IGT S+ bill validator

[stayouttadabunker]

Do you have a spare IBA to swap and try?

[sopat]

unfortunately no.
very difficult to find  someone in France who has a slot machine and even less equipped with note acceptor...

[reho33]

What is it supposed to take? French Francs or Euros??

[sopat]

There is no more French Francs since 10 years (01-01-2000), and it is same for all European currencies.
Only the Euro is the legal currency for all European countries.
 Switzerland has kept the Swiss Francs: the Switzerland does not an European country, despite its location.
Well, my BV accepts only Euros ...

[stayouttadabunker]

sopat,
These guys had the IBA4 Note Acceptor with similar problems as yours.
Their solution wasn't with the bill acceptor but rather
the problem lay with the MPU board in the machine?

I'm beginning to wonder if you might need to try another MPU board?
Do you have a spare board?
They are not expensive to purchase.

[sopat]

wrong way : i have already tried with other CPU board. Trouble still.
I am thinking, i have not tried with a new motherboard. 
And also, game and BV denomination.
I know change game denomination with ChipSet, but it is possible to check BV denomination ?? where check it ??
Thks

[stayouttadabunker]

Here's a Program Summary Report for your SP731 chip.
I think it's options setting <6> on the self-test pages.

[sopat]

Well i am using SP1137 that fit better With Euro set up.
Option 6 is game denomination.
This text asking me some questions :

Bill Rejection Feature
Bills are rejected if an y of the following conditions occur:  the
game denomination is higher than the bill denomination; the bill
inserted is not a multiple of the game denomination; the credit
value of the accepted bill plus any credits on the game exceeds the
bill acceptor credit limit that is set in the self test mode; or the
number of bills inserted consecutively between games exceeds the
bill limit set in the self test mode.
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[stayouttadabunker]

Here in the States - we set our game denominations to any
one of these .01 (penny),  .05 (cents), .25 (quarter )  .50 (half dollar) or a $1.00 (dollar piece)
What do casinos in France set them for?
I don't know your currency.
If you have some kind of bill equal to a dollar bill - set your game denom to a .25 (quarter?)

[sopat]

denomination was set on .50 EuroCents and worked perfectly... before i change the game...
BV accepts (should) all € bills exepted 500€.
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[jay]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_coins
Euros coins are .01, .02, .05, .10, .20, .50, 1, 2
The smallest note is a 5.

If you have it set to any denomination (and not setting a denomination is a common cause for bill rejection) I doubt that what you set it to is larger than a 5.00

IF this was me. I would probably start by identifing the type of hopper and finding which Euro Coin flows through the easiest.
IF this came from America the quarter hopper and dollar hopper were the most common.

The Euro .50 is probably the closest match between the two countries if you are comparing size and weight.
The US Quarter is 24.26 and the .50 Euro is 24.25

I opted to use Pachislo tokens so none of the neighbor kids loose their lunch money. These are roughly the size of a quarter as well.
They are slighltly larger than a quarter but are close enough that my rolling machine fits them nicely into a commerical quarter tube.
The counter/roller has an adjustment that lets me choose the size of coin to accept and then it rejects all others. If I dump in a hand full of quarters these are rejected when
its set to the token size.  I have also heard (many) reports that these tokens cause nasty jams to the coin elevators in the slant tops. Never any problems with the quarter hoppers.

Just for interest sake in Canada our smallest note is also a 5, with a Loonie and Toonie replacing $1 and $2 bills.

Subsequently with a Euro note set the denomination to 0.50 and when you put in a euro note you will get ten credits for the Euro 5 bill.

Hope this helps.

[sopat]

thank you for these explanations, but i have no problem with coins :
Slot machine works perfectly with coins, but does not accept any bill.
Anyway, i am going to try a highter denomination for testing.

[sopat]

try with highter denomination : same problem.
RamClear done : same problem.
  
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[jay]

Start with the basics.

1. Is the acceptor light on ?? if NO then the bill will be rejected. You need to use a set chip.
2. Is the value of the coin choose higher than the bill you are using (not likely) however it is possible to set 10 25 50 100 token values .... make sure you are choosing 0.50 and not 50.
3. Is the game type and the acceptor type the same. My games are mostly all the same type but I have one or two that use a different value of validator and I have to change a dip switch.
   This is outlined in the PAR sheet...... What game theme do you have.....  

[sopat]

Red White Blue deluxe, see picture above.
There is not any dipswitch on the BV (IBA4).
I have already checked all you spoke.
I have not any ideas ...

[stayouttadabunker]

He is using the SP1137.
Attached to this post below is an PSR for it...>>>

[jay]

I was thinking PAR (specific to the game) not PSR but I see in your attachment it reads ..... Uses ID-023

So that kills that. Unless his previous game was ID-022 ?

What was in the machine previously ?

[sopat]

i replaced already with the original game (Double Black Tie). set up again,
but despite that, BV is on, but doesn't accept any bills.
With this original game, when i bought the machine BV worked very well !
something has been lost between BV and CPU board. But what ?!
CPU and motherboard are original items.
I cannot find other BV to test with a new one.

[sopat]

original chip game (DBL BLACK TIE) is : SP0856
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[jay]

This is just a long shot.....

In the game menu there is an option to disable or enable the bill validator.
This is over and above the use of the set chip.

Perhaps disable the bill validator via the game chip. Play a game or two. Then go back in and re-enable.

My theory being perhaps some bit is stuck in some register and that by cycling off and on it might clear.
You have moved between two major revisions of the game chip which usually does mess up the cmos.
The Clear chip should have fixed this but you just never know.

[sopat]

I thank you all so much for your efforts, but i have tried a thousand manipulations.
but no result. Chips are tired to be placed and replaced ! (and me too)...
Exactly, the bill is eaten by the BV. About  3 seconds later the bill is rejected.
Big headhache ! !
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[jay]

You probably have.... but try a different (older) Bill Perhaps ???

I know the Euro has a number of different pictures, perhaps the bill you are using is a new series not recognised by this version of the software.

[paul]

does it sound smooth when validator sets up if it dosent reseat cash box also clean head optics

[a69mopar]

don't use windex or any other cleaner on the optics.  this can ruin them(lens).

W

[sopat]

I tryed a lot of bills. Older and new.
Clean carrefuly optics.
And the sound is strictly the same since i have this slot.
 
Does someone here could contact IGT to try to get informations about this trouble ?
They don't want help me because i don't work in a French Casino.
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