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« on: July 16, 2010, 08:20:14 PM »

...or at least its customers thought so, after a one-month experiment of adding "teakwood" scent to its air conditioning:

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/jul/14/palms-attempt-smell-good-left-bad-taste/


Palms turns up its nose at effort to scent casino
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Ever since it shot to fame as the setting of MTV’s “Real World” series in 2002, the Palms has enjoyed a reputation as the sexy, young hipster among Las Vegas resorts.

It has used everything it can to stay popular with the 20-somethings — reality TV-fame, celebrity patrons, trendy nightclubs, a new concert venue, a recording studio. Most recently it even tried on the earthy, leathery scent of a grandfather’s cologne.

No, we’re not talking about the latest Hugh Hefner visit. Palms executives wanted to copy several Strip resorts’ longstanding practice of pumping a signature scent through their casinos and lobbies. It’s commercialized aromatherapy aimed at making people want to stay longer, spend more money and come back soon to spend even more.

The Palms scent — teakwood, named after the Southeast Asian tropical hardwood — did leave a lasting impression — but for too many people, apparently, that impression was a bad one.

“The place literally stinks. I’d almost rather smell the smoke,” one tourist noted in his online review.

“They thought it would attract people, meanwhile, I think all people have been doing is complaining about it,” a Palms employee commented.

That’s why the smell ended in late June after wafting through the Palms for less than a month.

George Maloof, owner of the Palms, said he had objected to scenting his property all along.

“It was one of those things that someone talked me into, so I said ‘OK. We’ll try it’ and after a few weeks, I really didn’t like it,” he said.

Maloof has never been a fan of using fragrances in his resorts. He said he has “a sensitive nose” that even makes him averse to garlic.

He previously tried a fragrance on part of the casino floor when the Palms opened in 2001, but quickly axed it.

“I said, ‘Do we have to do it just because everyone else is doing it?’ ”

It’s a trend that started in 1990 with Steve Wynn’s Mirage when Los Angeles-based AromaSys pumped a Polynesian scent through the the property’s vents.

AromaSys isn’t the company that dealt what was smelt at the Palms. Neither Maloof nor Palms spokesman Larry Fink would say who was.

AromaSys is to thank for the coconut aroma wafting through Mandalay Bay, the blend of lemon and ginger at the Encore spa and the scents at Caesars Palace, Luxor, Venetian, MGM Grand and Monte Carlo.

AromaSys mainly uses two systems to distribute fragrances through large properties such as Strip resorts. One is electrostatic technology, distributing fragrance through the duct work of the building with a subtle electric charge. The other is a nebulizer, which pumps air over the fragrance material and through vents.

It can cost $20,000 to $500,000 or more a year to perfume a large resort or casino, depending on the number of areas and the type of fragrance used, AromaSys President Brad Owen said.

Maloof said the Palms spent only $3,200 on “teakwood” under a monthly lease arrangement.

Usually resorts spend some money on this kind of effort even before footing a bill for supply and delivery of the scent, Owen said. A property may want a customized scent developed, for example. But most important, scents should be tested with focus groups before getting spread through a building, Owen said.

The Palms didn’t use focus groups, Maloof said. Instead, the resort just chose from a variety of samples that were offered.

The scent itself is only part of the equation, Owen said. There’s also the question of how much of the scent to use, how strong it should be.

“You want to be able to hit a bell curve,” he says. “You’re not going to be able to please everyone all the time, but you want to get the majority of your customers to be able to walk in and have it be not overwhelming, but barely above the conscious level.”

In the case of Las Vegas casinos, the fragrances are often used to mask the odor of stale cigarette smoke or sweaty travelers, or “malodors” in scent marketing company lingo.

Unfortunately for the Palms, its teakwood apparently turned out to be a malodor too.
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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2010, 09:43:50 PM »

 Cry Laughing Cry Laughing Cry Laughing Cry Laughing

They should have left the scent to the professionals:  boss boss boss Burning Resistor Burning Resistor Burning Resistor  Crazy Crazy
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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2010, 09:49:18 PM »

 wtf?  wtf?  wtf?  Was the teak wood smell supposed to cover up the reeking smell of 8 bazillion cigarettes ?   Tiny Violin
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2010, 09:57:13 PM »

wtf?  wtf?  wtf?  Was the teak wood smell supposed to cover up the reeking smell of 8 bazillion cigarettes ?   Tiny Violin

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Okay, to be fair, not really. The large properties get rid of offensive odors by moving massive amounts of air through their casinos. Some can cycle their air every 10 minutes, which is amazing for a 50,000 to 100,000 square foot plus space.

What they were really trying to do was to give the place a subtle, but distinctive pleasant odor that guests would almost subconsciously associate with the property and which would make them want to stay longer and come back to stay there again.

Unfortunately, the suit who approved the memo forgot to include the word "pleasant" in the description.   loser face in palm
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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2010, 10:52:25 PM »

Personally I think Mandalay Bay and adjoining The Hotel has the best scent of them all. I think that's what keeps be going back there over and over again, unless the airline I'm taking goes on strike and my trip gets canceled  Cry Laughing Cry Laughing
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2010, 11:03:22 PM »

Great Story! K+
Someday someone will get a slot that was from The Palms and wonder; What is that smell?  rotflmao
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2010, 05:15:25 AM »

Anyone familiar with the 'scent' in the lobby at the Venetian, it's very strong. They were asking guests if they liked it or not on the comment cards in the room so not sure if they are still doing it. It got right into the back of your throat everytime you walked in, I voted no!
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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2010, 11:44:38 AM »

 Me, too! One of my machines has a funny smell...and I don't mean funny haha...   Scratch Head 3

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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2010, 01:27:05 PM »

One of my friends, says she couldn't imagine staying at the Ventian due to the smell thats everywhere, says it gives here a headache. I even stayed there on NYeve 2 yrs ago and never noticed it, so I chauked it up to her just being crazy  Scratch Head but I guess her nose wins out....
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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2010, 02:31:59 PM »

The stratosphere has an odd smell in the casino that I've never really liked. In the beginning, I chalked it up to the new carpeting or newly renovated decor, but after a few years, I came to the conclusion that it was a deliberate aromatherapy fragrance that I just happened to dislike.
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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2010, 08:26:38 AM »

MGM grand smells like a hair salon or landury cleaners, really bad sent. 

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« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2012, 09:10:38 PM »

Always wanted to know what scent was used for Circus Circus back in the day. Always liked the scent....
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« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2012, 01:06:08 AM »

Always wanted to know what scent was used for Circus Circus back in the day. Always liked the scent....


Without ever being there - I'd guess...uh...cotton candy?  arrow
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« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2012, 01:08:35 AM »

nope. Always thought it was a cleaner of some kind, but I always loved it....
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