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« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2009, 02:28:06 AM »
do you like your EasyPRO 90B Foster?
Is it hard to make copies and backups?
What's the main difference between yours and the one I'm looking at?


ADD>>>I've been going to the MCUMall forums...I found lots of info on programming there...
This is a great link for people that might want some more help with chipburners
http://www.mcumall.com/forum/default.asp
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« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2009, 02:37:05 AM »
It is easy to do backups with either version.

For me to use the EasyPRO 90B I have to switch to XP Pro 32bit which I run in Sun's VirtualBox. The EasyPRO does not have a 64 bit driver yet.
Which I have even done with Mac OS X 10.5.6 as the Host OS and run the Mac OS X version of VirtualBox
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« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2009, 02:50:38 AM »
Thank you Foster for your valued opinion...I think I'll go get one....
I may be back for more questions! lol

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« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2009, 04:24:54 AM »
I bought a Wellon VP280 from MCUmall, and I'm very pleased with it. Not a lot more than the EasyPro 90 or GQ-4X. I picked this one because it can do the particular programmable logic devices and processors I use as well as EPROMs.



I think the main thing is to pick one that can do 40 pin devices, for those odd occasions when you need to burn a set chip or a set of Aristocrat ROMs.
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« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2009, 07:30:04 AM »
I use the Xeltek 3000U  programmer and love it.

http://www.xeltek.com/product.php?productid=16142

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« Reply #30 on: January 27, 2009, 07:46:27 AM »
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I use the Xeltek 3000U  programmer and love it.

http://www.xeltek.com/product.php?productid=16142



Umm,    $1,195.00    Owww!

It looks like a great programmer and the company looks like it provides top notch support. If you are a pro who uses the programmer many times a day and it makes money for you, then $1200 isn't out of line, but for the home slot owner, that's another slot machine or two.
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« Reply #31 on: January 27, 2009, 07:56:42 AM »
I have the use of a Xeltek 3000U at work, and it's nice, but I have yet to find anything I need it for that my $120 Wellon can't handle.

The Xeltek was my first Google search when I decided to get a programmer myself, but I was a bit put off when I saw that Xeltek is working real hard to keep its price high. If you don't pay full price through an authorized western distributor, you can't get software. That tells me the real price is probably more like $200 in China, where it's made.
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« Reply #32 on: January 27, 2009, 08:16:20 AM »
The important thing to look for in a programmer is universal pin drivers. That means that any pin can have any function - VCC, ground, address, data, input, output or any of the high voltages needed. When you have that, all programmers are essentially the same - it's just down to the software to configure them. I strongly suspect that the main difference between a $100 unit and a $400 unit is the color of the plastic case and the number of devices supported in the software.
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« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2009, 09:13:52 AM »
Quote from: Op-Bell on January 27, 2009, 07:56:42 AM
I have the use of a Xeltek 3000U at work, and it's nice, but I have yet to find anything I need it for that my $120 Wellon can't handle

I know one thing the 3000U will do that most won't, biplolar Cap chips for the PE+, when I bought my Xeltek before the 3000U was out I was told it would do anything before and more, not true, only the higher end stuff does some really old and the trickier stuff, but the newer software is easier, moral of story, wish I had the old burner I had back in 1998 back just to do the Cap chips
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« Reply #34 on: January 27, 2009, 03:52:16 PM »
Quote from: stayouttadabunker on January 27, 2009, 02:28:06 AM
do you like your EasyPRO 90B Foster?
Is it hard to make copies and backups?
What's the main difference between yours and the one I'm looking at?


ADD>>>I've been going to the MCUMall forums...I found lots of info on programming there...
This is a great link for people that might want some more help with chipburners
http://www.mcumall.com/forum/default.asp


I have used my easypro 90b on windows xp and vista, so far it has been great.  I check for updates and send them feedback when I come across a chip it can't handle.

Thanks,
Wayne
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« Reply #35 on: January 27, 2009, 05:28:37 PM »
thanks a lot guys....
kudos+ to everyone that gave their opinion or helped!
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« Reply #36 on: January 27, 2009, 05:43:29 PM »
There are certain sellers on ebay that are in China where you can get the Xeltec cheaper and they are considered authorized dealers, so you can get the free lifetime software updates.

Cheaper is still $500 to $600 though.  I use mine for programming a lot of advanced devices and have about 20 different adapters for it.  I also have the 100 pin adapter.

The speed of the unit and the 46,000 plus devices that it supports was what sold me.  However, I can see how one would not want to pay the price for such a unit if they were only going to use it for burning  eproms.

I like mine so much that eventually I will  buy another one for my business when the need arises.

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« Reply #37 on: January 27, 2009, 07:58:58 PM »
If you had a programmer could you buy the [game] file to upload on it? 
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« Reply #38 on: January 27, 2009, 08:46:19 PM »
Quote from: jdkmunch on January 27, 2009, 07:58:58 PM
If you had a programmer could you buy the [game] file to upload on it? 

No. Selling or trading the program files is not allowed. You still have to buy the original chips for the game with the glass and strips, but the programmer allows you to back the chip up in case something happens, such as breaking a pin on the chip when changing games, or data corruption because of a problem with the machine, etc.

When you end up with 20 or 200 games kits you'll want the peace of mind. yes  bust gut laughing bust gut laughing
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« Reply #39 on: January 27, 2009, 08:49:34 PM »
I understand  - I know because I was planning on buying a motherboard and tray for each game I own.
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« Reply #40 on: January 27, 2009, 08:53:49 PM »
Quote from: blueridgeslots on January 27, 2009, 09:13:52 AM
I know one thing the 3000U will do that most won't, biplolar Cap chips for the PE+, when I bought my Xeltek before the 3000U was out I was told it would do anything before and more, not true, only the higher end stuff does some really old and the trickier stuff, but the newer software is easier, moral of story, wish I had the old burner I had back in 1998 back just to do the Cap chips


While it wouldn't fly for casino use, Stolistic has developed an adaptor that can be used so you can use a standard EPROM in place of the CAP chip on a PE+ -- no more bi-polar chips needed.  Details (and ordering) here.
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« Reply #41 on: January 27, 2009, 09:20:51 PM »
lots of approvals and red tape to go through to get it approved to use in a real casino
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« Reply #42 on: January 27, 2009, 09:27:08 PM »
Hence my comment, "while it wouldn't fly for casino use"...

It's fine for the home resale market, though.
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« Reply #43 on: January 27, 2009, 09:40:37 PM »
Quote from: jdkmunch on January 27, 2009, 08:49:34 PM
I understand  - I know because I was planning on buying a motherboard and tray for each game I own.

A burner will be cheaper. arrow  bust gut laughing bust gut laughing bust gut laughing bust gut laughing

Seriously, it's a good idea to have a spare MPU board or three lying around, but one for every kit could be a bit much, even for the addicts around here!
btw, the board that you pull out and that houses these chips is called the MPU board, or Microprocessor Unit Board. The motherboard is the board that the MPU board plugs into.
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« Reply #44 on: January 27, 2009, 10:39:53 PM »
If your talking about MPU boards for an S+ I'll sell 10 for $100 plus shipping.
They are working, boards, but need the battery replaced.
So I should say non working until the battery is replaced.
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« Reply #45 on: January 28, 2009, 12:54:01 AM »
Quote from: knagl on January 27, 2009, 09:27:08 PM
Hence my comment, "while it wouldn't fly for casino use"...

It's fine for the home resale market, though.

Oh I thought it said why wouldn't it fly...
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« Reply #46 on: January 28, 2009, 01:03:27 AM »


Oh I thought it said why wouldn't it fly...

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« Reply #47 on: January 28, 2009, 01:10:37 AM »
Red bulls are fine but the crash is what gets you. I was at a party not long ago and they were having red bull and jagermeister.. pardon me while I vomit  vomit
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« Reply #48 on: January 28, 2009, 11:09:09 PM »
I'm thinking about getting a programmer that is good for both a Bally 5500 and an s+ - the GQ-4X Willem

What is the difference between the Programmer Full Pack and the Light Pack?

Besides the $30   Scratch Head
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« Reply #49 on: January 29, 2009, 02:39:38 AM »
I not sure JDK but,
you can buy the full pack without the plastic cover for the same price as the light pack with a cover.
I think for the 30 extra bucks is:   the white plastic cover?

The other difference I see is that the covered ones are 40-pin ZIF sockets as compared with the non-covered 32-pin ZIF sockets.

The Full pack gives you three adpaters (PLCC32-DIP32/PLCC32-DIP28/FWH+/LPC+/ and a PLCC extractor.
You dont get these adapters with "light pack"....good deal? s'up to you--would you ever need 'em?
Maybe someone could tell us the importance of having these PLCC adapters?
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