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« Reply #100 on: July 30, 2010, 11:23:59 PM »
I would imagine the percent payout would be decided by the number of symbols just like a mechanical slot. Since it is a skill stop you would not want high paying symbols like Wilds and 7's near each other. Spread them out to make it harder. To increase the payout just add more larger payout symbols (wilds & 7's) in place of the smaller symbols (bars & cherries).

Is this how it is done Marty?
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« Reply #101 on: July 31, 2010, 12:08:36 AM »
Obviously the placement and number of winning combinations influences hit frequency and payout amounts.
For example, a high payout redemption game (800-1200%) has many more winning combos than an 80% charity game.
The redemption game pays on a single symbol selection in the high percentage version, tough to lose!
The redemption games takes in quarters and pays out pennies (or fractions thereof), determined by the arcade operator.
Charity games are basically dollar for dollar, if the vend price is .25 the win points are valued at .25 as well.
Make sense?
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« Reply #102 on: July 31, 2010, 12:17:58 AM »
Quote from: marty19067 on July 31, 2010, 12:08:36 AM
Obviously the placement and number of winning combinations influences hit frequency and payout amounts.
For example, a high payout redemption game (800-1200%) has many more winning combos than an 80% charity game.
The redemption game pays on a single symbol selection in the high percentage version, tough to lose!
The redemption games takes in quarters and pays out pennies (or fractions thereof), determined by the arcade operator.
Charity games are basically dollar for dollar, if the vend price is .25 the win points are valued at .25 as well.
Make sense?
Yes, thanks.  yes
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« Reply #103 on: July 31, 2010, 12:25:12 AM »
Not all that difficult to understand if explained properly.
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« Reply #104 on: July 31, 2010, 10:44:58 AM »
I imagine that speed of the spinning reesl also has a lot to do with the payout.
Spin them slowly and you can see the symbols, spin them faster to become a blur and you cant see what your stopping.

Than it truly is just dumb luck...
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« Reply #105 on: July 31, 2010, 11:43:06 AM »
Neon,

I agree with that assessment, at 60 RPM or less the games is too easy, at 300 rpm, good luck!
The symbols are fixed (11 per reel), they are approximately 3" (they are good sized), you can distinguish patterns and some key on the music to determine time of selection. That being said, the normal spin is the same as a traditional slot (usually 90 RPM), they have the capability to spin approximately 300 rpm. On a charity game that is a big difference, on a high percentage payout NJ redemption game, it makes little difference since most everyone wins something.
 
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« Reply #106 on: July 31, 2010, 12:27:14 PM »
What is the chance that there could be an affordable conversion kit available to slot owners for home use?
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« Reply #107 on: July 31, 2010, 12:46:43 PM »
uniman,

email me off the forum or call and I will give you some options
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« Reply #108 on: July 31, 2010, 02:49:15 PM »
I want a glass/game/eprom kit !  yes
PM me with details and pricing, please.


Two extra reels in the top box?  Fantastic!!!  applause applause

Uh...I'm repeating my post#61 you may of missed earlier perhaps?...lol
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« Reply #109 on: July 31, 2010, 03:25:32 PM »
stayouttadabunker,

Thanks for the kudos!
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« Reply #110 on: July 31, 2010, 04:47:28 PM »
Quote from: marty19067 on July 31, 2010, 12:46:43 PM
uniman,

email me off the forum or call and I will give you some options

Actually I was asking on behalf of other members here who are salivating for a chance to get one of these.  excessive drool

I currently own only Universal slots, no Bally's or IGT's.
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« Reply #111 on: July 31, 2010, 06:10:38 PM »
Understood, lets do a quick run through the conversion process.

First, MPU is modified, 54 pin processor removed and socket installed, new battery, excess chips removed including U12 & U15.
Piggyback board installed with SSB2000 PCB (proprietary, I will look for a picture to post), new U12 & U15, new chip for optical coin board. 
Next, harness installed from backplane to top cabinet to power reels & other to door panel button switch.
Custom bracket installed in top box to align reels & anchor (design for 5500), (2) standard reel brackets modified to fit new bracket.
Change belly, paytable graphics, hot dogs, single line reel glass, reel strips, new button inserts.
RAM clear, ready to play!

Parts required:
Modified MPU
SSB 2000 PCB w/chips
U12 & U15
(1) Top reel mount, (2) modified reel brackets, (2) reel assemblies w/drivers
(2) harnesses w/molex connectors and stakeons
(5) reel strips (in house print & cut or commercial supply), belly & award graphics (translucent prints between precut plexi) or glass (Sunkist).

Needless to say, what you need or want and level of expertise affects cost.
Does the explanation make sense and have I explained it clearly?
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« Reply #112 on: July 31, 2010, 07:13:25 PM »
General question for help:

Any preferred or best method to upload pictures?
Attach file, resize to?, or copy & paste?
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« Reply #113 on: July 31, 2010, 07:21:06 PM »
Cancel that request, went to Welcome Wagon & got the info!
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« Reply #114 on: July 31, 2010, 07:45:13 PM »
Picture of modified 5500 MPU and 40 pin socket installed (previously said 54 - thast was wrong!)
Next post is SSB 2000 piggyback board

* 5500 MPU resized.jpg (271.58 KB, 800x600 - viewed 372 times.)

* 40 Pin Processor Socket resized.jpg (193.14 KB, 800x600 - viewed 359 times.)
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« Reply #115 on: July 31, 2010, 07:47:04 PM »
Picture of SSB 2000 PCB front & back

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* SSB 2000 Backside resized.jpg (268.91 KB, 800x600 - viewed 365 times.)
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« Reply #116 on: July 31, 2010, 09:52:25 PM »
Wow-   This thread got so long I'll need another week off just to read it!
 rotflmao
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« Reply #117 on: August 01, 2010, 12:19:48 AM »
Thanks for posting the pictures, really nice. However the members here may drop dead when they see the prices..............LOL
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« Reply #118 on: August 01, 2010, 01:09:40 AM »
The game retails for $3500.00
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« Reply #119 on: August 01, 2010, 02:46:15 AM »
Hey marty!
Thanks for getting in touch with me!  applause
I am excited to see one of these in working operation in person! yes
I will probably never ever own one but the whole thing is a nice idea.
I hope you do well with it with the richer people! lol
However, just because I work in the biz doesn't mean I make that kind of money.... bawling hissy fit
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« Reply #120 on: August 01, 2010, 02:49:18 AM »
I think it's a really nice concept that will be a money maker for a lot of businesses
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« Reply #121 on: August 01, 2010, 12:44:39 PM »
Mark,

Bear in mind this is a game that people use to generate profits in an arcade setting unlike a used Pachislo or obsolete slot.
Glass and reel strips from Sunkist alone are in the $300.00 range and the PCB manufacture and assembly is pricey in small quantities.
If the game had a commercial casino application in would start with a newly manufactured platform in the 12-15K range.
I will answer your email separately when I have a little more time.
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« Reply #122 on: August 01, 2010, 01:01:17 PM »
Oh...I never ordered strips from a graphics printer place...lol
I think that would be way too expensive!!!  Weird Eyes Scratch Head 3
Remember, this is New Life Games - most of here just buy old, used junky
machines and fix them up/restore them to factory-like or better conditions!

Anyways, thank you so much for the explanation of this machine! applause yes
Your mods for a Bally 5500 are pretty cool!  yes
However, there's no way in the world I could pay that much for a mod.  rotflmao

I'm just a guy with a few machines to fool around with...
My intentions are just to have something to play with while I'm on coffee break...lol
Guess I better see if the big bosses want one! lol  stir the pot / get cooking
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