My new Game King!!! (Photos and Video)

[StatFreak]

No. There are replaceable spacers for coins of different widths. 

[Yoeddy1]

Here are some photos.  Let me know if you need me to show anything else.

Thanks,
Jason

[Yoeddy1]

One more:

[StatFreak]

Thanks Stat.  I actually took it apart last night.  I removed two screws and the cable plug that goes directly into the optics board.  It looked like board is sandwiched between two black pieces of black plastic.  Are you saying that the inner black piece of plastic that has the 3 holes that allow the optics to make contact (via light I'm guessing) could be made for a quarter instead of a nickel, thus giving me intermittent behavior?  I may need to snap photos.

Thanks,
Jason

No. There are replaceable spacers for coins of different widths. 

Oops.   My bad.    Yes, it IS the piece with the holes in it.

I believe that yours is too large, but I'm not certain. Would another member post and confirm whether or not his spacer is too large for a nickel?

Here is a picture of the spacer from my quarter machine for comparison.

SF

[Yoeddy1]

Yeah, that spacer that you have looks to be identical to mine size wise.  If there is one for a nickel, then the optic that's coming probably won't make a difference...perhaps I'm wrong.  Anyway, are the other spacers easy to come by?

Thanks again for the help.

Jason

[knagl]

If you have a quarter sized one and you're using nickels, then yes, it's likely that your optics are just fine.  If you can move a nickel through there by hand and not cover all three holes, that would cause your "out of sequence" coin-in error.  The machine expects (and requires) coins to pass by the optics in order from top to bottom, covering the top one, then the top and middle, then all three, then the middle and bottom, then the bottom, then none.

Depending on how much of the optics assembly you're being sent, though, you might get the part you need.

If it's really an issue right now, some creative use of tape and cardboard could be used to shim up the sides, forcing the nickles more to the middle so they don't miss any of the optics as they pass.

[Yoeddy1]

Thanks knagl.  Can a nickel sized one (plastic passthrough) be had?

[knagl]

I'm sure they're out there -- I haven't used one myself, but I'm sure that there are different ones for each coin size (nickel, quarter, dollar token, etc.).

[Yoeddy1]

Wow thanks for the video. My mouth is watering. I'm picking up the Gameking I-Game combo with 5.3 software  from  Jim at Bettorslots. and your video has got me even more excited. Mike

-No card animations (Jack, King, Queen don't change into castle, trumpet, mirror when the game is idle)  Wish 5.3 did this.
Probably more...that's all I have for now.

Thanks,
Jason

I have to make one edit...the 5.3 game DOES include the card animations.  I think the attract mode demos just don't allow enough time for this to happen due to the rapid refresh cycles.  If you throw some coins in and wait a minute or so before proceeding, the cards do indeed go into animation mode.  The ace's shield icon didn't change in the older version, but in 5.3, the shield turns into a spinning sword.  Kinda cool.

[Yoeddy1]

Hey guys,

I'm going nuts with this "Coin In" jam.  It doesn't happen often, but it happens.  I received the replacement spacer and it's the same as the original.  I noticed that engraved in the spacer is "5 cents."  He also sent me a 25 cent spacer by mistake.  I tried it as well and as expected, same issue.  I've noticed that the comparitor has an adjustment knob.  If I turn it all the way to the right, coins will just fall through.  All the way to the left, they register, but I seem to get more coin out messages.  I've played around with various adjustments in between...further to the right, not as many coin jam errors, but more coins fall through to the tray unregistered, and further to the left, more coin in errors, but no coins fall to the tray unregistered.  Looking at the photos above, the spacer and backplate have 3 holes.  The optic pcb only has two (what I'm guessing are called) emitters.  Is this normal?  Why the third hole at the top if nothing shines through it?  I've cleaned the optics as well.  Outside of replacing the optic pcb, any other ideas or am I expecting too much?  Is a 100% rate of coins registering realistic or is it normal to get coin in/sequence jams?

Thanks,
Jason

[stayouttadabunker]

I thought the optic boards need 3 optics on each board?
3 optics on one board are emitters while 3 optics on the other board are receivers.
You have the 10-pin or 5-pin coin-in optic boards?
There are different models of coin-in optic boards.
There are A,B,C optics and A,B optics.

The coin-in optic boards sense the coin and send the
signal back to the computer for a credit to be registered.
The coin comparitor only senses the size, and density of the coin.
Again, there are different models of coin comparitors.
For simplicity's sake, the coin comparitors with the two green wires are 13V
while the coin comparitors with the two gray wires are 24V.

If the coin going through the coin comparitor is okay,
it goes down to the coin-in optic boards then out into
either the hopper bowl or the bucket below -
depending on how many coins are in the hopper.
The coin divertor solenoid controls this part.

If the coin comparitor doesn't like the coin - the rake solenoid throws it
into the coin tray chute.
The coin comparitor doesn't send any signals back to the
computer for credits whether it likes the coin or not.

[Yoeddy1]

When I take the connector plug off of the PCB, there are 5 pins.

[reho33]

There should be 3 optics a,b,c. (I could be wrong about this and defer to higher powers).

[stayouttadabunker]

One of the optics, either receiver or emitter, may be half shot -
This may be why it's giving you intermittent readings when the coins fall between the eyes.
When it signals start acting up, one off the board components
might be going bad and falling out of specs.
The board components dealing with the timing of the coin falling through the eyes are
sending inconsistent signals back to the computer giving you headaches.
Time for new coin-in optic boards perhaps.
They're like tiny little light bulbs - they don't last forever.
Usually the emitter optics go first.

[Yoeddy1]

The seller is replacing the comparitor, optic board assy.  I'm picking up the parts this weekend on our way to a family vaction.  I'll let you know Sunday how it goes!

[uniman]

I'm pretty sure your comparitor has no bearing on the coin-in jams. (certain comparitors like the CC-62 do produce coin-in errors)
The coin-in jams are not acceptable in my book! Shouldn't happen.

Glad to hear the seller is correcting your problem

[stayouttadabunker]

I'd like to say something about coin comparitor coin-in jams, if I may...
This can happen if the weighted pawl is too heavy for the coin denomination.
For example, a heavier weighted pawl meant for a larger token or a .50 piece will cause
jams if you're trying to throw quarters, nickels or dimes down the slot.
The weighted pawl will not release the 1st coins fast enough for the next coins to pass through.

Another thing is there may be some old, black gum inside the coin comparitor
along the walls that's causing the coins to fall through slower than normal.
This debris will cause timing errors as they pass through the optical eyes.
Sometimes pushing pipe cleaner Q-tip type of brush with a little bit of
warm water will help remove the gummy stuff.

The black gummy stuff is basically the dirtiest stuff known to casinos.
Basically it's a horrible combination of a mix of fecal dirt, lint, and bodily fluids...ugh!

[uniman]

Fecal matter?
Are people crapping in your slot machines or are they pulling money out of their      ? 


I have seen a lot of "funk" in machines from casinos. Like to think it is drinks and pocket lint and not fecal and bodily fuilds! 

But you are right that an object or junk in a comparitor that slows down the coin may cause the optics to see the coin(s) as too slow.

[Yoeddy1]

 

Picked up the new comparitor/optics assembly, installed it, and ran about 3 billion nickels through it.  Issue resolved!  I'm going to say optics related problem. 

Thanks again for all of the help guys!

Jason

[stayouttadabunker]

That's just plain awesome!!!!
LOL...yep Uni !!!..."fecal matter"....
People don't always wash their hands before leaving the restrooms...