José Reyes Baeza blamed the two killings on racism fueled by Arizona's law.

"We believe that this killing, the second in recent days in the border between the two countries, is due to xenophobia and racism, derived from the approval of Arizona's anti-immigration law," Reyes said.

Mexico's Foreign Relations Ministry said its records indicate that the number of Mexicans killed or wounded by immigration authorities rose from five in 2008 to 12 in 2009 to 17 so far this year, which is not half over.

Meanwhile, the Border Patrol released statistics showing that assaults on agents along the border between El Paso and Juárez were on pace to far exceed totals in the previous four years.

Since October, Border Patrol agents in the El Paso sector have been assaulted 33 times, compared with 39 times in the previous fiscal year. Twenty-nine of those incidents were rock-throwing, compared with 31 such incidents in all of fiscal 2009.

T.J. Bonner, president of the union representing Border Patrol agents, said rock throwing aimed at Border Patrol agents is common and is capable of causing serious injury.

"It is a deadly force encounter, one that justifies the use of deadly force," Bonner said.

The mother of the boy killed Monday said in a television interview that she doubted the U.S. version of events and quoted a witness as saying her son had raised his hands just before he was shot.

"I am sure my son did not attack them. He wasn't like that," MarĂ­a Guadalupe Huereca said. "His only mistake was being near the river ... staying there to watch.

"My son paid for what others did," she added, breaking down in sobs.

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« Reply #168 on: June 11, 2010, 02:29:08 AM »

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« Reply #169 on: June 11, 2010, 03:02:03 AM »

Quote from: Rod Serling
Young (man), I’m going to talk about morality. The morality of hating (__*). Because there is a morality in hatred. It happens to be a clue to survival. Nations can feed on it. They find their strength in it. They are nurtured by it. But there must be an object of hatred.

Suddenly, in front of us, out steps an (__*) , an unassimilated foreigner in our midst. And so we hate him, and in the process, we are unified.

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__*  insert the people you wish to hate here. Today, it’s illegal aliens from Mexico, and the “nation” is the state of Arizona. When Serling wrote this, it was someone else. You get one guess. The man in the film speaking the lines above was a Nazi officer, speaking to a younger junior officer.


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« Reply #170 on: June 11, 2010, 04:15:42 AM »

no anger and hate here...
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« Reply #171 on: June 11, 2010, 10:23:34 AM »

There might be anger and hate but I think its more resentment. I think all Americans understand wanting to be in this country, its a no brainer!  Duh! The problem is the ILLEGAL act getting here, "possibly" taking a job here ILLEGALLY and becoming a financial drain on the economy for health, food and housing assistance. Hell, I'm against that even from natural born citizens! Then throw the refusal for assimilation and expectation to appease their "home" language and customs!  frying pan Hell, maybe people in Cali, Texas and New Mexico just make more cash than Arizona. Thats why those states are not making and enforcing laws like this as well. The shame is that if you can insulate yourself from the problem, by making enough money so you can live in an area that isn't exposed to the problem, it doesn't concern you. But then IMHO you don't have an informed experience or opinion on the problem. Lastly, its hard to have an informed opinion on the problem when our media only releases slanted information from whichever side of the aisle they are on politically. Sad, Sad, Sad.

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« Reply #172 on: June 11, 2010, 12:26:04 PM »

I am always curious how we figure out which laws we enforce vs those we will ignore. Illegals and their supporters want the immigration lawbreakers ignored... why not hookers? Drug dealers? Tax cheats? Child molesters? Drunk drivers? Who draws this line, the media? Politicians? Us?

And when some city is attacked by someone that shouldnt be here ie invader from any other country, where will the finger pointing go after that? To those attempting to stop the free flow of people dancing across the open borders? Nope... it will fall directly on those supporting the illegals coming in and staying, from any country.
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« Reply #173 on: June 11, 2010, 03:43:29 PM »

Viva Arizona!

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  U.S. Border Patrol Seizes Marijuana Backpacks, Arrests Smuggler Friday, 11 June 2010 07:58 U.S. Border Patrol

Wellton, AZ. — U.S. Border Patrol agents seized more than a quarter million dollars worth of marijuana and arrested a suspected smuggler east of Lukeville, Ariz., early Tuesday morning.

Just after midnight, Border Patrol agents assigned to Yuma sector’s Camp Grip detected the illegal entry of six individuals about 15 miles east of the Lukeville port of entry. Agents tracked the group on foot for about two hours when they came across eight abandoned makeshift backpacks full of marijuana.

Border Patrol agents secured the contraband and continued searching for the group that had begun walking south toward Mexico. Agents later located and arrested one man from the group; the remaining five men fled back into Mexico to avoid apprehension.

Agents transported the suspected smuggler and bundles of marijuana to the Wellton Border Patrol station for processing. Agents seized a total of 314 pounds of marijuana with an estimated street value of $251,200.00

Camp Grip is Yuma sector’s tactically deployed forward operating base that is designed to maintain effective control of the seam between the Yuma and Tucson sectors. These bases act as a deterrent and an additional detection platform, ensuring that smuggling organizations understand that if they operate in these areas, they will be pursued and apprehended.

To report suspicious activity, contact the Yuma Sector Border Patrol’s toll free telephone number at 1-866-999-8727.
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« Reply #174 on: June 11, 2010, 03:49:33 PM »

Hmm...314lbs Total pot seized / 6 individual backpacks = 52-1/4lbs per backpack = $251,200.00?

This pot made out of gold?  bust gut laughing
That's big bloody backpacks...about the size of a haywagon...

This brings up the proverbial trick question:


What's heavier? 100lbs of hay or 100lbs of bricks?
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